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TSmale_012
post Aug 11 2010, 12:44 PM, updated 16y ago

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Ok, I have some questions regarding my new computer.
Below is the list of devices of my new computer.

Asus Rampage II Extreme
I7 975 Extreme Edition.
Cosair Tripple Channel High Performance Ram 6GB (1600C8LD)
AsusENT GTX480 320bits
Operating System-Windows 7 64bits
Cooler Master 750w Power Supply


Together With My Old Devices (I know is abit funny but I really run our of money.)
*IDE 40GB Hardisk
*And Those Old Devices(mouse, keyboard, monitor & etc)

Ok the problem is
*1st The Graphic Card Doesn't Performe Like What I Have Expected.
I expect the fps to be 100 or over, BUT i Only get (50-90)fps Using 3D Benchmark Vantage.
The Heat Is Really High, When I am playing StarCraft 2 with Maximum Spec.("Means All Set To Ultra")
But Playing StarCraft2 is Smooth & No Lag At All (100% Good)

*I Personally Don't Think The IDE Hardisk Affect Much To The Performance (Yes, but not much).

*Speaking about Over Clocking (I don think is necessary to OverClock my Corsair Ram and Processor)
Because When I Run StarCraft 2, My New Computer System Didn't Even Fully Utilize The I7975 Processor, and the God Damm 6GB Cosair Ram.
Yet When I Touch The Processor And The Cosair Ram. I Didn't Feel They Are Hot Compare With The ASUSGTX480.(Which Is Much More Hotter Then The Ram and Processor)
So, does anyone here knows what is the problem? Or you think BY RIGHT ==> What I Have Bought Shouldn't Get What I Have Expected for sure.

MY Requirement Towards The ASUSENT GTX480 1.5GB 320bits
100 fps or higher (This is important)

Lower Heat (Not So Important)

***** AAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! SO WHAT I CAN DO NOW ???? cry.gif I FEEL SO SAD LOOKING AT THE ******* PERFORMANCE OF MY NEW COMPUTER.
***** My Heart Is Like ==> OOHHHH MY GOD~~~~ IT SEEMS LIKE THE PERFORMANCE IS LOWER THEN THOSE OUTDATED GRAPHIC CARDS BELOW THAN RM1500 ONE


One more Extra Question
*Since my mainboard supprt CrossFire, do u think i can add one more Cheap Graphic Card(Cheap means Rm500-Rm600) without changing the power supply?

This post has been edited by male_012: Aug 11 2010, 12:53 PM
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post Aug 11 2010, 12:59 PM

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erk...... u play at what resolution??? 2560x1600....?? maybe your hard disk is too small.... try upgrading your hard disk to at least 250gb one....

and for the heat, yeah it's already well known that gtx480 produce lot of heat...

u see here --> http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-...li-review/14.... u need 3-way sli to get 100fps in vantage graphic test....

i like to hear what other people say about this tongue.gif....

This post has been edited by zariel: Aug 11 2010, 01:03 PM
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post Aug 11 2010, 01:05 PM

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upgrade ur harddisk to sata, SATA more faster...
even ur mobo got crossfire, but it for ATI only, not NVIDIA.
and if u want multi GPu setup, u need 2 same GPU..
please google a lot
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post Aug 11 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE
u see here --> http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-...li-review/14.... u need 3-way sli to get 100fps in vantage graphic test....

i like to hear what other people say about this tongue.gif....
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So you think it is normal to get (50-90)fps with a single AsusENT GTX480 1.5GB 320bits Graphic Card?
I play at 1280X768 resolution. Why u ask? What do U mean by the last sentence? (I like to hear....)


Added on August 11, 2010, 1:43 pm
QUOTE(megahertz @ Aug 11 2010, 01:05 PM)
upgrade ur harddisk to sata, SATA more faster...
even ur mobo got crossfire, but it for ATI only, not NVIDIA.
and if u want multi GPu setup, u need 2 same GPU..
please google a lot
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Oooouuuu, I knew that (coz I did research before i buy), but I forgot already since i'm too sad for what i had bought.
So the only way is to get another RM1700 GTX480 graphic card.

