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post Aug 9 2010, 05:52 PM, updated 16y ago

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I'm foreigner studying in Malaysia. My friends and I want to open a small restaurant to introduce our country's food. But we dont know how to apply to Malaysia GOV and what papers we have to prepare. Anybody can help?


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post Aug 9 2010, 05:55 PM

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it's easier for you to get a local biz partner. so all process will be smoother with local name in the documentation
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you need to prepare 'wang kertas'. lots of them!
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wat nationality are you ?? wat food youre going to sell ? how much kopi o you wan to buy ?
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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 06:52 PM)
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I'm foreigner studying in Malaysia. My friends and I want to open a small restaurant to introduce our country's food. But we dont know how to apply to Malaysia GOV and what papers we have to prepare. Anybody can help?
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this is where u shud post this kind of question if u r really serious.

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post Aug 9 2010, 05:59 PM

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i love nikka food
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:00 PM

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I'm Vietnamese and I want to open Vietnam restaurant. hehe
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QUOTE(Polaris @ Aug 9 2010, 05:54 PM)
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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 05:52 PM)
Hello!
I'm foreigner studying in Malaysia. My friends and I want to open a small restaurant to introduce our country's food. But we dont know how to apply to Malaysia GOV and what papers we have to prepare. Anybody can help?
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Please consult Jabatan Agama Islam Negeri First, they will monitor on what the ingredient and how the food was made..
it is not wrong if u sell halal food without sijil halal right..just not certified only sweat.gif
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:01 PM

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you need to partner with a local to go through the paperwork smoothly...
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if yr a student very hard.. cause yr permit is to study not run a freaking business
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 9 2010, 06:00 PM)
Please consult Jabatan Agama Islam Negeri First, they will monitor on what the ingredient and how the food was made..
it is not wrong if u sell halal food without sijil halal right..just not certified only  sweat.gif
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it's illegal to put halal food without cert...
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:02 PM

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we want to produce food only. and it's non halal food
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:04 PM

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at my place there is a philippines food store they sell nice foods inside cainis hawker center 8.50 1 set but naisee his wife can speak hokkien maybe u need a local wife smile.gif
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QUOTE(rainy~days @ Aug 9 2010, 06:02 PM)
it's illegal to put halal food without cert...
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orly? i though is more illegal sale haram food with halal cert or illegal logo
many hotel,kedai makan melayu dont have halal cert,but no action has been taken right
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:05 PM

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halal cert costs around 50k
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:06 PM

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i will sell non halal food
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:06 PM

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Some general info -
http://www.doingbusiness.org/exploretopics...x?economyid=119

http://www.malaysia.gov.my/EN/Relevant%20T...sinessMain.aspx

You also need licenses from the relevant authorities.


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post Aug 9 2010, 06:06 PM

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anyone have tried vietnamese food before. It's not Vietnamese food in pavilion and midvalley. They are selling bullshit there
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 06:06 PM)
i will sell non halal food
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than you should have to get lesen jualan makanan onli..
dont lie to people saying you food is halal when the food is non-halal

p.s- i think malaysian must be a share holder inside a company for getting a license sweat.gif

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post Aug 9 2010, 06:09 PM

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it's not a good idea to compare vietnam taste with malaysia people taste bud...

it might be authentic Vietnam taste but malaysia people will find it weird.
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(rainy~days @ Aug 9 2010, 06:09 PM)
it's not a good idea to compare vietnam taste with malaysia people taste bud...

it might be authentic Vietnam taste but malaysia people will find it weird.
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i not compare vietnam food with malaysia food
i just told that vietnamese restaurant in pavilion and midvalley are not cooked by vietnam people. so it's not vietnam food. thanks
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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 07:06 PM)
anyone have tried vietnamese food before. It's not Vietnamese food in pavilion and midvalley. They are selling bullshit there
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Real Vietnamese food? I'm game.


BTW, have to tried testing it out on your local friends first? Some food taste different from the original country's simply because locals dislike the taste of the original.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 9 2010, 06:08 PM)
than you should have to get lesen jualan makanan onli..
dont lie to people saying you food is halal when the food is non-halal

p.s- i think malaysian must be a share holder inside a company for getting a license  sweat.gif
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from the start he never mention to sell halal food. sweat.gif

vietnam food have pork & alcohol in cooking...
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Aug 9 2010, 06:11 PM)
Real Vietnamese food? I'm game.
BTW, have to tried testing it out on your local friends first? Some food taste different from the original country's simply because locals dislike the taste of the original.
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Yes, My friends've tried it before and they love it. That why we want to open a small restaurant to produce our food. hehe
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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 06:13 PM)
Yes, My friends've tried it before and they love it. That why we want to open a small restaurant to produce our food. hehe
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Your selling Pho Bo ? If yes do inform me...i can intro people to patronise..perhaps....i can run it for you also ? haha
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That's good then. Best of luck and let us know when you open it.
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(rainy~days @ Aug 9 2010, 06:11 PM)
from the start he never mention to sell halal food.  sweat.gif

vietnam food have pork & alcohol in cooking...
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yes, vietnamese food have pork so that why its non halal

