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post Mar 16 2011, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 16 2011, 03:56 PM)
How do u check whether this ssd is 34nm version? Thanks.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ocz-ve...ssd,2867-2.html
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post Mar 16 2011, 06:11 PM

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I'd consider Kingston SSDs.

Cons:
Not high performance

Pros:
Slightly larger capacity than the competition (it should be about 59.6GiB, but I can't confirm)
Cheaper

Those marketed as 60GB SSDs will have about 55.87GiB of capacity. OCZ's 25nm 60GB SSDs will have 51.22GiB of capacity.
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post Mar 16 2011, 09:10 PM

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I think there's nothing extraordinary in the RM750-RM800 range at this time. If you wait for the Vertex 3 to arrive, things might change. Otherwise, pick what you fancy.
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post Mar 19 2011, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(mafiamei @ Mar 18 2011, 10:11 AM)
What is the budget SSD now for a >100gb size?
Heard Intel 120gb SSD not bad right?
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Current retail SSDs costing less than RM1K, larger than 100GB and ordered by cost/GB. Not guaranteed to be a correct or complete list.
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Name                Company     Capacity    Read    Write   Cost    Cost/GB     Dimension   Date

Kingston V          Viewnet     128         200     110     599.00  4.68        2.5"        2011-03-13
Kingston SV100-S2   PC Zone     128         250     230     699.00  5.46        2.5"        2011-03-18
Kingston V 100      Viewnet     128         250     230     699.00  5.46        2.5"        2011-03-13
Intel X25-M         Viewnet     120         250     100     699.00  5.83        2.5"        2011-03-13
Mushkin E.C.DLX     C-Zone      120         285     275     749.00  6.24        2.5"        2011-03-12
OCZ Vertex 2        C-Zone      120         285     275     749.00  6.24        2.5"        2011-03-12
Corsair F120        PC Zone     120         285     275     749.00  6.24        2.5"        2011-03-18
Corsair F120        Viewnet     120         285     275     749.00  6.24        2.5"        2011-03-13
OCZ Vertex 2        Viewnet     120         285     275     749.00  6.24        2.5"        2011-03-13
Corsair F120        C-Zone      120         285     275     769.00  6.41        2.5"        2011-03-12
Kingston V 100      Viewnet     128         230     180     839.00  6.55        1.8"        2011-03-13

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post Mar 20 2011, 12:51 AM

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Personally, now is a very uninteresting time to buy SSDs. If you don't mind waiting, better to wait for Intel's G3 and the next generation of SandForce controllers (eg: Vertex 3) to shake up the market.
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post Mar 21 2011, 04:25 PM

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Wouldn't the 160GB be cheaper, hovering around RM1k?
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post Mar 21 2011, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Mar 21 2011, 04:32 PM)
i was hoping for a RM400 80GB G3...... cry.gif
Now my i'm left with either the F60 or the 80GB G2 cry.gif
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Yeah, there is that. G1 to G2 was a 50% price drop. This isn't remotely near.

QUOTE(Racerx @ Mar 21 2011, 05:23 PM)
bro,i wanna ask something,the X-18M G2 uses a SATA or microSATA connector actually?
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It's micro-SATA.

QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 3 2011, 08:19 PM)
microSATA to SATA adapter is available now for FOC.  thumbup.gif
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post Mar 24 2011, 03:14 PM

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Other than the somewhat low 4K read/write, it seems quite fine. I wouldn't bother reinstalling.
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post Mar 25 2011, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(mafiamei @ Mar 25 2011, 10:20 AM)
What is the budget SSD around 80gb to recommend for a first time user?
Still Intel?
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Kingston has a 128GB SSD going for RM599 at Viewnet. Was quoted RM585 if paid in cash. Old technology and slower, but it still has 44GiB more than any 80GB SSD, will still outperform a Velociraptor with ease and has one of the best price/GB ratio.
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post Mar 25 2011, 03:58 PM

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The warranty issue is likely to be a misunderstanding or an outright lie.

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By my understanding, yeah, no manufacturer warranty. Those RM700++ 160GB wouldn't last an hour in the garage sales if they still had their 3 years warranty, as the only difference would be them going for 50% of retail price.


Added on March 25, 2011, 4:06 pmYou should query the seller to be clear on the warranty issue.

