Hi how do you compose songs?? Theres the vocal, guitar, bass, drum, keyboard, piano and so on...

Which one comes first? DO u start making a song by writing down the lyrics first, guitar tune, or drum beat or wat?

I want to know too. You can check the link below for some tips. I am also asking people there.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1512888/

know your style first. what kind of genre you want to write, pop? rock? jazz? dance?

then learn the flavours - how rock is played, how their chords are used, melody line, lyrics, etc.

then just compose. you can compose and arrange at the same time, but you can just imagine the arrangement and just strum guitar + singing. melody and chord should come together.

just like cooking, you must first determine which kind of food you want to cook (malay? chinese? indian? italian? french?), learn the way they cook, and ingredients (learn their flavous!). then start to create new stuffs...

Then where do u start? The drums, guitars or vocals or wat instrument comes first for the song idea?

You still dont get it eh TS.

First Genre
Second Flavour

Why you keep thinking about instrument?

Sorry im a little slow but dont get it.

For example i want to make a heavy metal music. Then wheres the starting point? Guitar making the tune of the music then develop from there? Sure it has to start somewhere right? All instrument cant play separately then combine will become rojak.

I am no expert Fifi. I am glad that we have people like Little Ice willing to share his knowledge. I noted from your openning thread you focus on instrument. After Little Ice posted you are still focusing on instrument. I tried to take your focus off the instrument, but you are still leading the focus back to it.

Although I am interested in composing, I not ready to compose yet because I do not know music theory. I am just learning it slowly and when I have what it take I have some idea to go about it. Let me ask you do you know how many categories are there under Metal? I suggest you make comprehensive study of the genre you want to compose before you even think of composing. I may be wrong maybe you have good music theory and is an expert in improvisaton but I am not and will take it in my own pace.

This post has been edited by faceless: Aug 6 2010, 11:55 AM

No im not an expert in anything. Ok then the focus is not in instrument. Then where do i start?

Listen to more songs on the genre you want to write. Compare the style from one favourite singer with another. Study first.

there're certain chord progression used by heavy metal, with scales like phrygians or the likes.

to learn the genre, before composing, you'll have to transcribe them. then you'll see what kind of scales, notes they used, and chord progressions. these are all the "flavours".

then, you can use the same chord progression you transcribed, lay down a new melody.

from there, you might experienced chords tak jalan, then you put some new chords.

as to which instrument to use, you need to know what are the typical arrangements - how rhythm guitars played, lead guitars, bass, drums. you don't need to lay them down first, you can always "imagine" them while you're composing. put down some chords first, then melody, as mentioned above.

heavy metal is not easy to compose or arrange unless you grew up listening to them and you know their flavours very well. start off with some standard rock, then hard rock, then explore heavy metals.

wow.. complicated... musicians are really not easy

Just take it easy. You dont expect to build rome in one day. One step at a time. There is no rush.

you'll need some musical sense and lot of music listenning before hand if you plan to write 1 song in the same day. but once you wrote your first songs, the next should be slightly easier.

well, different people tends to write songs differently, but the main stuff in music remains. the main chord progressions, tone, tempo, style etc.

to simplify a bit on what little ice wants to say, it's knowing what kind of music you like. get some chords progression, and imagine the progression and nail the melody. if you can't imagine the progression, it's always good to use instruments,i normally use guitar, sometimes piano. the melody might need to be enhanced here and there to suite the lyrics that you want to put in.

there are also people who wrote the lyrics first before coming out with melody. that'd be slightly different feeling of composing.

ya, arrange song arrange until i want to vomit.
the melody and idea just don't come out.
you play any instrument?

yup i play 1 instrument. Youre a professional composer? Where u working?

writing metal songs... erh, it's all about trial and error. generally when it comes to writing music, it's all about how does it sound to your ears.

the first song you'll write will be your proudest, albeit quite distasteful and incoherent. as you write more songs, you'll improve. trust me on this, i've been there. and when coming to write metal songs, don't try to over complicate things. complicated doesn't mean it's good, unless you have a very well written melody.

for me, i usually write my guitar parts first, which comes from random brainstorms.. then i'll develop it and arrange it to sound coherent and to my taste and liking. bass and drums i'll try to do something that suits the part

amyways good luck, i wanna hear the end product of your ideas

This post has been edited by finalzz: Aug 6 2010, 04:12 PM

hah this is why im a bedroom guitar player, covering songs only
in fact, it is not my main committment, just as a hobby only

i have endless respect for those making music that i love
they're really a God's gift