I want to sell food like some chicken rice restaurent only. Is that need to open a company
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:16 PM

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food must be localized. you have to let more people try first.
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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 06:10 PM)
i not compare vietnam food with malaysia food
i just told that vietnamese restaurant in pavilion and midvalley are not cooked by vietnam people. so it's not vietnam food. thanks
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Nationality is not a problem if the chef is train & skilled in the cuisine. btw u just insulted tons of chefs tongue.gif

anyway you should find a trustable local partner, you do the cooking and they do the management.
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(vendetta87 @ Aug 9 2010, 06:15 PM)
Your selling Pho Bo ? If yes do inform me...i can intro people to patronise..perhaps....i can run it for you also ? haha
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Thanks
Pho Bo is a part of vietnamese food. Of course, We will sell it. We are trying to open it first. Members of LYN will have discount when we open it smile.gif)
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Go for NON HALAL

vietnamese food has pork. Its not fitting for muslims.


Added on August 9, 2010, 6:21 pmTo get halal certification, you're adding more COSTS into your operations.

SO AVOID!

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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 06:10 PM)
i not compare vietnam food with malaysia food
i just told that vietnamese restaurant in pavilion and midvalley are not cooked by vietnam people. so it's not vietnam food. thanks
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you intend to hire vietnamese workers to cook???

now thats expensive...but still better than those who hire INDONS that CANT COOK! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Aug 9 2010, 06:23 PM)
you intend to hire vietnamese workers to cook???

now thats expensive...but still better than those who hire INDONS that CANT COOK!  rclxms.gif
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yes. If the food is better, a little expensive is not a problem.
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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 06:24 PM)
yes. If the food is better, a little expensive is not a problem.
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The most authentic vietnamese food i've tried (away from vietnam) was in melbourne, where there's a lot of vietnamese there.

The beef and rice noodles are awesome.

For legal matters, talk to a company secretary to form a private limited company and get necessary licenses and inocculations for food handling.
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Aug 9 2010, 06:26 PM)
The most authentic vietnamese food i've tried (away from vietnam) was in melbourne, where there's a lot of vietnamese there.

The beef and rice noodles are awesome.

For legal matters, talk to a company secretary to form a private limited company and get necessary licenses and inocculations for food handling.
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thanks for your replying. I will ask my friend to open a company.
i thought that we could open a restaurant without under a company

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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 06:32 PM)
thanks for your replying. I will ask my friend to open a company.
i thought that we could open a restaurant without under a company
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Its a business. All businesses has to be registered.

Sole proprietary business is the easiest (which i used when i first startup my own biz) which can be done online. But for foreigners, need more process.

In your case, its best to go for private limited business (Sdn Bhd or sendirian berhad). This is because when people get food poisoning (worse case scenario), and you got sued, your personal liabilities are limited...so you don't go broke and live on the streets.

Its to safeguard yourself and your assets.
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Bro,You trying to open restaurant or just a small stall?
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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Aug 9 2010, 06:44 PM)
Bro,You trying to open restaurant or just a small stall?
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A small stall call Restoran Pendatang Vietnam rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Aug 9 2010, 06:44 PM)
Bro,You trying to open restaurant or just a small stall?
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yes. maybe a small stall if difficult to open a small restaurant biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Aug 9 2010, 06:45 PM)
A small stall call Restoran Pendatang Vietnam  rclxms.gif
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or Restoran Boat people , Not insulting vietneamese btw
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:51 PM

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sorry, We want to introduce food only. No need to call us Immigrants
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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 06:51 PM)
sorry, We want to introduce food only. No need to call us Immigrants
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Sorry, no need to feel shy.

we chinese immigrants have been called immigrants for so long past 50 over years.

you're still new. Will get used to it la. No worry. you can even be one of the wealthiest people in malaysia. top 10 richest in this country are mostly all immigrants. So its no problem.
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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 06:06 PM)
anyone have tried vietnamese food before. It's not Vietnamese food in pavilion and midvalley. They are selling bullshit there
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u dun simply call other people's food bullshit ok. vietnam then ? so power ar ? i sked ? i sked ? walauweh.. not yet open restaurant already simply insult other ppl place , later open liao u will call our nasi lemak capati tosei bkt all bullshit also ?
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QUOTE(Hexism @ Aug 9 2010, 07:08 PM)
u dun simply call other people's food bullshit ok. vietnam then ? so power ar ? i sked ? i sked ? walauweh.. not yet open restaurant already simply insult other ppl place , later open liao u will call our nasi lemak capati tosei bkt all bullshit also ?
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If you've tried real vietnamese food, those u see in pavilion and MV are indeed shitbrix food and expensive.