As for improvement, yes, there will be a clear improvement. But will it be enough to justify the cost? It depends on you.

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post Mar 29 2011, 11:54 AM

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Intel likes to maintain its 65% profit margins so even though it makes the NAND and the controller in the 320, we're unlikely to see these drives drop below competitive pricing.

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For an architecture that debuted in 2008, Intel's controller certainly has legs but it's time for something new - particularly if Intel isn't going to aggressively discount these mainstream drives.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4244/intel-ssd-320-review

A rather bland SSD made less interesting by lack of competitive pricing. sad.gif

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Looks like about 1 in 250 X-25M SSDs fails for some reason or another.

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Mar 29 2011, 01:33 PM)
I'm not sure about the smaller ones, but the 300GB version is quite price competitive. It's about the same price as the X25-M 160GB when it launched a year and a half ago, and slightly more than the 256GB drives in the market.

For my workstation, I'd consider the promise of reliability more important than I would consider some extra 10,000 IOPS or 100MB/s which I can't notice under workstation use anyway.
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You're quite right. I had misread the MSRP. It's not a 50% drop, but it is still much cheaper per GB than the competition.
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QUOTE(Hawaiiii @ Apr 1 2011, 10:43 PM)
yes it is not detected by the bios, guess i have to try on my laptop sad.gif
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Just checking, you are using the MicroSATA adaptor, right?

QUOTE(chaics85 @ Apr 1 2011, 10:51 PM)
guys.. i'm extremely new in ssd.. interested in mushkin callisto 60gb because its in brushed alu. cover.. is the performance good??
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If it is uses a SandForce controller of the same generation as the Vertex 2, then it will have a similarly good performance.

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post Apr 4 2011, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 4 2011, 12:55 PM)
Intel 320 Series SSD 160GB at USD250, izzit a good price?
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The initial MRSP for that is USD289. It is a good price.
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Does anyone know if the Intel 160GB SSDs have any spare area or over-provisioning? If they're using 16GB chips and there are only ten of them, the SSDs have a maximum of 160GB capacity. Converting that 160GB into GiB gives me 149GiB, which is the stated user capacity. There isn't any inaccessible capacity for over-provisioning.

Compare that with the 300GB SSDs, which have twenty chips and thus 320GB, meaning 20GB is inaccessible.

It seems to me that the 160GB, and the 80GB by the same logic, doesn't have any over-provisioning. But I haven't been able to find literature to confirm it.



Added on April 4, 2011, 6:56 pmSilly me. The NAND chips were 16GiB and not 16GB. Problem explained.

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 4 2011, 09:16 PM)
Can you expalin about NAND chips?
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I'm not sure what exactly you'd like me to explain about.

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Intel sent a 300GB version of the 320 for us to take a look at. Internally the drive has 20 physical NAND devices. Each NAND device is 16GB in size and features two 64Gbit 25nm 2-bit MLC NAND die. That works out to be 320GB of NAND for a drive whose rated capacity is 300GB.

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The ten big black chips pictured here are the 16GB NAND chips.

And of course, Anand had to point out that they are 16GB chips and not 16GiB chips. 64Gbit = 64,000,000,000 bits = 8,000,000,000 bytes = 8GB. And there are two NAND dies per chip, so each chip is 16GB = 16,000,000,000 bytes.

So, I'm back to square one on understanding what is the spare area of the 80GB, 128GB and 160GB SSDs, all multiples of 16GB (or 8GB if we're going by the 3Xnm Flash), because they don't have enough spare area to be used as spare areas.
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post Apr 6 2011, 09:38 PM

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Larger capacity is far more important than performance. brows.gif
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post Apr 9 2011, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(harryfoo @ Apr 9 2011, 12:31 PM)
Guys, if I want to buy a SSD for my desktop as a booting disk, which brand you guys recommend?
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OCZ for performance, Intel for reliability and Kingston for cheaper capacity.

QUOTE(Hawaiiii @ Apr 9 2011, 03:45 PM)
below are my ssd test report, is it normal???
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Looks quite ordinary for an Intel G2 160GB. smile.gif
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post Apr 18 2011, 05:15 PM

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Viewnet's updated price list now lists a Vertex 3 120GB and Intel's Series 320 SSDs. Intel's 300GB is going for RM1,799 and the 160GB for RM1,099.

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