If more people know about the difficulties in writing songs they will start appreciating the talent of bands more and not go for piracy

oops, i m not a professional.
it is just my hobby, i will do it when i m free.
what instrument are you playing?

aiyah... just bantai only la... if drummer starts a random drum, try to play something on the guitar if you're the guitarist according to his drum beats. if u all think it's cool, play again then record it down so u don't forget. well, at least that's what i do with my band. some1 will have to start, don't care who start 1st.

sometimes the bassist has a cool groove. then u just work from there on. sometimes the vocalist has some tunes in his head. again work from there on.

hope this helps. good luck!

i play drum. Wow your hobby is composing songs? That damn cool... ANy sample? WHat instruments do u play?

wow, cool, girl drummer.
it is just one of my hobby, but i seldom do that,
since have to squeeze out the idea until headache.
so only when the feel come, i only start to arrange songs.

i play drum too. and i m using guitar to find chords... and those melody things..

wow u play drum and guitar? so talented. Then whatkind of genre u play or compose?

hmm, not so talented la, since quite a number of people know at least 2 types of instrument.
i usually work on pop and rock, but is not expert one la, just very surface things.

being able to master 1 instrument is diffuclt enough... beside splitting the time for each instrument u still need to do your own work.

You're just humble

actually haven't master those instrument la.
keep on practise is the only way.
you play drum since when?

play drum since last yr... whats your main instrument? how long u beeen playing gutiar n drum?

i see.
i start to learn guitar and drum in almost the same time,
around 7 years ago.
didn't specify which one is main la,
since they have different usage.
in song arrangement,
i use drum to create the song's beat feeling,
and use guitar for the melody line...

wow 7 yrs must be damn good already. WHat makes u start them same time? KInda weird to start 2 intrument the same time.

haha, but i haven't master them la, although is already 7 years story.
because within this 7 years, i didn't practise much also.
so without practise, 7 years also not a big deal.

about start to learn 2 instruments together,
have to recall back the time when i were in form 6.
that time i m interested to play drum first,
then a music club there offer a guitar class in the same time,
then ma go learn also.

my hobby too~ haha tetiba excited

muh latest song.



if its not your cup of tea..im sorry

wow u compose songs also? Nevermind my cup or not. Can compose song itself is already an achievement not everybody can do.

what songs you usually listen?
chinese songs? english songs? or other songs?

usually, its either the melody comes first, or the chord bringing the melody.

the compose music, to me, the most important thing we need its inspiration.

Chord progression plays a huge part, to create a good song, you must first understand how the chords play.

well, composing comes by heart, but its always fun to learn how to compose starting with this simple progression

:C AM F G

sing to ur self.. + humming.. there's alot of places that can let out ur music instincts.. inside ur bedroom? shopiing mall area? music store? muzium? park? washroom? beach? sometimes.. even while driving to work.. xD

As BelowAverage post starting with C Am F G is a good start
=================================================================
here are some sample:
a C is

E|--0---| 1st String
B|--1---| 2nd String
G|--0---| 3rd String
D|--2---| 4th String
A|--3---| 5th String
E|--X---| 6th String

try press it this way
its still a C but i dunno what this "C" is called but really nice

E|--3---| 1st String
B|--3---| 2nd String
G|--0---| 3rd String
D|--2---| 4th String
A|--3---| 5th String
E|--X---| 6th String

or
i also dunno what its called but it still a "C"
E|--8---| 1st String
B|--8---| 2nd String
G|--0---| 3rd String
D|--0---| 4th String
A|--7---| 5th String
E|--8---| 6th String
=================================================================

Am
E|--0---| 1st String
B|--1---| 2nd String
G|--2---| 3rd String
D|--2---| 4th String
A|--0---| 5th String
E|--X---| 6th String

Am7? im not so sure
E|--3---| 1st String
B|--1---| 2nd String
G|--0---| 3rd String
D|--2---| 4th String
A|--0---| 5th String
E|--X---| 6th String

or
dunno what it is called but the sound still similiar to "Am"
E|--8---| 1st String
B|--8---| 2nd String
G|--0---| 3rd String
D|--7---| 4th String
A|--7---| 5th String
E|--0---| 6th String
==================================================================

