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post Sep 30 2010, 04:42 PM

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some one used it and please comments for it can play facebook games and can be download some files from rapidshare

thank you

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post Sep 30 2010, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(raoul @ Sep 30 2010, 06:02 PM)
I have tested it and confirmed can't play facebook games or support any flash webbrowsing as it does not support Flash 10.1.

Furthermore the Flash can't be installed due to chipset limitation.
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too bad no used for it cant support flash 10.1 i need to cancel my order wait for samsung will come out on next month

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post Sep 30 2010, 07:26 PM

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pdate 2: Just saw FreshGear’s write up on the Mi700. Nothing extensive, but they gave better photos of the device. Go check it out here at: http://freshgear.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/...powered-tablet/. Again, I am a bit skeptical with what they write since they are a gadget shop dealer. So, go there for the pics only (I am so bad tongue.gif )

Update: Steve Paine (Chippy of UMPC Portal and Carrypad) explained via e-mail that “I recognise it as the Camangi FM600 / Viewpad 7 and I think there’s an Indian version too.” No wonder it looked familiar. CSL rebranded the same device made else where. Anyway, the specs for the Camangi and Viewpad can be retrieved here: http://www.umpcportal.com/products/Camangi/FM600/ and http://www.umpcportal.com/products/Viewsonic/Viewpad%207/.

Check the actual product page from here.

CSL is a local Malaysian company who has in recent days garnered some headlines when it supported Fusion Garage’s controversy-laden JooJoo tablet early this year and later with its entry into cheap Android devices. Early this month, it announced its entry into the Android tablet, with its own version, called DroidPad. No, it has nothing to do with Motorola (and it shows). I took the opportunity this evening to visit one of the sales outlet which had a fully functioning demo unit of the product that is being sold for RM1,599 (no discount, at least from their retail outlet). That would be approximately USD500.

Just for your information, this is not a detailed review, since I only managed to spend 30 minutes in the outlet before feeling a bit uneasy, not giving the sales person a definite yes or no, in purchasing it. Nevertheless, thanks go to the outlet for giving me free rein on the DroidPad, to test everything that came to mind (I missed a few critical ones, as I will point out below).

Hardware:

This is a compact tablet at 7 inch (same as the Samsung Tab). It can definitely be held with one hand, although do not expect that hand to hold it for too long since it weighs half a kg. The size of the device makes it seem less bulky than it really is. The build itself feels solid, since it is lined with metal (aluminium? or a knock off material? I couldn’t tell). It feels sturdy enough that I am confident it won’t break after a fall. However, this is not a beauty to behold. It really does look ‘fat’, at half an inch (see picture compared to a 20cent coin). The unit was still wrapped in a thin plastic wrap (cheap way to prevent scratches I guess). I did not take note of the speakers, although I believe they are located at the sides.

Display:

The resolution is only at 800 by 480 (WVGA). The colours seem washed and not as vibrant as it should have been. This is one of the downsides of the DroidPad since they needed to cut cost from somewhere. However, the viewing angles were not that bad. You could still make out the images even at 30-45 degrees. Nevertheless, the display is of the capacitive variant (yay!) and I have to admit that it feels quite sensitive to the touch. Typing was a breeze and with ample room, I was typing away fairly quickly.

Interface and Feel:

The DroidPad uses stock Froyo, Android 2.2. The good news is: you can customize your own homescreen to your hearts content! The bad news is: CSL has put their horrible looking widgets at the side of the screen [update: this seems to be the same horrible widgets on Viewpad 7 and Camangi FM600]. The unit I was using had both the stock Launcher and Launcher Pro on it. I also found that the accelerometer did not kick into action when I rotated the screen to potrait (it seemed stuck on landscape) even though I toggled to auto-rotate in the settings. I find this is just poor implementation on CSL’s part; just slap some of their own icons to make it ‘theirs’. I am confident most users would just ditch the whole custom interface provided and run their own (ADWLauncher or Launcher Pro).

The transitions were smooth and there were no lag (not surprising since the DroidPad uses Qualcomm’s improved MSM7227 600Mhz CPU to power the device). Things just zip open. The only problem that I could detect was in some crazy input detections while using Google Maps (the pinch-to-zoom was doing the opposite of what we wanted). The screen also froze once (before it had to be ‘forced close’). I’ve seen this sort of behaviour only in the ROM flashing scene, when using an un-optimised ROM that has been freshly released. I suspect this is the problem for the DroidPad… poor development quality control. The importance is that this is merely software-related and not hardware; it can be fixed!

Applications:

According to the sales person, there is no Flash available for the unit. I tried downloading from the Market (yes, they have the Market available) but it did not show on it. Which brings me to the Market; it is available from the apps menu (but sorry, no paid apps).

