could u all tell me if is ABIT NF7-S v2.0 can support this CPU?

AMD MOBILE ATHLON 2600+ BARTON UNLOCKED MULTIPLIER
AXMA 2600FKT4C
AQYHA 0414XPAW

more information:


Athlon XP Mobile DTR Processor (Model 10) 1933 MHz
OPGA Organic Pin Grid Array 1.65 Volt max. Temp. 90°C
512 KB L2 Cache 266 MHz Systembus (133 MHz FSB) x 14.5


any reliable information i'll got later via this thread, i'll be thankful for u.

thanks mr_47.

but recently I have tested the abit nf7-s v2.0 mainboard I bought from someone yesterday. After i tested the mainboard but it has a problem

the mainboard problem is.. after save the bios setting and then i turn the power off, then disconnect power supply cord from the powerpoint, the mainboard can't recall the saved setting so i have to setting manually before i boot into windows

strangely if i shutdown the computer but let the computer get power from powersupply that feeded by continuous power line from the powerpoint, it can recall the setting when i turn on the computer afterward.

i mean, if the computer was fully disconnected from an electric source, then plug the power supply cord to the powerpoint, the BIOS can't recall setting I saved earlier. Instead it reverts to default setting. the case was not happen if the power supply get continuous electric flow from the powerpoint and the windows OS already shutdown.

i have to press the DEL button everytime i turn on the computer in order to select my desired BIOS setting.

then i save the bios setting and proceed to windows loading.

i hate to reenter my preferred bios setting, including reenter the actual date and time.

i actually want to save the bios setting forever.

anyone know what problem i stumbled here?

any solution?

i was so sad because i bought it yesterday but was not in total good condition, however, yes it can boot into windows normally.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION:

i updated the bios to official ABIT's bios rev. 27. but unable to resolve the 'BIOS save ' problem.

the previous owner use bios rev 26 (mantarays) if i am not mistaken.

CPU: AMD Thunderbird 1.333 Ghz unlocked version (133 MHz fsb)

RAM: Kingston 512 MB DDR266 (PC2100) CL2.5 double sided ram module

GRAPHIC CARD: ATI RADEON 9600 pro 128 mb

OS: windows XP pro SP2

UPDATED!!!

i already changed the CMOS battery and reset the BIOS.

however the real culprit of the problem was i misplaced the power sw polarity on the front panel switches (FPI01). after i rotated the actual position, i can save the desired bios setting as usual (make the setting keep intact) - wrong statement, i am sorry ya

i read the manual carefully. it stated that..

WARNING: Turn the power off first (including the +5V standby power) before clearing the CMOS memory. Failing to do so may cause the system to work abnormally or malfunction.



oh ya Mr_47, i know mantarays is a great BIOS for this mainboard

i have reverted back to the mantarays from the official abit's BIOS revision 27 in order to test if i still able to save bios normally

i'll OC after upgrade my CPU, RAM and power supply in the near future (that my plan)

This post has been edited by coolblade: Jun 30 2006, 12:21 AM

mr_47, thanks for ur suggestion.

however i think the wrong polarity of power sw on the front panel switches is contributing to the failure of save bios permanently.

i updated my previous post regard to the matter.

i'll ask u for anything related to the NF7-S v2.0 thingy later. seems that u are expert already about this mobo.

i am not sure about this, how to get the advanced menu of the BIOS?

such as to select the command rate 1T or 2T, tRAS and much more..

thanks u for ur info

i have an unlocked barton 2500+ (1.8 GHz). I used nf7-s v2.0 mainboard.

I have tried to increase the vcore a bit, from the default 1.65 v to 1.75 v in order to bump my cpu clock to 2.0 - 2.2 GHz. It booted into windows normally.

I understand that overvolt the barton for long period can shorten the cpu's life.

However, what is the safe overvolt for this barton cpu?

I planned to use a pair of DDR400 RAM in near future so that i can overclock my barton into 3200+ (200 x 11).

Is it assumed safe to increase the default vcore to 1.8 v permanently?

your share of experience I'll appreciate very much. Thank u.

why most of nf7-s v2.0 users here use pci sound card such as creative brand instead of the nvidia soundstorm?

is soundstorm not good enough? what the cons of this onboard sound?

thank u.

thank u. if that so, i will overvolt a little bit until the 2.2 GHz clockspeed stable enough. Of course I have to priming and stress the cpu in order to check the stability issue.

I still yet to get more juice from this old mainboard.

I used CoolerMaster X-Dream III. Idle at about 48° C and load at 57° C. The barton cpu was run at stock speed. I planned to change the heatsink next month

maybe i should buy CM Hyper 6+ or ThermalTake Big Typhoon.. any recommendation?

My spec is:

1. AMD Barton 2500+ (unlocked version) running at 1.8 Ghz

2. Abit NF7-S v2.0

3. 2 x 256 MB Apacer DDR266 CL2 and 1 x 512 MB Kingston DDR266 CL2.5 -> total of 1 GB RAM in dual channel mode.