F
E|--1---| 1st String
B|--1---| 2nd String
G|--2---| 3rd String
D|--3---| 4th String
A|--X---| 5th String
E|--X---| 6th String

or
dunno what kind of "F" does this called
E|--0---| 1st String
B|--1---| 2nd String
G|--0---| 3rd String
D|--2---| 4th String
A|--2---| 5th String
E|--X---| 6th String

or
=.= "F" bla blaa bbllaaaaa
E|--8---| 1st String
B|--8---| 2nd String
G|--0---| 3rd String
D|--7---| 4th String
A|--8---| 5th String
E|--X---| 6th String

=====================================================================

G
E|--3---| 1st String
B|--0---| 2nd String
G|--0---| 3rd String
D|--0---| 4th String
A|--2---| 5th String
E|--3---| 6th String

G hmmm.. dunno
E|--3---| 1st String
B|--3---| 2nd String
G|--0---| 3rd String
D|--0---| 4th String
A|--2---| 5th String
E|--3---| 6th String

Also a "G" from... dunno whats the name called
E|--7---| 1st String
B|--8---| 2nd String
G|--7---| 3rd String
D|--9---| 4th String
A|--x---| 5th String
E|--X---| 6th String
=======================================================================

btw.. pardon me.. im no chord expert..
MOTTO : press frets and find a sound 1st.. then chord name? i dun giv a damm.. xD

wow..
did not expect that..btw curently have 5 songs..hahaha..
cos i started this hobby last month..
should i post all of them in youtube? kinda shy that the songs would sux..

post one song u feel is the best 1st

haha, these 2 chords are called Cadd9.

i dotn understand cuz cannot play guitar. izzit only know guitar then only compose song?

not necessary use guitar only la.
you can use keyboard or piano as well, and even violin.
most important, you have the melody come out.
you can record the melody.
but when in the stage of finding chords,
you have to know about music la.

nope. it doesn't matter what instrument u play.. just take acapella as an example.. not a single instrument involve
to compose a song.. u need to know how ur mood/emotion was.. happy? sad? angry? and like i post earlier..

It is hard to compose when you only play drums. It has no notes. You should pick up another instrument. Your first instrument is always the hardest. Once you know your notes you can play any instrument easily.

i c.. so drummers are not the right people to compose songs right. Then in a song they just play according to wat composers want?

I say it is hard. I did not say not suitable. Phil Collins is a drummer cum composer that I respect. In this case the composers play according to Phil's drum pieces

This post has been edited by faceless: Aug 9 2010, 11:25 AM

Oh i see.. I always thought that a song in a band is created by all the members. Like someone come out with a song idea and then the separate members like the guitar,bass, drum try create a tune fit for the song. Rupanya is one guy do every thing

It can be from a single composer or the whole band too. It's subjective, there are many ways to write a song.

I think you should read the link to aonther thread I gave your earlier. Little Ice had share his experience on who does what in comming up with a song.

I realllly wanna try experience making a song then will get to feel how its like. ANyone here interested? Make together

if ur female tag genuine one, then im sure many LYN buayamusician will willing to help u

what type of songs you plan to compose?

maybe can start to learn using some software to compose song.

not genuine then nobody will help? y so sexist 1?

any song also can.. just 1 to testing

software? i tot together try create song like in a band

oh, i mean using software if you have to compose alone la.
since 1 people cannot play all the instruments together in the same time.
it is great since you have a band.
but prepair recording instrument.

i dun haf band. I just 1 try compose song. LIke maybe saturn bro can think of a song idea then i help do the drum part, and others help think the other part. Ayoh i oso dunno how la.. nevermind

you must at least have some instrument basics and theory knowledges to get you going. asking forumers to "compose" together most likely will end up "everybody compose for you"...

haha, because different people got different idea.
let say i write the melody and chords first.
pass to you, then you fill in the drum.
after that pass to bassist, maybe the bassist got other idea on bass that cannot match your drum beat.
pass to guitarist, and he strum his own style.
pass to keyboardist, and he also play his own style.
finally, whole song become a mess.

EDIT: nevermind...

