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TSsaturn85
post Aug 6 2010, 10:21 PM, updated 16y ago

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anyone here use Onkyo sound card before?
how is the sound quality if compared with Audiotrak Prodigy sound card and Asus Xonar Essence ST?

Onkyo SE-90PCI
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Onkyo SE-200PCI
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Audiotrak Prodigy 7.1 HiFi
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Audiotrak Prodigy HD2
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Asus Xonar Essence ST
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post Aug 7 2010, 12:27 AM

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I have prodigy hifi and x-fi.prodigy is superb. asus i never tried. But i would really want to try the onkyo. Theres a forumer whos modding it. I think its a bit pricey the onkyo (correct me if i'm wrong).anyone selling it in malaysia?

For music, i'd go for HD2, but cant say if compared to onkyo.
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post Aug 7 2010, 12:40 AM

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bro StratOS is selling onkyo sound card here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1489200

and those gold capacitor on it, really sound like very high end. brows.gif
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post Aug 7 2010, 12:46 AM

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Thanks mate. i'll look into it. have you heard/try it?


Added on August 7, 2010, 12:49 amLOLOL...forgot i saw it. pricey

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post Aug 7 2010, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(anchovies93 @ Aug 7 2010, 12:46 AM)
Thanks mate. i'll look into it. have you heard/try it?


Added on August 7, 2010, 12:49 amLOLOL...forgot i saw it. pricey
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i didn't try it leh, no budget for it. sweat.gif
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post Aug 7 2010, 03:35 AM

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if u have the cash
Asus Xonar Essence ST

will be a good buy
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post Aug 7 2010, 04:32 AM

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how about the sound quality of Onkyo SE-200PCI compared to Asus Xonar Essence ST?
i think it cost more than the Asus Xonar Essence ST.
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Aug 7 2010, 04:32 AM)
how about the sound quality of Onkyo SE-200PCI compared to Asus Xonar Essence ST?
i think it cost more than the Asus Xonar Essence ST.
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My fren had one he said its a very good soundcard but for the price tag its not really worthy it furthermore u require a very good setup to pair with it or its pretty useless
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post Aug 7 2010, 11:30 AM

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Mind to tell what speakers you have?


Added on August 7, 2010, 11:30 amAnd that's supposed to be STX not ST.

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post Aug 7 2010, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(rxy @ Aug 7 2010, 11:30 AM)
Mind to tell what speakers you have?


Added on August 7, 2010, 11:30 amAnd that's supposed to be STX not ST.
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ST is correct... the part that connect to the mobo is PCI
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post Aug 7 2010, 02:38 PM

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So got two versions?
What the two connections beside the RCA ones?
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 7 2010, 10:11 AM)
My fren had one he said its a very good soundcard but for the price tag its not really worthy it furthermore u require a very good setup to pair with it or its pretty useless
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woo, means the sound quality is better than the asus one lo?
QUOTE(rxy @ Aug 7 2010, 11:30 AM)
Mind to tell what speakers you have?
And that's supposed to be STX not ST.
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currently using HD438 only. sweat.gif
and the asus xonar card is ST, since it is pci version. smile.gif
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Aug 7 2010, 04:35 PM)
woo, means the sound quality is better than the asus one lo?

currently using HD438 only.  sweat.gif
and the asus xonar card is ST, since it is pci version.  smile.gif
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ST card got clock to reduce jitter.

I have heard my friend who used to Onkyo card say its sounds good for vocal.
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post Aug 7 2010, 05:40 PM

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Sennheiser HD 438?

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post Aug 7 2010, 08:17 PM

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iszit? laugh.gif

Anyways, ignoring the troll, these cards do perform well. And well suited to be entry level soundcards for music.

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post Aug 7 2010, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(dlyz @ Aug 7 2010, 09:17 PM)
iszit?  laugh.gif

Anyways, ignoring the troll, these cards do perform well. And well suited to be entry level soundcards for music.
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Please DONOT simply speak, if u do not know wat it is.
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QUOTE(dlyz @ Aug 7 2010, 09:17 PM)
iszit?  laugh.gif

Anyways, ignoring the troll, these cards do perform well. And well suited to be entry level soundcards for music.
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Please DONOT simply speak, if u do not know wat it is.


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post Aug 7 2010, 08:33 PM

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Well i do know what i am saying... you dont understand my england? Stick to topic please. We are interested in the sound, not the technical detail of the cards.

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post Aug 7 2010, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(dlyz @ Aug 7 2010, 09:33 PM)
Well i do know what i am saying... you dont understand my england? Stick to topic please. We are interested in the sound, not the technical detail of the cards.
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haha... i did listened to one of my friend's friend using asus stx mod all opamps to burson and RM6000 crystal XO...

hmmm.... ASUS IS NOT ANYTHING SPECIAL...
NO MATTER HOW, IT WILL NOT TURN AN EVIL TO AN ANGEL. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

I GUESS HD2 IS GOOD ENUFF TO SAVE UR POCKET..

