if at the end of this year, then maybe u just hold thinking what hardware u gonna buy.. coz maybe at that time ATi crossfire card & board will be widely available in lowyat

u dont have to be a fan.. just buy any product that can perform better~

Like Pccrazy said before, DFI board is already optimized for high performance ram so they can run to their max.. As a result, el cheapo ram aka value ram cant handle the stress resulting instability..



This post has been edited by irenic: Sep 12 2005, 10:58 AM

With my current Abit : If my oc not stable, it will shut down during win xp loading. but after that i still manage to switch on my pc normally without has to reset cmos.

With my previous DFI SLI D : It will shut down or wont boot at all. then i have to press & hold Delete button while switch on my pc. Dun have to reset cmos also.

I admit that i do miss DFI board, due to its performance.. But this Abit is a better board for me coz it has balance between stability and performance Less headache~!!

is this board good & stable for amd x2 processor?

i think we shouldnt talk about DFI / Asus / MSI etc.. in this forum. Just talk about Abit ok. It's sick when people keep comparing this board with DFI. Esp in overclocking. Every overclockers on this earth know DFI is the best. But how many among them are only use their pc for overclocking?

Dont forget that DFI also have cold boot problem, 4 leds of death, etc.. If u never experience it, u will keep saying DFI is the best. I was the same, until that problem occured. It was so sucky coz i need up to 2hrs to switch on my pc. If u do browsing, quite a lot people experienced it.. and most of them decided to try other board like Abit or Asus.

& dont forget that DFI is among the 1st mobo to have all those settings in bios. before this all of us use windows based software to tweak & oc more..

To make all DFI fan happy, once again i stress that DFI is the best board for overclocking.. No other board can get near DFI in it. but DFI is not the best in stability.

However, let say if u must choose one problem for ur mobo, which one u prefer?.. Lost the otes fan setting or have difficulty to switch on ur pc every time u shut down it?

My conclusion is all board have its pros n cons. Choose the best for u. Like me, this Abit isnt so great for my superb Sandy so that is one the reason i wanna sell the sandy and get the X2.. stimes i think to buy DFI again but when i remember back those 4 leds of death.. i feel phobia hahah

thats why my question was "is this board Good & Stable for amd64 x2?"

i did browse around and i can find both positive & negative results. It just not happen to Abit an8 but also to DFI mobo. I think if i not overclock this x2, abit mobo will run great .. what do u think?

This post has been edited by irenic: Sep 19 2005, 03:53 PM

i am using abit an8 sli

if u want to know the story, here it goes.. last time i was a very happy n proud owner of DFI lanparty SLI D. It was a great board, combined with my san diego + OCZ rev2 tccd, i can say it was really really rocks!
then a few months later, somewhere in July, the cold boot problem started to occur. Thx god that there was so easy to seek for help with this board, since most of the top forums all over the world were discussing bout this board. I manage to overcome the problem whenever it occured. I was happy until the cold boot problem occured again but was more serious than usual. This time all the 4 leds were blinking. I browsed the XS forum and managed to find a way on how to solve the problem, called the 4 Led's of death..
I followed their suggestion but normally i can only boot my pc after an hour. stimes it took more than 1 hr. I started to feel sick.. Then one morning when i was in rush to finish my assignment, my pc (i stayed in hostel, so ol 24/7) quite laggy due to many applications in background. so i restarted it. But somehow i accidentally clicked on the shut down button. Then i cant get my pc on for almost one day
The next day, i found myself in Alphamatic systems in puchong to claim a new board ( luckily DFI gives 1 to 1 warranty ) . back to my place, i manage to switch on my pc without any problem and then i live happily ever after..
opps it still not the end yet.. then at the evening, the problem occured again! I feel fed up so the next day i changed to a new board again n straight away put it on sale in garage sell ( i sold a new one, and not the one that has the 4 leds of death )
Then i used my intel rig coz at that time i was so stupid to think that i can wait for crossfire board haha.. but after a week or two, i decided to buy this abit an8 series.. and since then i yet to miss my assignment anymore