This post has been edited by little ice: Aug 9 2010, 06:58 PM

hahaha! thanx saturn85 bro. i nvr knew dat! mayb i'll tabbed down a few more chords.. so we all can learn xD thanx again!

fifi85: wish u best of luck on composing songs

haha, some references for you:
http://www.chordie.com/chords.php

I find a lot of people here can play one or 2 instruments extremely well (esp. guitar and piano) but don't have any clues on how is a song being actually produced. No offence but lots of those people still think that a song is produced via those Beatles era way. People are not aware and taking the advantages from the advancement and accessibility of studio/ mastering/ computer/ DAW + virtual instruments etc etc to produce better music. Instead, their mind are still stuck with producing local church quality music (no offence, but i mean like gather a few people and find a keyboardist, guitarists, a drummer, a bassist) and think that they can start "composing" and "selling" music. That's sad because after decades after the Beatles era, we're still making those thing they'd call "songs" and I'd call "very very rough demos"...

to be frank, some composers who just compose a song for the sake of making money really ruin the word compose itself..technology, instrument & etc is not the point to compose a real song, instead the song must have it soul..it must have the intention, meaning and relations with anything so that people who listen to it can relate..

better/ advanced tools doesnt guarantee u a better song..

Better technology and gears doesn't guarantee better music, but if you choose to ignore them you're most definitely not going anywhere far. I'm referring this to people who plays a bit of instrument and think they're making music already. They're actually making very rough demos. I'm talking about grabbing all the available technology and techniques to equip yourself with the ability to compose, create and produce studio quality music.

Let me put this in a simple way - if you record a demo with guitars, keyboard, drums, bass, and maybe some strings, plus the vocals (the typical local way), and send it to any A&R guy, it's rather hard to stand out from all those demos that they're receiving each day, unless you've got a super wonderful melody and they'll buy it and get someone else to produce it. And if you've got the same great melody, but nicely recorded and arranged in the proper DAW/ sequencer with the proper production techniques and effects, sounds, samples, etc etc, it's a lot more likely that people would buy your demo. It's not really that expensive (of course, relatively) to produce such studio quality stuffs at all, just that most people choose to ignore it.

I'll give you an example - the late 90's and early 2000's were the era when Cheiron Music of Sweden conquered the whole pop music scene (I'lll leave you to do the research). I'm not saying that they're making the greatest music in the world, but this is the example that I've always tell people. The reason they're so successful was because, well of course, some nice hooky melodies, but most importantly, top quality production. They'd always send demos that are very near to the final mix and they only needed the recording artists to provide their vocals on top of it. Once they've got the vocals ready, the music is always ready for sale. If they started out making rough demos with simple piano and guitar strummings, basic drums and strings, it's almost impossible for their demos to have got noticed by big artists, because at the end of the day, the labels would know that these are rough demos that they'd still need someone else to fully produce and arrange it to become what'd be the final sound and final mix.

I'll give you another example - RedOne, also from Sweden, recently kinda popular for having produced and sell records for Lady Gaga (Just an example, not that I liked his music or song, but let's just focus on the process), arranges and produces his composition on his Logic Pro almost entirely on his Mac (of course he does have a decent studio with decent hardware) and get the final sound ready before bringing them to Gaga, who'd later on meet him up somewhere in a NYC studio and get the vocals done in a day or two, and get the rest of the minor parts done and mastered there. Same goes for David Guetta, and actually most producers in the Western.

Well I guess if you're too stuck with playing live band music then you probably won't get what I mean. I know...

This post has been edited by denis_t: Oct 1 2010, 09:46 AM

and yet you quoted me...

by the way, technology is killing this music industry.

How did technology kill the industry? Take away the creativity?

i won't elaborate, but to answer your question - yes. technology can take away creativity, very dangerously easily...

Denis,
It seems to me like to me like you are advising against using the old formula of the Beetles era. Yet now you are advocating the use of a decade old formula (Cheiron Music, Lady Gaga ..) to be the way to go. I wonder how long will this formula hold. Lets just say this becomes the new standard (everyone do near final quality), will it still not come down to creativity skills?

This post has been edited by faceless: Oct 1 2010, 03:07 PM

Well, I understand what you mean. So we have to look at labels as companies which sell products. They sell music as products, so we must give them great production that sells for sure, they wants something which is ready to go and dont want to waste resources to reproduce the a crappy demo, they could save a lot of money from this.