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QUOTE(vir___killer @ Aug 7 2010, 08:53 PM)
haha... i did listened to one of my friend's friend using asus stx mod all opamps to burson and RM6000 crystal XO...

hmmm.... i ADVICE TO EVERYONE WHO OWN STX OR ST, JUST KEEP THE CARD STOCK. DO NOT MOD.
NO MATTER HOW, IT WILL NOT TURN AN EVIL TO AN ANGEL. smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif
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No one here talk about modding but just sound.
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QUOTE(dlyz @ Aug 7 2010, 09:17 PM)
iszit?  laugh.gif

Anyways, ignoring the troll, these cards do perform well. And well suited to be entry level soundcards for SOUND.
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QUOTE(rxy @ Aug 7 2010, 05:40 PM)
Sennheiser HD 438?
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yea, i m using headphone. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vir___killer @ Aug 7 2010, 08:53 PM)
haha... i did listened to one of my friend's friend using asus stx mod all opamps to burson and RM6000 crystal XO...

hmmm.... ASUS IS NOT ANYTHING SPECIAL...
NO MATTER HOW, IT WILL NOT TURN AN EVIL TO AN ANGEL. smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif

I GUESS HD2 IS GOOD ENUFF TO SAVE UR POCKET..
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is there any card can turn evil to angel? dont joke la.. perharps i can suggest u listen or playing with hymns? I belive it bring u to God. Asus xonar stx overall is better than hd2 where i audit b4..in term gaming, asus more feature and my hd2 got compatible with some game (bsod) and cant use mic. doh.gif HD2 did better after changing the op. if really no budget and only concern about sound/music, ts can suggest try hd2 coz there are alot good review and i had point out it weakness as well..onkyo card maybe ts can risk urself and give us some review on it? blush.gif
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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Aug 7 2010, 10:50 PM)
onkyo card maybe ts can risk urself and give us some review on it? blush.gif
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haha, currently no budget for the onkyo card. sweat.gif
just curious how is the sound quality of this card if compared with other sound cards.
like Asus Xonar Essence ST and even ESI Juli@. unsure.gif
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my opinion is that the most important part of your audio is the source itself.. and when you have that the rest of your equipment sounds as good as the bad link.. hope you guys know what i am talking about.. cheers...
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QUOTE(weng98 @ Aug 7 2010, 11:00 PM)
my opinion is that the most important part of your audio is the source itself.. and when you have that the rest of your equipment sounds as good as the bad link.. hope you guys know what i am talking about.. cheers...
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the source you mean is the music files? brows.gif
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Aug 7 2010, 10:57 PM)
haha, currently no budget for the onkyo card.  sweat.gif
just curious how is the sound quality of this card if compared with other sound cards.
like Asus Xonar Essence ST and even ESI Juli@.  unsure.gif
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Esi juli@ hard to find..ST is too $$..and tat Onkyo SE-200PCI also not worth for tat price.. Onkyo SE-90PCI maybe can try hunt for it but it level should be on par with hd2. but remember that ur song sources must be good as well ur speaker..
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QUOTE(vir___killer @ Aug 7 2010, 07:30 PM)
this guy know shit about music..... but just shit.

Difference of STX and ST is completely SAME!
STX has more jitter because their IC native is pci interface, but they use a bridge converter to PCI-E.

Onkyo and asus is still using cheap clocks.
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Stop trolling, you are the only one who know nothing about Xonar cards. ST have CS2000 jitter reducer chip on the card, the crystal clock is still the same, not just the PCI to PCIe bridge.
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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Aug 7 2010, 11:50 PM)
is there any card can turn evil to angel? dont joke la.. perharps i can suggest u listen or playing with hymns? I belive it bring u to God. Asus xonar stx overall is better than hd2 where i audit b4..in term gaming, asus more feature and my hd2 got compatible with some game (bsod) and cant use mic. doh.gif HD2 did better after changing the op. if really no budget and only concern about sound/music, ts can suggest try hd2 coz there are alot good review and i had point out it weakness as well..onkyo card maybe ts can risk urself and give us some review on it? blush.gif
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LOL.... THERE IS AN ANGEL... MERGING TECHNOLOGY Mykerinos-X.. WHICH I HEARD B4 WITH DAD AX24 REALLY BLEW ME UP.

MAY B ASUS DID PERFORM IN GAMING, BUT IN MUSIC IT IS STILL SOUND VERY DIGITAL EVEN MODED LOT.

I DO NOT RECOMMEND PPL TO SPEND MONEY ON INTERNAL SOUND CARD FOR ANALOG OUTPUT.
A COMPUTER MERELY CAN PERFORM WELL IN DIGITAL OUTPUT.

