abit Fatal1ty AN8 for AMD 64bit, Overclocking ability...
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 Oct 1 2005, 12:49 AM
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498 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Ipoh, Perak 
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Or perhaps they could Q-OTES the Radeon chipset and maybe link it to the PWM heatsink.
I'm sure Asus will come out with a kickass CrossFire mobo with linked SB, NB and PWM heatsink. Linked as in heatpipes linking all there heatsinks. Check out their latest A8N32-SLI Deluxe 16x SLI mobo with linked heatpipes.  |
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Oct 1 2005, 01:00 AM
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1,372 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sydney - Australia 
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imo the chipset still should be actively cooled..
it gets pretty hot |
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 Oct 1 2005, 07:17 AM
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Elite
2,520 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sibu 
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Oct 1 2005, 12:49 AM) Or perhaps they could Q-OTES the Radeon chipset and maybe link it to the PWM heatsink. You are right... as shown on ABIT AT8 Picture i post on previous page. The ABIT Crossfire board... its Ati NorthBridge heatsink link to PWM heatsink... with L Shape Heatpipe... What Makes ABIT AT8 Crossfire difference from other brand.... its the SouthBridge.... ABIT go with ULi 1575 - Cheaper and Cost Effective SouthBridge - Links to ATI Crossfire NorthBridge via 4 PCI Express Lane..... working at 1Gbps  - Integrated SATA 2 - Better USB 2.0 Throughput compared to ATI SB450/400  |
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Oct 1 2005, 08:20 AM
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3,277 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: Penang 
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one thing about abit is that they tend to squeeze a lot on their board, and leaving the ports and odd places
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Oct 1 2005, 11:42 AM
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675 posts Joined: Jan 2005
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noob question.. what is Uli chipset ?? izzit stable ?? i hav read in someware on net that this chipset has one version that accept either pci-e or agp... izzit true ??
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Oct 1 2005, 12:07 PM
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676 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Ipoh / Melaka
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ULi formerly known as ALi chipset... U should had heard it during P3 days...
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Oct 1 2005, 04:31 PM
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3,277 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: Penang
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@kev_neville
agreed with u, now ULi is the new name, ALi chipsets are the old names, I still have a mobo with ALi chipset |
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Oct 1 2005, 04:33 PM
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675 posts Joined: Jan 2005
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ALi pulak ?? what i know only via, ati, nvidia, and sis .. realy noob about this
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Oct 1 2005, 04:44 PM
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2,068 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Ipoh / Penang / PJ
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Normally, if you started your computers way back in the Pentium 133MHz onwards, you would have heard of ALi chipsets. It is part of Acer last time and most of the time, ALi chipsets are items that you should avoid at all costs. It was highly unstable and most of the times, you get hangs with those machines.
At the end, I stayed with Intel chipsets for stability such as Asus P2B mobo, in which it is so stable I never had to reformat my Win98 machine for two years!! Yes, at that time, Intel chipsets were the most dominant in terms of stability and performance. Nothing from AMD nor Cyrix could come close. How the world has turned around nowadays. Anyway, it seems that some motherboards incorporate ULI chipsets as they are very feature rich and quite stable nowadays. We'll get to know more of it when more ppl in LYN buys their Crossfire boards with ULI southbridges. |
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Oct 1 2005, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 1 2005, 04:44 PM) Normally, if you started your computers way back in the Pentium 133MHz onwards, you would have heard of ALi chipsets. It is part of Acer last time and most of the time, ALi chipsets are items that you should avoid at all costs. It was highly unstable and most of the times, you get hangs with those machines. OIC... thank for ur info.. At the end, I stayed with Intel chipsets for stability such as Asus P2B mobo, in which it is so stable I never had to reformat my Win98 machine for two years!! Yes, at that time, Intel chipsets were the most dominant in terms of stability and performance. Nothing from AMD nor Cyrix could come close. How the world has turned around nowadays. Anyway, it seems that some motherboards incorporate ULI chipsets as they are very feature rich and quite stable nowadays. We'll get to know more of it when more ppl in LYN buys their Crossfire boards with ULI southbridges. |