But one thing is labels now seem prefer same sounding music. The music we hear nowadays is pretty much the same, artists and bands has slowly losing their identical and creativity, the artistry elements is getting removed easily from the art of music. Music is not an art anymore. We can easily DIY records in our bedroom since so many advance technology software and tools are available, but how many of us can record drum sound well, arranging well, mixing well....... How many unsigned band can actually achieve this on a technical level? Label probably wouldn't consider signing a band unless their album was recorded and ready. We can say that live band music and recording music is totally different thing.

no offense, but i don't accept your comparisons of live band musician who just kick start their journey in music independently with such an icon in Gaga..

Lots of demo was produce under free labels, with no sponsor in terms of funds, resource and idea. Probably not a masterpiece, but all the hard works put into the effort of producing a song should be recognized as well.

I mean we talked about composing a song here, in fundamental what is the definition a song. I condone the use of technology, but without proper arrangement & intention..it will just be another song. Period.

little ice is damn right - technology can take away creativity! I remember there's an era, probably the 2006- 2008 in the EDM scene, especially in trance music where technology suddenly became so accessible and everyone started producing music that sounded very similar, using the very same samples, presets, effects, etc etc and the whole trance scene just suddenly became so repeatitively boring..people didn't event bother to create something different.

The accessibility to all sort of technology also means that more crap music willl not be filtered and got into the music industry. Suddenly everyone just became music producers.

@la bella - I don't quite understand what you're trying to say (sorry, haven't been able to sleep since the past 30 hours) but I know you're quite right in all those things you said!

@hidzwan - I agree with all the stuffs you said. I never denied the importance of the fundamental of a great song. I was just suggesting that it's a very helpful plus if you could produce a ready to go and up to standard demo. Of course they're still bands in the US who can write really great music but can't produce everything by themselves, but they don't just stop there, coz these people would usually have their stuffs nicely produced in the end by hiring experienced producers instead of being happy with those very "live band performance" standard records.

Hi, I want to start composing songs for myself, so I need songwriters who are experienced in composing music that could discuss with me regarding the styles of music I want to create a new song together...I'm experienced in music but not composing T_T

Interested please email me: jasminensy@hotmail.com

or reply to this thread >_<..

Are you looking for people who is at the same location with you so can meet up or can do it through internet?

Im interested as well but have no experience. Wanna learn.

to learn composing, the procedures are:

1. copy a song, completely. learn how and why they use the chords, and melodic approach.

2. vary the melody a bit, see if you can come out with something nice.

3. compose a new melody line, out of maybe 4 bars, 8 bars, or whole verse, or whole song.

4. vary the chords a little, see if you can come out with something make sense.

5. come out with a chords progressions, and compose new melody for it. start with 4 bars, then 8, and so on until you're able to compose a whole song.



style of music need a lot of analyzation and see what kind of chords and melody line normally used. you said you have experiences in music so you should be able to understand those theory and harmony studies.

don't confuse composing and arranging, they're different. composing is just melody and chords, arranging is to put in intro, interlude, outro, and decide how piano/drums/bass/guitars/etc play in the particular song - it's like composing, but the purpose is to enhance the song.

If like that then I feel arranging is easier than compose la. Compose need very fresh ideas for melody and other stuff. Every song need new melody and stuff.

Arrange even different song got same arrangement but different melody will sound different.

AM I right, sifu?

this.ia.a.ball>>Erm I'm fine with both meeting ups or online..I just need a little guidance and help actually >_<

little ice>>thanks for the comment. Yes, I have a grd8 music theory and I know how to compose classical music. What I'm not sure is like what you say, the arranging of music. Therefore I think I need a songwriting partner to start up composing and arranging an entire song with me...

Are both of you interested?~

you'll learn so much more if you DIY.

Little ice,

How about making a demo for composition, to what extend does the song requires arranging? Complete drum/vocal/fine tuning?

record the vocal as good as possible is essential, for the purpose of properly present the lyrics and melody, you're selling the compositions.

regarding arrangement, there're demos as simple as guitar + vocal. as long as you presented all the lyrics and melody, it's fine. even if doing full arrangement, usually it's not going to be full arrangement, just basic rhythm sections and maybe a layer of extra strings or synths etc.

there's no rules, actually. it's determined by your effort - if you put in more effort into your demo, the chance of selling your song (whether to labels or simply release it publically) is higher. but then, there're also hits that're just piano+vocal or guitar+vocal...

litleice, can u help us?