that is my story. Mixed experienced with a board named DFI lanparty SLI D

Like old folks say, biar lambat asal selamat.. cant oc kaw kaw is ok, as long as i my pc wont have problem in such a critical time~

p/s - sorry for a long & boring essay. I'm not so good in writing

This post has been edited by irenic: Sep 19 2005, 05:01 PM

there is thing we can compromise n there is thing we cant.. When i decided to sell my DFI, i know i wont find any other great overclocking board like DFI. Then i choose abit due to no major problem with that board. I think that's a compromise. I lose speed for stability. I choose what is best for me, not for others. As a student who enjoys overclocking, but in the same time use the same pc for works n games, I need a very stable mobo with can do respectable clockspeed. This is what Abit manage to offers me. If u see my 3dmark records, and my highest bootable clockspeed for my sandy, i manage to break my own record set by DFI with this <quite crap in oc?> Abit Fatal1ty An8 SLI...

It's not just me, but everyone will be happy if the mobo never ever give them any single problem. Or u like to have problem ?
and fyi, i never used my stuffs (except harddisk & psu) more than 6 months
so i cant imagine to use a mobo for 3 yrs haha. I'm happy to change to new stuffs, coz i can start all over again.. learning sthing new everyday...

i read in the internet and most of them are using bios 17.. looks ok with some minor problem..
Gigabyte? i need good stable board with quite a good oc ability. I think Abit has the balance between these two..
It would be great if DFI & Abit engineers can combine together to produce a new motherboard.. But it will never happen..

2nd attempt.. pic attached::

240htt, 1.4vcore (bios), 1:1, 4x ldt

using bios 17.

my 1st attempt was 2.4ghz @ 1.35vcore (bios) but the 2nd core failed after 2hrs 32mins..



This post has been edited by irenic: Sep 19 2005, 08:33 PM

i was also a DFI lanparty nf4 sli D user.. now using Abit fatality an8 sli & DFI lanparty 875pro B hehehe

yups.. i also cant find it yet..




want cant... buy can la hehe

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anyway 1st weird thing regarding this mobo + x2. after installing windows, sp2, nforce driver, the x2 run normally since it is at default setting. But after installing ATi 5.8 driver, i need to change the ram command rate to 2T even at 400mhz. I thought it must be driver issue, so i uninstalled it and then i can use 1T again. Then i installed catalyst 5.6 driver and yet, still the same. So now i have to run my ram at 2T

do u guys have any idea why this happen?

thx~

can i share with u guys some pics of my abit?





@aaron_lwm
i dont think it does effect stability.. all it does are just display info bout ur current clock & vcore, time, temp, plus the cmos reset n usb, firewire & audio connector

1) this one cost around RM590. for silver case, the price is RM640.
2) I'm very bad + lazy in hiding cables... i'll show the internal pic after this
3) Nope...

Regarding the stability of front panel, i dont think i have any experience to share coz i never oc using uguru.. i only use the panel for .... reset cmos


neway here is the pic.. very very messy hehe

no problem here

Both has pro n cons

the 1T only fix for some processor + ram combination. For me, it still 2T with my patriot while the Gskill tccd can do 1T. But this latest bios does improve my ram performance. now can do 1T up to 237. Last time only 220

just a quick test.

AMD64 x2 3800+ @ 305 x 8 = 2440mhz

3x LDT Multiplier

GSKILL TCCD 512x2 @ 2.5-4-3-10 @ 2.75vdimm @ 305mhz 1T

dram clock 400
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max can go into windows is 310mhz, but cant finished 3dmark03..

305 is so far so good


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maybe it was a few months ago.. i dunno.. but from my experienced, my patriot can go up to 27x 1:1 while my gskill tccd can go up to 310 1:1 .. both tested with bios 19.

i'm going to sell my abit fatal1ty an8 sli.. i've no choice.. so sad

nope. not bcoz of overclock. I manage to hit 255fsb with my patriot 2gb kit. I love this board bcoz of stability and still can oc... but i might have to sacrifice it to give way for other hardware

This post has been edited by irenic: Dec 20 2005, 10:34 PM