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dwin95
post Jan 16 2012, 08:29 PM

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approx how much weight can i lose in 1 month if my routine is like this ;

jog 30 mins ( with slopes ) - 3 times a week
basketball 2 hour - 2 times a week
skip rope 45 minutes ( fast pace ) - 4 times a week

but i rarely control my diet . Although i skip fast food tho . thanks !


Added on January 16, 2012, 8:29 pmbtw im 75 kg 175 cm smile.gif

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post Feb 3 2012, 09:16 PM

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I want to lose weight , started this regime today
Gonna do HIIT for 4-5 times a week

HIIT :
RUnning for 3 mins and walk 2 mins x4
rest 10 mins
skip rope for 20 mins
(When i skip rope very tired , will feel like no mood to jump d but still force myself to jump)
OR
jump rope for 40 minutes

Diet:
Early breakfast , 6.30am : Oats with fresh milk or cereal with fresh milk or herbalife or 2 half boiled eggs w/ bread
Breakfast in school 10.30am : Fruits , ( mostly watermelon and jambu) , sometimes fruits plus natural valley's bar.
Lunch 1-3 pm : anything except fast food ( will try to control intake tho)
Tea : very seldom , maybe cereal with fresh milk sometimes if hungry
Dinner : Cereal with fresh milk or subway or salad (seldom) or poached salmon with brocroli and mashed potatoes (seldom)

cheat days once in a blue moon.


Should i go with this regime ? Im 80kg 174cm , big tummy and with moobs . paln to lose at least 10 kg ? is it possible ? thanks !


p/s , how much calorie can i possibly lose after every hiit training ? thanks !
dwin95
post Feb 4 2012, 02:12 PM

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I want to lose weight , started this regime today
Gonna do HIIT for 4-5 times a week

HIIT :
RUnning for 3 mins and walk 2 mins x4
rest 10 mins
skip rope for 20 mins
(When i skip rope very tired , will feel like no mood to jump d but still force myself to jump)
OR
jump rope for 40 minutes

Diet:
Early breakfast , 6.30am : Oats with fresh milk or cereal with fresh milk or herbalife or 2 half boiled eggs w/ bread
Breakfast in school 10.30am : Fruits , ( mostly watermelon and jambu) , sometimes fruits plus natural valley's bar.
Lunch 1-3 pm : anything except fast food ( will try to control intake tho)
Tea : very seldom , maybe cereal with fresh milk sometimes if hungry
Dinner : Cereal with fresh milk or subway or salad (seldom) or poached salmon with brocroli and mashed potatoes (seldom)

cheat days once in a blue moon.


Should i go with this regime ? Im 80kg 174cm , big tummy and with moobs . paln to lose at least 10 kg ? is it possible ? thanks !


p/s , how much calorie can i possibly lose after every hiit training ? thanks !
dwin95
post Feb 5 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Feb 5 2012, 01:31 AM)
Do you know that if you do HIIT too often too much you actually get fatter cos you cut into your recovery and lean muscle mass causing a drop in BMR leading to an increased rate of fat gain?

Plus, HIIT is extremely draining on the central nervous system and will affect your muscle gains.
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Really ?! thanks for the info mate . I guess i shall stick to 3 times a week with 1 day recovery in between ? and , is it okay to go for a light jog for say 20 minutes on the recovery day ? thanks !
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post Feb 6 2012, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Feb 5 2012, 11:42 PM)
Lol. I don't do cardio.

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And I can get this with dieting. Fat loss is more than 50% dieting. If you just rely on cardio to lose bodyfat and the moment you stop cardio you start gaining fat means you need to tweak your diet. I feel that a solid strength/bb'ing program and a good diet is sufficient.

Unless you plan to utilize cardio for cardiovascular health then it's a different story. Nothing wrong with running but don't depend on it as a crutch.
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Sadly , i dont do any weight liftings icon_question.gif

Your body is pretty much every man's dream haha.

But what im targeting (or hope) is to get at least a flat stomach and reveal some abs (something like those body that most celebs have ?). And if im thinking Cardio should be the way to go for a quick result.

I got a problem now , I dont think my diet is proper , i've been taking only 1k-1.3k calories for 2 days now and you once said if my calories are too low it'll eat up my lean muscle thus its way easier to gain weight right ? What should be the proper amount of calorie i take everyday ? currently 74kg and 174cm , still a teenager . planning to lose 10kg or more in 2 months .

Also , is it recommended if I do some light exercise during my rest day ? (day after HIIT) i.e jogging for 20 mins or anything equivalent ?

Anything I say up there might be bollocks , teaching and any advice would be deeply appreciated thumbup.gif

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post Feb 6 2012, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Feb 6 2012, 12:59 AM)
Here's the paradox. HIIT is slightly superior to LISS for fat loss BUT the former has a higher chance to screw your CNS over. And cardio also affects insulin sensitivity if overdone. It's a double edged sword. but if your diet is dialed in AND supplemented with cardio, BAM! Insane fat loss.

Problem is go too much on a deficit and your body says screw you, I'm retaining the fat. That's why crash diets don't work. Too much LBM loss, and mostly water weight loss. Just like pigging out over the weekend for 2 days non stop, not time to panic yet because most of the gain is water weight, that's the time to go on an aggressive caloric deficit but also don't overdo it.