Im not in Malaysia so cant meet up hope can get online lesson

i tot i given my lessons already? at post #3 and #6...

oh like that only.. Haha..

K then time to practical. How should we start? Or like u said is only individual thing cant learn together 1?

what you can learn in formal lessons are theory and harmony studies. so far i haven't come across any music center offer extensive harmony studies, only college/uni offering those classes. then, you can find teachers teaching classical theory anywhere.

then, what you can learn through online tutorial, or even by RTFM, is how to operate DAW and how to sequence midi. so you don't need to deal with writting scores.

idea making is highly personal, in the music scene, people only exchange ideas (and rarely one-way-share) and learn from each others. you won't learn much from a formal lessons apart from those very basic things like song structure, common chord progressions, phrasing, etc, which you can probably find enough free tutorials online, or even just analyze the song.

how to start? look at post #3 again.

it's the same with arrangement - copy, vary, arrange partial content, and do a completely new arrangement.

Thanks for all the tips given little ice, I sorta understand how it works already. The thing I want to ask is, how do I arrange a song and make it into a music, lets say adding drums and all (besides going to a studio). Is there a software that helps?

sounds like u need to get a band together rather than trying to do everything.

it's called DAW, digital audio workstation, e.g. Reaper, Cubase, Pro Tools, Logic, SONAR, and many more. can record audio and work with midi.


DIY alone is common enough. although more brains more ideas, also often means more argument.

Thanks for the advice. Looks like I really need to find a vocalist for my demo... My dry voice is horrible... ...

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Added on May 30, 2011, 4:58 pmBy the way, what are the possible channel to "expose" my demo?
e-mail to record label/put it up on the forum/etc?

This post has been edited by Stevenc89: May 30 2011, 04:58 PM

writing technique is very subjective..
getting a partner wont mean you will become a better writer although sometimes it is..
no one can teach you how to write,just like no one can teach you to be a better painter.they can just teach you how to paint.how good you become depends on your talent..

most A & R rep (this is the person you send your demos to at music label) have an ear for good songs..they dont usually care how good or bad you sing..their job is to recognise good song and if your song is good then it doesnt matter if you sing like chipmunk..a demo with just vocal is fine,although this is usually accompanied by instruments..its easier to write if you can play instruments..(this is if you are a songwriter,not a singer)

if your song is recognised and you get signed,its not your job to turn the song into a great song, its the producer's job (great producers such as timbaland,david foster,diane warren)..producers have this talent of turning a simple song into the best they can sound...say you send a demo of a song played with a single piano and vocals,this producer will then think of the bass line,guitar leads,piano leads,drum beat,tempo and etc....

Thanks for the info, now I have a clearer picture of songwriting as well as demo production. : )

Hey guys,

I've completed my very first demo song
But is it safe for me to straight away send it to any music label? Or do I have to file it for copyright first?
By the way, if I uploaded the song to any forum or my website, will music label still "accept" the song because it has been exposed to the public?

this is when it gets very tricky..i aint very sure about copyright,but you wont be able to get your song 'copyrighted' unless you are signed...music publishers will get your songs copyrighted if you are signed to them..as an individual,i dont believe any law in malaysia will allow you to get your song copyright/published..

so which means you are not protected and wont be able to get your song copyrighted unless you are signed to a publisher..and it is not easy getting signed to a publisher..getting signed to a publisher is the first step to becoming a professional song writer..once signed,you get paid for your work..

but i have not heard of any publisher/music label stealing songs from demo send in by song writer...so i think its quite safe to do so..and lets just say your song is very very good,i would think they rather sign you up for your potential rather than steal 1 song from you...

many individuals upload their original songs to youtube..this is a way to protect yourself because there is a record of the date your songs is uploaded which means you are the original writer..and music labels cant steal your song because the public have listened to your composition and there would be witnesses to it..i have heard people getting signed from music labels by posting their music on the net,but not sueing the music labels for stealing their ideas...

So the keyword for copyright in music industry is getting signed right?
I never thought of it and I think its impossible for me XD

As a youtube user, people did ask for my permission to use my music in their short film/project... I don't really mind but Im not really sure whether it offer a good protection or not...

Anyway, thanks for the reply. I think I might upload it on the net.

if someone is going to use your work for his/her own benefit and get payment from it, you are entitled to a percentage of that payment..this very much depends on the agreement between both parties..

depends on what u are comfortable with.