4. Palit geforce 6800GS 256 MB 256 bit AGP card

5. 80 GB WD 7200 rpm 8 mb cache and 20 GB Quantum Fireball Plus 7200 rpm 2 mb cache

6. Benq DVD-RW

7. Samsung CD-ROM

8. PSU Coolermaster Realpower 450 Watt

9. Normal casing.

10. 17" Samsung SyncMaster 753DFX CRT Monitor

3dMark03 score --> 10616

3dMark05 score --> 4981

I think if i overclock the cpu to 3200+ speed and change the RAM to DDR400 speed, the score will increase a few notch.

This post has been edited by coolblade: Jul 12 2006, 01:00 AM

uzairi, could u tell us ur volt setting of vcore, vdd, vdimm used in your previous abit nf7-s mainboard?

And anything useful information such as do and don't.

this would help other forumer to gain knowledge based on experienced user such as uzairi.

thank u

This post has been edited by coolblade: Jul 27 2006, 01:11 AM

anyone using two sticks of 1 GB DDR400 RAM in dual channel mode for the NF7-S v2.0 mainboard?

or just better use 2 x 512 MB DDR400 RAM as this setup offer lower latency compared to 2 GB capacity?

I'll quote for u the right setup of dual channel. I get this information from this website

http://www.logan.eclipse.co.uk/abit_nf7_(s)_v2_0.htm

"Memory. So that leads me straight on to the memory for this board. Now all you know that, my pards and I, only use the TwinMos PC3700 with the 4.3ns B chips on it, but you don't have to. BH5 memory is meant to run quite high fsb as well. Take a look around the forum at what others are using to run a high FSB. Take it from me though, the TwinMos stuff flew to 246fsb straight out of the box and I know that RGone has benched it at 250fsb using bios d10.bin. This is the stuff if you can get your hands on it. When OCing, always try and run 256mb modules as they OC better than the 512mb or higher sticks. Try running 2x256 in Dual Channel as you should get a 5% increase. Some find a single stick in Single Channel to get them higher fsb than two sticks in DC. It's up to you test and try it. For Dual Channel use slots 1&3 or 2&3."



"I use 2&3 as they go higher and still stable. If you want to run 3 sticks of ram and still run dual channel then you should have 2x256 in slots 1&2 and a 512 in slot 3.

2x256 = 512 in slots 1&2 and slot 3 is filled with a 512 gives you dual channel...."

This post has been edited by coolblade: Jul 28 2006, 02:39 PM

hmm uzairi, can NF7-S mainboard can support 2 x 1 GB DDR400 RAM?

i am afraid if the max memory support is 1 GB only..

Barton CPU


Thoroughbred CPU


reference:

http://fab51.com/cpu/guide/opn-xp-e.html --> very informative for AMD users here

Can copper shim be fitted to both CPU?

coz I found this link --> http://www.thermaltake.com/2005/accessorie...wCopperShim.htm

said that the thermaltake copper shim was not compatible with barton series.

Anyone has copper shim for barton cpu here?

This post has been edited by coolblade: Jul 30 2006, 12:34 PM

that why i need copper shim, because i frequently move my casing. I am so afraid that my heatsink can chipped the cpu core whilst moving my casing

i've installed the copper shim on my barton 2500+ cpu. And I can confirmed that it cannot fit smoothly on the CPU. Yes, the copper shim can inserted into the cpu but not perfectly matched.

And when I sandwiched the copper shim between CPU and my thermaltake volcano, the thermal was worsening because the copper shim distanced a bit the core from touching the base lap of the heatsink

Previously without the copper shim, the load temp was about 52° C (primed for two hours). With the copper shim, the load temp was around 55° C (primed just for 10 minutes)

I think I need to bring the copper shim to any specialist in metal cutting to modify the hole so that it can fit firmly into the barton CPU.

This post has been edited by coolblade: Aug 12 2006, 11:45 AM

Yup. the small 4 cushions was the cause of the incompability. To get a workaround, I have to bring the copper shim and the CPU to any specialist in metal cutting to make the hole fit nicely with these cushions.

I'll tell u the outcome after do modification on the copper shim.

This post has been edited by coolblade: Aug 12 2006, 02:23 PM

Hehe, welcome back gsan! Old skool overclocking mainboard, isn't it?

Yes. You correctly devise the setup you aforementioned. Good Luck.

I also faced slightly similar problem aforementioned. Sometimes I will be "greeted" with the BIOS checksum error message upon POST stage. I wonder if the circuitry beneath the battery compartment was damaged so the battery can't deliver it's current to ensure the information kept in the BIOS chip intact. OR is the BIOS chip was flawed due to high activity of overclocking experiments?

If I change the BIOS chip with my spare BIOS chip, will the problem solved?

I welcome anyone to express the idea to solve problem of both of me and -=J4cKa5s=-.

This post has been edited by coolblade: Nov 28 2006, 07:56 PM

to sarge hassan, gsan, mr_47, gkwong or zahri:

If anyone of you have, I am asking your favor to send the BIOS file of D26 Mantarays XT 2T. In .bin format.

Thank you.

I am busy with Cisco Academy Program class so bz now to surf every pages regarding to this topic, in order to search links to get the BIOS file.

EDIT: my email is amretz@gmail.com

This post has been edited by coolblade: Nov 30 2006, 09:05 PM