Hey, so u guys think that the SO DAMM EXPENSIVE GTX480 is supposed to get (50-90)fps as well?

This post has been edited by male_012: Aug 11 2010, 01:44 PM
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post Aug 11 2010, 02:12 PM

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I play at 1280X768 resolution.

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What a waste of money...

For RM 8k, a good monitor and an SSD is valuable. Anything less than 1920x1080 is a waste. SSDs are also strongly recommended for overall system responsiveness.

Cutting back on the i7 975, the 6 GB RAM and the GTX 480 to get the monitor and the SSD is an easy choice to make.
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post Aug 11 2010, 02:14 PM

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Your posts are horribly hard to read but I'll do my best trying to understand them...

1) New hard disk. A WD Caviar black or faster would be a good fit. Your IDE drive is probably horribly fragmented due to the lack of space.
2) Are you using the latest nvidia drivers? Or whatever was in the asus cd?
3) If SC2 made near full use of 6GB of RAM, you'd hear nonstop whining from players over it being a memory hog. Most gaming rigs barely use 4GB at most.
4) The GTX 480 is known to be both very powerful AND very hot.
5) SC2 is designed for dual core CPUs and thus wouldn't use the i7 975 to its fullest.
6) The Rampage 2 extreme supports SLI too, but I don't think you should add another GTX 480, the power supply will be really strained with that inside.

IMO, that's 7900 bucks poorly spent, you should've gotten a GTX 480 with a better cooler (hell, you could even buy another card for SLI) rather than spend on the i7 extreme that you don't even know how to make use of to its fullest.

My suggestion:
-Sell the i7 975 and replace it with an i7 930. You'd probably pocket almost RM2000 for that.
-Use the extra money to get a quality 1080p monitor (such as those Dell Ultrasharps) and a real hard drive.
-No need to upgrade your graphics performance, it's not like you can see 90fps on a 60fps monitor anyway.

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Aug 11 2010, 02:23 PM
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post Aug 11 2010, 02:16 PM

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SC2 already consumes around 12 GB of HDD space if I'm not mistaken. 40 GB of HDD space is really too little.
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post Aug 11 2010, 02:28 PM

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Change your CPU to less performance.

Reduce your RAM to 2-4 gig.

Then use extra money from those trades to buy LN2 cooling set for your GTX480.

Then you just overclock your GTX480 to reach 100+ FPS!!!

Go go go! You can do it! I support!

This post has been edited by JackAlvins: Aug 11 2010, 02:35 PM
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post Aug 11 2010, 02:28 PM

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HMMM extreme proc which are not overclocking is utterly waste,might as well as get 920/930 and oc to 4.2ghz save you lots of money...spec is too overkill for a reso 1280X768..

HDD most probably going to bottleneck the whole system...the building combo is seriously wasted and not practical.

3d vantage benchmanrk is synthetic, doesnt matter how good is your performance in it. real world test/gaming is the only benchmarking that you should do..

compare your score with other people with same graphic card and check their spec and check your spec to see what is missing and how big is your gap in the score.
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Such a waste, mind me but really...like everyone said, SSD & also others are much more important then getting yourself a good card without any excellent cooler like Jack suggested, a good 1080p monitor like yiming suggested...40GB, IDE some more sweat.gif
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Why is it important for 100 fps in game? Can you differentiate 50 fps and 100 fps with your eyes?
Still, get a larger HDD/SSD, really make me doubt about you really got this system or not since windows + SC2 already over 20GB as mention by people above.
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QUOTE(5564321 @ Aug 11 2010, 02:37 PM)
Why is it important for 100 fps in game? Can you differentiate 50 fps and 100 fps with your eyes?
Still, get a larger HDD/SSD, really make me doubt about you really got this system or not since windows + SC2 already over 20GB as mention by people above.
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e-penis my fren. i cant input any good comment other than saying that this thread is really lol-able...
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Aug 11 2010, 02:14 PM)
Your posts are horribly hard to read but I'll do my best trying to understand them...