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Oct 1 2005, 05:25 PM
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1,372 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sydney - Australia
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QUOTE(tictac @ Oct 1 2005, 07:17 AM) You are right... as shown on ABIT AT8 Picture i post on previous page. hmm i thought ATI insisted that all boards use their SB?The ABIT Crossfire board... its Ati NorthBridge heatsink link to PWM heatsink... with L Shape Heatpipe... What Makes ABIT AT8 Crossfire difference from other brand.... its the SouthBridge.... ABIT go with ULi 1575 - Cheaper and Cost Effective SouthBridge - Links to ATI Crossfire NorthBridge via 4 PCI Express Lane..... working at 1Gbps - Integrated SATA 2 - Better USB 2.0 Throughput compared to ATI SB450/400 anyway looking @ the design they went a different direction than the ATI reference design.. most probably because of uGuru as well TBH i prefer the reference design.. we'll see which is better when both products are on the market  @ tictac.. any info on bios options? |
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Oct 1 2005, 10:03 PM
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3,277 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: Penang
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I think no judments should be made until all the Crossfire boards are tested by reliable sources, but we still have the right to comment, and dun flame each another
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Oct 2 2005, 07:19 AM
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Elite
2,520 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sibu
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Oct 1 2005, 11:42 AM) noob question.. what is Uli chipset ?? izzit stable ?? i hav read in someware on net that this chipset has one version that accept either pci-e or agp... izzit true ?? ada lagi satu chipset ULi.... Uli 1695 (northbridge)... yang best dgn chip ni sebab dia....- support 2 x 8lane PCI Express lane jadi setaraf dengan northbridge crossfire.... ULi pun dah cakap kalau Chipset dia yg 1695 ni bley support crossfire.... cuma tunggu lampu hijau dari ATI jek... sebab driver crossfire ATI yg buat... - pastu dia connect ke bridge lain(southbridge) dengan teknologi Hypertransport juga 16bit downlink & 16bit up kalau x salah sama cepat dengan dia proses data ke main processor 16bit up & 16bit down  Kalau M1695 ni dia Pair ngan M1567 M1567 ni support AGP8x... so ni le Kombinasi chipset pertama yang bley pakai 3 vga sekali gus... 1 x 8lane pci express 1 x 8lane pci express 1 x AGP 8x  Aku ada gak kasi suggestion kat Abit ttg board ULi 1695 ni... tapi diaorang cam tunggu dan liat jek...sbb chipset baru... tak bape org tau lagi... lagi pun Southbridge yg support hyper transport diaorang belum matang lagi... tunggu generasi seterusnya yang akan integrated SATA 2.... baru kita main ULi1695 Rasanya dah ada review dah ref board ULi 1695... kick HTT in no time Babyelf... No info regarding AT8 bios... yup it is using ULi 1575 southbridge |
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Oct 2 2005, 07:36 AM
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Elite
2,520 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sibu
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Wadieq ni le prototype ULi 1695 aku... tapi ada kesalahan besar kat aku wat ni... ada ke aku link Nortbridge dia ke southbridge dia pakai 1575.... sedangkan Northbridge dia leh support Hypertransport ... langsung kena reject.... tak sempat nak revised balik
QUOTE Overclocking Option Vcore Option : Default voltage up to 2.0V (at 0.025v increasement) DDR Voltage : 2.50V up to 4.00V (at 0.05V increasement) DDR VTT : 1.25V up to 2.00V (at 0.05V increasement) HT/LDT Voltage : 1.20V up to 1.50V (at 0.10V increasement) HTT : 200MHz - 500MHz Memory Timing Option Dram Timing Low : Function#2 Offset#88h ; CAS Latency ; Row Cycle Time ; Row Refresh Cycle Time ; RAS to CAS Delay ; RAS to RAS Delay ; Min Ras Active Time ; Row Precharge Time ; Write Recovery time Dram Timing High : Function#2 Offset#8Ch ; Write to read delay ; Read to write Delay ; Refresh rate ; Write CAS Latency Dram Configuration low : Function#2 Offset#90h ; Dimm Drive Strength ; Read/Write Qued Bypass ; Bypass Max Dram Configuration high : Function#2 Offset#94h ; Maximum Async Latency ; Read Preamble ; Idle Cycle Limit ; Dynamic idle cycle counter enable ; 2 additional Memory dividers [150MHz/DDR300] & [183MHz/DDR366] Dram Delay Line Register : Function#2 Offset#98h ; DQS Slew Value ; DQS Slew Control Audio (7.1 Channel 24bit High Definition) ; Add on PCI card ; Audio Chip : VIA Vinyl Envy 24HT ; DAC : Wolfson WM8770 24bit 192khz codec with an 8 channel DAC and 2 channel ADC inside ; Caps : Rubycon / Sanyo Oscon SouthBridge : ULi 1575 (PCI Express 4x connection to NorthBridge) <---big mistake... my bad  ; 4 x Serial ATA II 3Gb/s (with NCQ Support) ; 2 x ATA-133 with RAID 1, 0, 0+1, 5 , JBOD support ; 8 x USB 2.0 ; 1/10/100 Mbps Fast Ethernet  |
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Oct 2 2005, 01:50 PM
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498 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Ipoh, Perak
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I've read that the ATI SB has some bugs already and some manufacturers find better stability using ULI SB. However, I'm not sure if ATI will allow manufacturers using ULI NB to make CrossFire boards as I doubt ATI will give Crossfire certification to the mobo that uses only ULI chipsets.