Even the one in USJ taipan tastes like crap.
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QUOTE(Hexism @ Aug 9 2010, 07:08 PM)
u dun simply call other people's food bullshit ok. vietnam then ? so power ar ? i sked ? i sked ? walauweh.. not yet open restaurant already simply insult other ppl place , later open liao u will call our nasi lemak capati tosei bkt all bullshit also ?
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hey, you dont know what i mean.
i just told that they are selling vietnamese food in vietnamese restaurant
But it's not authentic vietnamese food
That what i mean
sorry if I've touch you
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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 07:12 PM)
hey, you dont know what i mean.
i just told that they are selling vietnamese food in vietnamese restaurant
But it's not authentic vietnamese food
That what i mean
sorry if I've touch you
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NEVER EVER BE SORRY FOR TOUCHING SOMEONE!

Thats the malaysian culture. if you touched someone, make sure you say "suka tak? mau lagi?" and they will say "sa sayang, terima kasih"

touch, please touch me also. i love it when you touch me
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Aug 9 2010, 07:13 PM)
NEVER EVER BE SORRY FOR TOUCHING SOMEONE!

Thats the malaysian culture. if you touched someone, make sure you say "suka tak? mau lagi?" and they will say "sa sayang, terima kasih"

touch, please touch me also. i love it when you touch me
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haha. got it
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if ur partner is bumiputra den everything will run smoothly
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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 05:52 PM)
Hello!
I'm foreigner studying in Malaysia. My friends and I want to open a small restaurant to introduce our country's food. But we dont know how to apply to Malaysia GOV and what papers we have to prepare. Anybody can help?
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If non-halal, u must make sure it is in a densely Chinese populated area.
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Hi, I am assisting anyone who are interested to venture into F&B business including menu design, restaurant design, renovation and etc. All of my team consultants are well trained whose promise to provide complete distinctive professional services. My email address is setting4u@gmail.com and mobile number is 012-2797936 (Ben), contact me if you want to know more details.
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QUOTE(settingforu @ Apr 26 2011, 12:35 AM)
Hi, I am assisting anyone who are interested to venture into F&B business including menu design, restaurant design, renovation and etc. All of my team consultants are well trained whose promise to provide complete distinctive professional services. My email address is setting4u@gmail.com and mobile number is 012-2797936 (Ben), contact me if you want to know more details.
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Post ur phone no. in this forum is not a good idea.

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QUOTE(itune_gifts @ Aug 9 2010, 05:52 PM)
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I'm foreigner studying in Malaysia. My friends and I want to open a small restaurant to introduce our country's food. But we dont know how to apply to Malaysia GOV and what papers we have to prepare. Anybody can help?
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Hi, we're in a similar situation regarding opening a restaurant as foreigners and we've found a few things...

You DON'T need to have a Malaysian business partner. We've just setup a company, legally, though an accountant and there was no problems. Only thing was that they didn't like the names we chose. That's about it. Once you've done that you need to get a bank account opened and then your food safety certificates and a tetanus injection for all your workers. There's a host of other forms etc that they only offer in Bahasa so you'll need a friend who can translate them.

You don't need to get a halal certificate, if your suppliers are halal certified then you can say that on your menu, signage etc. If you get a halal cert I believe that you need to employ malaysians but I'm not sure. That's only if you're not serving pork

I've been to Vietnam and pork appears so much in dishes that it would be odd not serving it but you will cut out a chunk of the market. Saying that, there are lots of restaurants that serve pork and are busy so I would say to test out your food on a focus group and gauge the feedback. Use social networking lots! and let me know when you want a website built wink.gif

Other than that it's relatively easy for foreigners to setup a restaurant in Malaysia if you've got the investment.

I wish you the best of luck and let me know how you get on. It'll be interesting to follow your project.


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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Aug 9 2010, 07:12 PM)
If you've tried real vietnamese food, those u see in pavilion and MV are indeed shitbrix food and expensive.

Even the one in USJ taipan tastes like crap.
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Is Shitbrix a brand? If not it sounds like a great name for a breakfast cereal rclxms.gif

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