I installed Linpack Benchmark to test out its score, and found that it performed relatively well for its CPU, at 7.258Mflops.

Games worked well too.

I tested out Aldiko on the device, and found it very usable as an e-reader (see the picture). Would I use this to read Kindle? Why not? The screen is as big as a paperback anyway, and from my normal reading angle and distance, the words and text seem clear enough to me. I also tested the GPS and found it very speedy (again using the wifi connection only); managed to get a lock on my location in Google Maps in a few seconds.

What about browsing? It is acceptable. It won’t beat the iPhone 4 and the latest Android devices (of course), but it is not slow either. The best thing is the screen size allows a full site to be viewed without zooming into its part (see Engadget’s homepage that fit nicely in landscape mode). Even at that size, the text on the website can be easily read off the screen (see screen for yourself). The sales person told me that the DroidPad comes bundled with MapKing and a free one year license (good for Malaysians!). I think this device can easily replace any Garmin standalone devices for the car.

Camera:

It is a paltry 3.0MP camera in the back and a VGA (I believe) in the front (top right hand, see picture above for the smaller front facing camera). It takes adequate pictures (which reminded me of the camera on my old HTC Dream). Don’t expect much from it. For simple photo taking, it is quite fast. Video was basic and low quality. Unfortunately, I should have downloaded Fring/Skype or Qik to test out the front facing camera also. But I forgot all about that.

Review Regrets:

Besides not testing the front facing camera, I did not test the phone functionalities also. What I was told is that calls can be made via a handset that will be supplied along with the tablet. You can also pair it up with a Bluetooth headset if you want. Oh, please do not trust what the website says about their battery usage… CSL products are known for their poor battery quality. [Update: 3240mah battery made from an unidentified ODM, Original Design Manufacturer, is really hard to validate, without formal testing] Really sad but true. I think it should last at least 6 hours of heavy usage. It should, but again this is mere speculation until I get my hands on an actual unit (if ever).

Conclusion:

Is the DroidPad worth the money, given that the screen is only adequate and has low resolution? Does the USD500 justify the 2 cameras, the GPS and phone functionalities? I think on the matter of hardware, it seems a good price to pay for those abilities that were non-existent on the iPad. But if you are looking for high-quality builds that you can show off to your friends, well, let me suggest that you just walk away from this one. DroidPad at the end of the day, may not be an iPad alternative, but it sure is a Tab alternative.

I suspect that the DroidPad would be popular among the developers and Android hardcore developers and users who would like to rebuild the ROM and fix all the software flaws that was inherent in CSL’s work. I am sure that there is just so many things that you can do on this device that were not possible in smaller phone screen sizes. On that hope, I think the Android fanboy would be more than willing to spend that money on something that is a much cheaper version of the Samsung Tab.

Or you can just wait a month or two for the price to go down another RM100-RM200 before buying it. At RM1,300, this device is a MUST buy, given that it really delivers the basic Android experience that we have come to love.

The device is already available locally in Malaysian stores. No word about international sales though.
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post Sep 30 2010, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(cwleong59 @ Sep 30 2010, 08:32 PM)
Just came back from Low Yat, There will be a roadshow on the Droidpad, ground floor main lobby starting on the 4th Oct for a week. Don't know this info from the sales rep in one of their outlet, is reliable or not.
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thank you your information

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post Oct 1 2010, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(raoul @ Sep 30 2010, 10:53 PM)
No Flash support is a big letdown BUT I'm sure someone out there can find other alternative exploit hack to get around it since the device already running on Froyo 2.2

The problem is this device is not owned or sold on a wide scale basis and thus will have limited developer user working on those hacks
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yes right no way can get hack software from other source no rooted tablet is useless can't be install like font and others flash support.

Anyone can root tablet please inform us we will do it >>>

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post Oct 5 2010, 01:19 PM

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Some one can root ? please tell how much cost ?
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post Oct 12 2010, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(fanatic_79 @ Oct 4 2010, 07:04 PM)
Hi guys, I am in lowyat now attending the csl droidpad promotions. I noticed that the tablet is quite fast even with the 600 megahertze speed. The contrast is not bad, to me,not sure about other. For 3g video call it is not supported but accoeding to one of the staff, we can used fringe to do video call. Anybody has purchased it,please confirm. Other than that, it just like normal android phone but with bigger screen. Thanks
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yes used fringo we can call video to other fringo or pay idd call


Added on October 12, 2010, 10:14 pm
QUOTE(anakrantau @ Oct 11 2010, 08:13 AM)
not fully support flash 10.1 because I cant browser normal youtube site.

anyone where manage to play flv file? what program should I use?
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demoplayer can be play flv files

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post Oct 14 2010, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(cwleong59 @ Oct 13 2010, 08:10 PM)
Never like using Mapking the map is outdated and always choose the wrong route for me. Don't know how much per year but if u don't update the map can use forever. I am using Papago only problem the screen is not full screen but usable, I love using it, never go lost with it. Maybe later they will come out with a proper full screen resolution for this device as the Samsung Galaxy Tab gain popularity.
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Yes mapking useless now cant run on my mi700 tablet better used papago but small screen
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post Oct 14 2010, 01:36 PM

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any one can be install flash player 10.1 please advise us.