Anywayss, I think we better start a new thread for ABIT CrossFire discussion. P/S: Tictac, your prototype looks great but remember that R520 is a freaking huge & long graphics card. Installing a R520 on the 2nd PCI-E slot will block the SATA and USB headers. And its a very bad location for the Floppy connector. I also think if the heatpipe will operate properly as the heatpipe has to be slightly longer to operate efficiently. |
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Oct 7 2005, 11:20 PM
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675 posts Joined: Jan 2005
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QUOTE(tictac @ Oct 2 2005, 07:19 AM) ada lagi satu chipset ULi.... Uli 1695 (northbridge)... yang best dgn chip ni sebab dia.... - support 2 x 8lane PCI Express lane jadi setaraf dengan northbridge crossfire.... ULi pun dah cakap kalau Chipset dia yg 1695 ni bley support crossfire.... cuma tunggu lampu hijau dari ATI jek... sebab driver crossfire ATI yg buat... - pastu dia connect ke bridge lain(southbridge) dengan teknologi Hypertransport juga 16bit downlink & 16bit up kalau x salah sama cepat dengan dia proses data ke main processor 16bit up & 16bit down Kalau M1695 ni dia Pair ngan M1567 M1567 ni support AGP8x... so ni le Kombinasi chipset pertama yang bley pakai 3 vga sekali gus... 1 x 8lane pci express 1 x 8lane pci express 1 x AGP 8x Aku ada gak kasi suggestion kat Abit ttg board ULi 1695 ni... tapi diaorang cam tunggu dan liat jek...sbb chipset baru... tak bape org tau lagi... lagi pun Southbridge yg support hyper transport diaorang belum matang lagi... tunggu generasi seterusnya yang akan integrated SATA 2.... baru kita main ULi1695 Rasanya dah ada review dah ref board ULi 1695... kick HTT in no time Babyelf... No info regarding AT8 bios... yup it is using ULi 1575 southbridge QUOTE(tictac @ Oct 2 2005, 07:36 AM) Wadieq ni le prototype ULi 1695 aku... tapi ada kesalahan besar kat aku wat ni... ada ke aku link Nortbridge dia ke southbridge dia pakai 1575.... sedangkan Northbridge dia leh support Hypertransport ... langsung kena reject.... tak sempat nak revised balik lama x masuk dah byk rupanya... thank for ur info tictac.. oh ya.. now i hav one new abit AN8 ultra with me.. if u interest .. u i can sold it to u.. *anyone hav try new abit an8 bios ?? just share here |
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Oct 8 2005, 04:27 PM
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201 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Malaysia 
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anyone can suggest the timing , multiplier and htt for my fatal1ty a8n sli and amd athlon 64 3200+ venice ... i'm try overclock the max is 2250mhz... anyone can help me...
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Oct 8 2005, 06:17 PM
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6,562 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kuala Lumpur
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i was maxed out at 240* 10 with 1:1.2 divider giving 200Mhz ram speed...
I used the X2 3800... amazingly, I managed to go up to 2.70 Ghz - 270*10, 225mhz ram speed on my new ASUS Premium board... same chips, same rams, different boards... it could certainly be the board |
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Oct 8 2005, 06:39 PM
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VIP
2,068 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Ipoh / Penang / PJ
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Not sure why you only maxed out at 240 as I managed to get 253 * 10.5 on this board.
Anyway, on the cpu end, that's quite a gem you have there. What voltage you engaged to get 2.8ghz and is it watercooled? QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Oct 8 2005, 06:17 PM) i was maxed out at 240* 10 with 1:1.2 divider giving 200Mhz ram speed... I used the X2 3800... amazingly, I managed to go up to 2.70 Ghz - 270*10, 225mhz ram speed on my new ASUS Premium board... same chips, same rams, different boards... it could certainly be the board |
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Oct 8 2005, 07:59 PM
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201 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Malaysia
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jarofclay can u show how to setting the dram timing... at bios.... and the multiplier for cpu??? when i reach ti 230x10 my pc will restart.. i'm icing use OC guru..... anyway u can give ur suggestion or way to solve this prob..
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