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post Aug 25 2010, 12:44 PM

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tq ts for sharing....
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post Aug 25 2010, 01:15 PM

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which area usually have huge hui population?


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post Aug 25 2010, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(kenmirzz @ Aug 25 2010, 03:12 PM)

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QUOTE(kenmirzz @ Aug 25 2010, 05:11 PM)

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damn nice tea.... where can i get this tea... wat the other ingredient(in malay please) coz my house only have the red thing look like plum seed.... i dunno what its called coz my mum call it in chinese language....
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post Aug 26 2010, 03:24 AM

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QUOTE(kenmirzz @ Aug 25 2010, 06:01 PM)
They have those Arabic names too, but their Chinese names are publicized worldwide. Moreover, they made it like a short form, abbreviated from "Muhammad" to "Ma", From "Hassan" to "Han", etc. Therefore, when you are in China, 9/10 with the surname "Ma" are Muslims. Also, the surname "Guo" usually are Muslims too.

One more thing, they are not Arabs, thus, why should they be Arabicized?
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many non muslim dunno that u can use any name as long as it have good meaning... some of the name used in islam are not arabic like farsi name, yehudi name... name used usually comes from good people and in hope that the child will be like them too

btw good effort..... damn these ppl are nice, look at the bread and tea they serve to their guest.... y dont malaysia export these people in last time? after all, they have one big common thing with the malay which is the religion....
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post Aug 26 2010, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Aug 26 2010, 11:24 AM)
Utsul Hainan
The Utsuls are a tiny ethnic group which lives on the Chinese island of Hainan. They are thought to be descendants of Cham refugees who fled their homeland in what is now southern Vietnam to escape from Annamese invasion.

While most of the Chams who fled Champa went to neighbouring Cambodia, a small business class fled northwards. How they came to acquire the name Utsul is unknown.

Although they are culturally distinct from their neighbours, the Chinese government places them as members of the Hui nationality. They are speakers of the Tsat language.
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many say they are(champa malay) from indonesia.... is that true?

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post Aug 26 2010, 11:56 AM

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are there hui in malaysia?
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post Aug 26 2010, 05:00 PM

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post Aug 26 2010, 10:20 PM

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sad.gif too bad.... would b great if any place in malaysia have a muslim chinese community like the hui....
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post Aug 28 2010, 05:48 PM

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nice.... will be watching the vids when im at home
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post Aug 30 2010, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(abu_adi @ Aug 30 2010, 10:01 AM)
wow...Muslims in China way outnumbered Malais muslim in Msia...

probably thats one of the reason TGNA imported Chinese imams to lead prayer in Kelantan during terawih season..to dispel the myth that Malais = Islam, Islam = Malais, etc...
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i glad u see it that way, not the wasting tax money thing...... heck sometimes mosque in my kampung import imam outside malaysia during ramadhan.... can listen to diff kiraat n help other muslim economy too thumbup.gif
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post Aug 30 2010, 04:54 PM

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thank ts.... we need more hui
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post Sep 28 2010, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(annariana @ Sep 28 2010, 10:26 AM)
@kenmirzz

Thank you for opening this highly informational thread. /k/ really should have more of these kind of threads coming.. smile.gif

I had a chinese boyfriend. We got off really seriously until one day the cowardness in him showed up, and he ditched me because he's scared he'll get thrown off from his family. So what I can synthesise here is, malaysian chinese see islam as a monoracial religion, not a universal religion in malaysia. Yes they don't deny the fact there are chinese muslims in china, but the argument will revolve around 'hey this is malaysia not china so keep the fact away'.

islam's way of life is also a cause. My ex favors pork, it's like the chinese' staple diet, even 肉 in china refers to pork, eventhough literally it means meat. He also confessed he's lazy to pray etc, lots of religious obligation.. Well I can conclude that another negative factor of islam towards the chinese is the rules. Well it is, when they did not see it as smth we do to the Almighty.

The biggest negative-factor is the family and friends. My ex used to imagine his family members mocking him wearing songkok, praying etc, and he doesn't want to be mocked that way. He also used to imagine himself being disowned as a son, and he hates that thought. So social reasons are an important factor distinguishing malaysian chinese and china chinese when it comes to islam.

I'm a malay, so pardon and correct me if I said any facts wrong. Kudos to kenmirzz and other contributors, thanks for bringing in a change in /k/ smile.gif
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thank you sister for your telling us your story. i have a sister, and currently dating a chinese non muslim guy which i dont mind as long as she know her limit and he knows his limit. hope he is interested to the deen and can accept it.
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is there any of them in malaysia... i think the gov shud promote them.... like maybe take them in as student or something(xchange student)
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QUOTE(kqtan1966 @ May 23 2011, 08:57 PM)
they are here in Msia....the hui muslims and the chinese Msia muslims are look alike...you can't tell which is which...
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hui r chinese( their grandgrandparent comes from china) but not all chinese r hui....
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Jan 21 2012, 04:27 PM)
The Hui are not genetically Han Chinese. They have middle east ancestry. They are not the same as Han Chinese.
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same la..... diffrnt religion, thus cultural abit different, so called hui.... han, hui.... see only tweak name abit

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