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post Apr 14 2012, 11:07 AM

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Christian's logic:

Relative heart attack. but the heart attack happened in the hospital. docs managed save his life. god is good. god is great. my question is that, if god is so great, why did he give the relative a heart attack in the first place? hmm.gif
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post Apr 14 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Apr 14 2012, 11:08 AM)
thumbup.gif  knowledge

anyway got any free book can share with me?
i like to learn
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http://buddhanet.net/e-learning/qanda.htm
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post Apr 14 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Apr 14 2012, 11:11 AM)
this not god fault or related with god
what i can say is, ownself make ownself
example:
A is very healthy, 1 day A eat too much sugar
after many year A get a diabetes

other case
A really have heart attack since A born to this world
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for buddhists then they will say oh this guy must have had accumulated a lot of good karma. but at least buddhist wont tell the whole world that he got good karma that's why he didn't die. i really lol'ed. maybe i will go to hell for this sad.gif
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post Apr 14 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(BlueBaby @ Apr 14 2012, 11:09 AM)
I was born a christian.Now I'm an Atheist.What kind of Buddhism should i practice?
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what do you wish to seek out of buddhism?
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post Apr 14 2012, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Apr 14 2012, 11:17 AM)
dun care about karma, we go for present n future
do good deep n respect our god n our greatest buddha

that i do Now... if karma happen on me, i dun care
as long i follow my road from born till old n die

if taoism
our life are according in book
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true.. i don't really bother about rebirths either..more focused about the present.. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(BlueBaby @ Apr 14 2012, 11:21 AM)
I wish to make peace and find serenity.To be a good person,an open minded intellectual.I don't suppose there is a god in Buddhism,yes?
As for my knowledge,I leave it to science.
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well, you can start to read about the 4 noble truths and the eight precepts for a start. smile.gif

yes there is no supreme god in buddhism.
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post Apr 14 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(-PraV- @ Apr 14 2012, 11:37 AM)
Wassup buddhists! ayam raised a hindjew but have buddhist beliefs.
Also, please keep the "bashing other religions" thing outta here la. later mods nuke your thered
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no bashing. just questioning. i guess it's a big nono in some religions i guess
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post May 5 2012, 09:11 AM

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Happy wesak day to all, may everybody be well and happy always.
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post Aug 25 2012, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Aug 25 2012, 10:10 PM)
care to explain how is it related? hmm.gif
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before islam came to malaya it was all buddhism and hinduism back then..
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post Apr 8 2013, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(whoba @ Apr 7 2013, 11:31 PM)
Im rather curious in the history of how Islam became so influential over Buddhism and Hinduism.
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all started during the melaka sultanate....when islam spread like wild fire... if history serves me right..
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post Nov 28 2014, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(simpletraveler @ Nov 28 2014, 05:28 PM)
Later took over by Christianity which is more aggressive in marketing and Islam is more forceful and lawful.
It shows Buddhism Hinduism Taoism are all too soft and not ambiguous.
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it's not soft.. just that spreading the religion is not the main cause of Buddhists.. unlike christians and islam who wishes to convert as many people as possible so that everybody can go to heaven together.
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post Nov 29 2014, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(simpletraveler @ Nov 29 2014, 09:17 AM)
Out of the 3 basic flaws of human, ignorance is the real cause actually. For example based on your statement.
Buddhists are not ambitious and don't do marketing to spread like Christianity, so slowly many Buddhist followers esp the ignorant ones are easily converted by Christianity. I advise Buddhists to share more knowledge to their children to prevent them from being influenced and converted by others. Most Buddhists still think that they should be compassionate to others and let freedom of religion to their children and everyone. This is actually ignorance too. They don't realise that Christianity is using money to spread their religion.  On your last part that those 2 religions tried to convert people so that everyone can go to heaven is the highest level of ignorance and greed. I always tell people not be cheated by such beliefs. If they really believe they can go to heaven, why didn't their leaders...like the priests and pastors commit suicide ?
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well..9/10 so called 'buddhists' who converted to other religions do not have a strong understanding of buddhism in the first place.. they are mere followers of buddhism tradition such as going to temples, burning incenses, praying etc. without actually understanding what Buddha had actually taught (i.e. 5 precepts, the noble path etc.).

buddhism is also a 'lonely' journey compared to christianity where they have cell groups and church attendance every weekend.. members of the church are always showered with attention week in week out so this is a huge attraction point to some people from other faiths as well..
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QUOTE(LightNightbreed @ Dec 16 2014, 11:48 PM)
every single human being is a buddhist. how to gtfo?
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wah you read this thread from page 1 ah laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Feb 9 2017, 08:32 AM)
Immediate family of the Buddha

1.  King Suddhodana (Father) - Became a lay arahant

2.  Queen Maha Maya (Mother) - Passed away 7 days after giving birth to the Buddha, reborn as a deva (god) in Tusita realm.

3. Maha Pajapati Gotami (sister of Queen Maya who nursed and took care of the young Sidartha) - became an arahant (female nun)

4. Yasodhara (sidarta's wife) - She attained Arahanthship and was declared the chief disciple among the nuns who attained supernormal powers (Maha Abhiaaa) to recall infinite eras of the past.

5. Rahula (buddha's son) - Became arahant. Rahula passed away before the Buddha, Sariputta and Moggallana. The Buddha declared that Rahula was foremost among the monks for his high standard of discipline and obedience. Rahula, who had entered the order at the tender age of seven, was a role model for the younger members of the Noble Order through his obedience and pleasing nature.
As we can see, all the Buddha's family benefited from Buddha's enlightenment. The Buddha gave them the deathless state, and certainly did not abandon them after attaining enlightenment
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