Your body doesn't want to lose fat. So it get to a reasonably lean state is quite easy, to hit a single digit bodyfat the rules are rewritten. Don't rush it, aim for a loss of 1kg over a week.

If you are in a caloric deficit, your body makes it up by eating itself. Your body gets to choose what parts of itself it is going to eat (fat or lean tissue). It tries to be smart about it and chooses whatever gives you the best chance of survival.

If your body has too much or too little of something, it can usually solve the problem with a conversion. Need more glycogen, then convert some protein into it. Too much glycogen, then convert it into fat.

The preferred fuel for most of your body is glucose. Just about everything runs fine on it. However, your heart doesn't. It runs on a mix of glucose, fat, and ketones. So your body produces ketones all the time because your heart has to have them. 25% of the fuel for your brain has to be glucose. So there is always going to be some in your body, even if your body has to convert something else into it.

The secondary fuel for most of your body is fat (free fatty acids really). Just about everything runs fine on fat. However, your brain and Type II muscle fibers don't. They need glucose or ketones. That is why weight lifting really sucks on low-carb diets. You just don't have enough glucose to use your Type II muscles effectively.

Another fuel for your body is ketones. Just about everything can use them, but except for your heart, they normally don't. They will when your ketone levels first start rising, but after a while they stop and let your brain have it all (both the glucose and the ketones).

Being in ketosis means that your body is making more ketones than it normally would if there was plenty of glucose available. So the definition of ketosis is having an elevated level of ketones.

Considering that your body can only store about 1 days worth of glycogen, elevating your ketone level is a pretty easy thing to do. Just stop eating carbs and it will elevate.

How much it elevates depends how much fat (dietary and body) your body has available and how willing it is to use that fat for this purpose. Your body is also really good at converting protein to glucose. It doesn't have to make up the entire carb deficit with fat, and if you are lean it won't.

That is why keto diets stall out when people get to an average level of fatness. Once your body gets to a fat level it is happy with, it starts cutting back on the amount of body fat it is going to turn into keytones. If you are doing the normal eat as much as you want keto diet, you just eat more and your body uses dietary fats/proteins to make up the carb deficit. So instead of naturally eating at a deficit, you start naturally eating at maintenance and your weight loss stalls.

At this point, if the keto person restricts their calories, then they usually end up skinny-fat. A lot of their weight loss will be muscle.

You can encourage your body to keep your muscles if you use them. Not in a cardio way (it doesn't take much muscle to do cardio) but in a strenuous way (like weight lifting). However, as we mentioned earlier it really sucks trying to do anything strenuous when you don't have enough glycogen to power your Type II muscles.

That is where CKD comes in. You carb load, which refills your glycogen stores so you can use your muscles to encourage your body not to eat them. If you carb load around your work out, then that will make it easier to build more muscle. Now you are doing TKD.

Then after the carb load you switch back to a keto type diet to help control your hunger while you are resting. Will that elevate your ketones? Yep. To keto diet type levels? It depends, maybe, maybe not. Do we care? Nope.

We don't really want to waste our glycogen doing a bunch of cardio before our next weight lifting session. However, stuff like waking and other LISS activities don't really use a lot of glycogen, so doing that is fine.

Also, if you eat a lot of protein it will help keep you feeling full (because it's hard to digest) and if your body needs glycogen it will convert your dietary protein to glycogen before it converts your muscles to glycogen. So having extra dietary protein is a good idea.
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holy shit , im so grateful that you typed an entire post for me but forgive me for this, i dont understand a single thing im reading lol.

but ill still try my best to read thru and understand it . thank you, really appreciate it blush.gif
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post Feb 6 2012, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Feb 6 2012, 01:36 AM)
Google. =) Reread it again and you'll understand. Don't fix what isn't broken. DOn't rush things. Once changes stop, then start something different gradually.

And cardio is INFERIOR to DIET for fat loss, period. Absolute truth.

WEIGHT TRAINING AND DIET is ultimately superior than just cardio and diet for fat loss.
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I would go with weight training but I just dont have access to the tools needed . so I can only work with what i have , which is cardio + diet .

it is inferior but thats all i can do , period sad.gif

btw , what is the perfect calorie intake for me ? quick question . gonna go sleep soon . tired . and thank you ! smile.gif
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post Feb 6 2012, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Feb 6 2012, 02:03 AM)
Tsk, chin ups, push ups? Weighted.

How i know? Lol. Google. I dunno your BW, waist size, etc. Google!
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google too general lah haha , got sifu to ask of course ask la ! tongue.gif

33 , 174cm , 74kg , 17yo , male
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post Feb 6 2012, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Feb 6 2012, 02:40 AM)
google. I'm here to help and advise. Not to spoonfeed. Malaysians are seriously lazy when it comes to internet research.
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So I googled a little bit and found a thing call the bmr ? It says to maintain my weight I need around 2.2k cal I take everyday. So does that mean I need to lose 1k calorie thru diet and exercise (excluding calorie burn at rest) each day to hit my target ?
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post Feb 7 2012, 08:15 PM

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hey , just wondering . im at day 5 of my own weight lost programme haha. but idk why on the first few day i lost 1kg , from 75-74kg , and today i just found out i gained back the 1kg which means im still at 75kg ? i exercise hard everyday and try to keep my calories below 1500 but end up i gained a kg ? why ? sad.gif

hope to get a reply soon . thyank you !

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