Added on October 14, 2010, 7:22 pm
QUOTE(anakrantau @ Oct 14 2010, 08:45 AM)
why mapking useless?
I manage to use them right away after purchasing the MI700 at Sunway. I use mapking on the way back to my home at klang. Use the Way Point with voice guide and it did help the navigation way back to my house.
That is the 1s time I use android tablet and mapking. smile.gif
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yes compare with papago mapking map are so old some one road not exit at all ....

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post Oct 16 2010, 08:01 AM

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app2sd for csl mi700 tablet devices... anyone did it
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post Oct 29 2010, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(shark7 @ Oct 29 2010, 07:47 AM)
how to restart ? after transfer some file through usb.suddenly my mi700 stuck and .dunno how to restart.its just black screen.
i can pres the 4 buttons on the left,can feel the vibrations but nothing happen
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What you need to do
please let battery until flat after that charge again and restart could be run
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post Oct 29 2010, 10:45 PM

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my phone also some one call just hang and cant switch touch screen not working so no chooses open back cover putout battery and put it back ever thing ok i think i dont want to buy csl brand anymore this is last phone ever used
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post Oct 30 2010, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(shark7 @ Oct 29 2010, 11:06 PM)
a phone can easily open the back cover .btw i think not just csl,some nokia phone and se also if hang must open battery.

but this is a tablet. .
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I'm so suprise after open back cover csl (malaysia made) product using double sided tape to stick the cover make sure csl improved on malaysia product

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post Oct 30 2010, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(shark7 @ Oct 30 2010, 04:00 PM)
i manage to open up the back cover of csl,not fully,its like there something like glue in the microsd/sim card part,thats the only one i can't open..bit afraid of that .

btw i think my battery already dead,but still can't on the csl even if it charged,if i press the power on button,it will just vibrate but still blank/black on the screen.
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i already did mine used nice to taken out double side tape that easy just try it
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post Nov 1 2010, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(shark7 @ Oct 31 2010, 10:37 PM)
u mean the double tape is near at microsd/sim card slot?
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The hole cover to open it used nife

Don't open the screw were covered with round wrench logo sticker..
warrant are not valid you just want to taken out battery only

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post Nov 1 2010, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(shark7 @ Nov 1 2010, 08:17 AM)
update,i think its not the battery problem.

today i charge it,and turn on,got csl logo until there a menu to make the csl vibrate or unlock it
after than i can't do anything,i can't unlocked it, its like the screen could be the problem .

i can press the power button on the left for a few times(it will show the unlock scroll),then it went black again .im going to csl today to check.
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pls update what csl say ......

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post Nov 1 2010, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(shark7 @ Nov 1 2010, 09:06 PM)
tommorow .i already sent to csl today ,she said tommorow will get..luckily im in a good mood today .actuallly bad mood but don't hve the mood to scold ppl.she said all the phone memory data could lost,luckily i save some apps on sd card
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Ok good luck for you can be get within two day

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post Nov 2 2010, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(cwleong59 @ Nov 2 2010, 09:26 AM)
If there is problem either hardware or software where to your buyers send your china ipads to. Do they have a service center in Malaysia.
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that is good question for who selling china ipad
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post Nov 4 2010, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(shark7 @ Nov 3 2010, 11:36 PM)
already take the csl back

that person in charge tell me the battery was kong .so they change the battery..
but i doubt ..bcause i can still charge it .there's red colour on the left .its just the screen is blank. din;t have a chance to ask a lot,cause late for class
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Impossible new phone batter Kong that mean csl no quality control at all .this company is iso 9002 company
How to be happen ?
How we trust this product ?

My also happen like your phone what I do it pull out batter and restart will come back
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post Nov 4 2010, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(mono @ Nov 4 2010, 08:28 PM)
yup, that is true.
it's like most of the latest cheap handphone brand in Malaysia
that you have never heard before is OEM.
they just put their brand name only. easy, no R&D at all.
just spend their money on A&P budget.
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better not support it...

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