1) New hard disk. A WD Caviar black or faster would be a good fit. Your IDE drive is probably horribly fragmented due to the lack of space.
2) Are you using the latest nvidia drivers? Or whatever was in the asus cd?
3) If SC2 made near full use of 6GB of RAM, you'd hear nonstop whining from players over it being a memory hog. Most gaming rigs barely use 4GB at most.
4) The GTX 480 is known to be both very powerful AND very hot.
5) SC2 is designed for dual core CPUs and thus wouldn't use the i7 975 to its fullest.
6) The Rampage 2 extreme supports SLI too, but I don't think you should add another GTX 480, the power supply will be really strained with that inside.

IMO, that's 7900 bucks poorly spent, you should've gotten a GTX 480 with a better cooler (hell, you could even buy another card for SLI) rather than spend on the i7 extreme that you don't even know how to make use of to its fullest.

My suggestion:
-Sell the i7 975 and replace it with an i7 930. You'd probably pocket almost RM2000 for that.
-Use the extra money to get a quality 1080p monitor (such as those Dell Ultrasharps) and a real hard drive.
-No need to upgrade your graphics performance, it's not like you can see 90fps on a 60fps monitor anyway.
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agree with yimingwuzere

first, you are running a benchmarking tool that is used to rank graphic cards, if ur single card GTX480 can hit 100++ fps..then dual card setup or above will have even higher result, which is not really helping in terms of benchmark ranking. 3D Mark Vantage is meant to be very very heavy that normally games wont even have.

you have asked this:
"So you think it is normal to get (50-90)fps with a single AsusENT GTX480 1.5GB 320bits Graphic Card?"
and my answer is yes, if scores are so easily gained in a benchmarking tool, it will lose its standard already

second, ur monitor is only 60hz, so anything above 60fps is wasted, so why bother with 3 digit fps?
IMO, you current concern would be dropping the graphic card temperature...
by doing that, u can overclock your graphic card more, and as i recall, GTX 480 is actually very overclockable, but was limited by its heat..so u drop the heat, u can overclock it higher, and u might get 3 digit fps
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QUOTE(male_012 @ Aug 11 2010, 12:44 PM)
IDE 40GB Hardisk
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I guess this is your biggest problem. Such an expensive rig with a crappy hard disk. blink.gif

Upgrade to an SSD or Samsung hard disk.



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and by the way, what software did you use to monitor your framerate in Starcraft II?
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I think your answer lies in ur old 40GB IDE harddisk.Like any mechanical device, a harddisk can age overtime and may not produce the same throughput when it was first bought.Plus this 40GB should be the ancient type running on 5400 rpm. The data read/write may also be insufficient for high end games like SC2.

Have u ever wondered why after some time of constant installing/unistalling and downloading of stuff, your windows feels slow and unresponsive.The answer lies in your harddisk. New SSD doesnt have problem of fragmentation because they work in a different way.

A decent 250GB SATAII wont cost much. You be amazed by the difference.I know cause I upgraded my harddisk just last month from my old IDE.

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QUOTE(n3w @ Aug 11 2010, 02:41 PM)
I guess this is your biggest problem. Such an expensive rig with a crappy hard disk.  blink.gif

Upgrade to an SSD or Samsung hard disk.
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for HDD i think it's better to trust Western Digital or Seagate..personally i wont trust samsung with HDD
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post Aug 11 2010, 02:48 PM

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my fren using i7 980x with cf hd5870, very very powerful, maybe u can try this setup...
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Should have used the money wisely shakehead.gif...well, its your money, your configured rig...

i7 dunno how to utilized it to the fullest and also the 6GB RAM (do you really need this speed??)
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this build is seriously unbalanced... overkill system but the display and HDD is too weak..

should remove the focus from CPU and get a full hd monitor and a better HDD... or SSD..

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