IF U WANNA SOMETHING REALLY MEANT FOR MUSIC THEN U MUST NEED A DAC, CHEAPEST SOLUTION IS USB DAC.
ALSO MORE FUN CAN BE OBTAIN FROM IT..
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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Aug 7 2010, 11:15 PM)
Esi juli@ hard to find..ST is too $$..and tat Onkyo SE-200PCI also not worth for tat price.. Onkyo SE-90PCI maybe can try hunt for it but it level should be on par with hd2. but remember that ur song sources must be good as well ur speaker..
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i see.
lossless file like wav (16bit, 44.1khz) and ape (16bit, 44.1khz) is good enough right? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Aug 7 2010, 10:50 PM)
is there any card can turn evil to angel? dont joke la.. perharps i can suggest u listen or playing with hymns? I belive it bring u to God. Asus xonar stx overall is better than hd2 where i audit b4..in term gaming, asus more feature and my hd2 got compatible with some game (bsod) and cant use mic. doh.gif HD2 did better after changing the op. if really no budget and only concern about sound/music, ts can suggest try hd2 coz there are alot good review and i had point out it weakness as well..onkyo card maybe ts can risk urself and give us some review on it? blush.gif
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maybe you can try the WDM driver for via24 for windows7 .. probably the audiotrak's driver not really stable for windows7? i own a via24 controller soundcard as well and the new wdm driver (5.40f) is pretty stable so far (mine used to crash and BSOD like mad)
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QUOTE(vir___killer @ Aug 8 2010, 12:17 AM)
LOL.... THERE IS AN ANGEL...  MERGING TECHNOLOGY  Mykerinos-X.. WHICH I HEARD B4 WITH DAD AX24 REALLY BLEW ME UP.

MAY B ASUS DID PERFORM IN GAMING, BUT IN MUSIC IT IS STILL SOUND VERY DIGITAL EVEN MODED LOT.

I DO NOT RECOMMEND PPL TO SPEND MONEY ON INTERNAL SOUND CARD FOR ANALOG OUTPUT.
A COMPUTER MERELY CAN PERFORM WELL IN DIGITAL OUTPUT.

IF U WANNA SOMETHING REALLY MEANT FOR MUSIC THEN U MUST NEED A DAC, CHEAPEST SOLUTION IS USB DAC.
ALSO MORE FUN CAN BE OBTAIN FROM IT..
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Who cares, it sounds good to us cool.gif and why you keep mention branded parts?? I tot you hate them?
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Aug 8 2010, 12:54 AM)
Stop trolling, you are the only one who know nothing about Xonar cards. ST have CS2000 jitter reducer chip on the card, the crystal clock is still the same, not just the PCI to PCIe bridge.
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YEA... U ALMOST FORGOT, THANKS FOR REMIND.
BUT SAW COMPARISON, DID NOT SOUND MUCH DIFFERENCE.
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TROLL? HAHA


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QUOTE(dlyz @ Aug 8 2010, 10:19 AM)
Who cares, it sounds good to us  cool.gif and why you keep mention branded parts?? I tot you hate them?
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YES.. MOST OF IT..
BUT I DO LIKE MERGING, DCS, MEITNER, NAGRA AND MOST OF DSD ANALOG OUT WHERE U CANT FIND THE KITS IN EBAY...

HAHAHA, TAT IS REALLY CANT DIY. HEHE

HMMM, DAD AX24 ONLY MAKE ME SUPRISE WHEN PLAYING DXD AND DSD.....

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TS,did u plan to get a pair of speakers?
Otherwise u could go for dac/amp.
The Asus Xonar ST would be good.

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CHECK THE MAVERICK DAC!!!
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QUOTE(rxy @ Aug 8 2010, 03:20 PM)
TS,did u plan to get a pair of speakers?
Otherwise u could go for dac/amp.
The Asus Xonar ST would be good.
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prefer using headphone. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vir___killer @ Aug 8 2010, 03:23 PM)
CHECK THE MAVERICK DAC!!!
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you mean this? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Aug 8 2010, 05:19 PM)
you mean this?  biggrin.gif
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instead of mod from scratch like me, maverick would be easier for u.
u will have lot fun of music, when u have this...
in future u can mod something TOO!
After tat, u will be WOW!

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if u are into headphone,then perhaps dac/amp will suit you better.
yea,something like that in the pictures above.
or perhaps,you could spend the money you would spend on sc on another pair of headphone.
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QUOTE(vir___killer @ Aug 8 2010, 04:38 PM)
instead of mod from scratch like me, maverick would be easier for u.
u will have lot fun of music, when u have this...
in future u can mod something TOO!
After tat, u will be WOW!
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the vacuum tube inside got life span? unsure.gif
QUOTE(rxy @ Aug 8 2010, 04:58 PM)
if u are into headphone,then perhaps dac/amp will suit you better.
yea,something like that in the pictures above.
or perhaps,you could spend the money you would spend on sc on another pair of headphone.
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will put the budget in the future. brows.gif

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Aug 8 2010, 07:16 PM)
the vacuum tube inside got life span?  unsure.gif

will put the budget in the future.  brows.gif
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tube has life span for most small tube is about 10k hours usually go more.
for russian small tubes is different, 1khours, 3k hours also got..

would like to roll back my suggestion, maverick dac its not really a tube dac.
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QUOTE(vir___killer @ Aug 15 2010, 10:38 PM)
tube has life span for most small tube is about 10k hours usually go more.
for russian small tubes is different, 1khours, 3k hours also got..

would like to roll back my suggestion, maverick dac its not really a tube dac.
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haha, i see i see. smile.gif

 

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