you guys talk make me @@

some days i really want to watch u all play liao.

yeap this is how i do it. when it become mature, obviously both party need to be on equal level of skill and 50% 50% chance for both like marine tank vs muta ling.

i think blink stalker will f*** up noober opponent really well...as mothership recall and warp prisms can be shut down via turrent ring. (lol BW turrent ring) well for player who play BW b4, its exactly the same concept other than vulture mine become cloak banshee and now you have wonder ghost. vulture run by and just turtle until 200/200 +2+2 and a move to win.

and i realize, mech need more hotkeys, its quite micro demanding for a 1TA terran like me. ghost emp, raven pdd, banshee cloak, sinege tank siege focus, snipe obs, hellion kite...and cloak banshee + snipe obs is the key in sc2 mech tvp because if both player trade army evenly. lets say 200/200 to 120 each, protoss can just warp in 15 zealot and eat up ur small mech count at home. mech will only shine in larger numbers. so you can use ur cloak banshee to buy time, let opponent cant attack you right away. they need to wait for new obs to come out.
and i just realize obs got the lowest attack priority o0o so you must individually click on it.

i wanna see evofantasy play, he got so many strategy lol

well goody is lol. but then he is a good example, wif his awfully low apm, he can only be a pro because he play mech...as in, mech gives you the furthest edge if you know how to play it well. it has the lowest apm requirement most of the time. *i think*

multiprong attack like WP will be useless after u secure 3 base with sensor tower and turrent rings. (other than blink stalkers) and ur only mobile army is hellion which dont do well against stalker.....owh well, you just need to survive till 200/200, flash style.

a 3 base turtle style map is important. like a tight triangle. and preferably can put PF at choke point. maps like bel shir beach is mind f*** for mech.

a problem im still pondering with is the instant tech switches. after an engagement, if he cleared my ravens, then he will warp in stakler, if he cleared most of my hellions, he will warp in stalkers. so cloak banshee is still the key.

my playstyle is inspired  by villeillusion. check his stream to learn more lol. he play mech tvp every game.

juz finished watching the blizzard cup final..
damn cool i muz say .. especially the match 7 part..

do u know who is this? she is prof sc 2player

wat the fcuk man.......... the division placement for season 6... some dude tried to probe rush me, and i defended and win. then the next thing i know i entered bronze league.

its so unfair to judge me based on one game like that!! T_T...

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Added on February 21, 2012, 12:39 amfyi the guy i beat is from gold league.

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Added on February 21, 2012, 12:40 amwtf kena troll on division placement

terran with 1 bunker on top of ramp and scv repair can NEVER lose to a 4 gate all in IMO....

p/s ok you might die if his 1st push got includes 2 sentry to block repair....but its very unlikely, i encountered once

how to defend a 4 gate all in with ANY build.

1) when you scout him. check how many mana left in his nexus. this is like the easiest way to scout for a 4 gate. your scv can stay in his base until he make a stalker. see how he use his chronoboost. if he used all on his nexus to make probe, he is giong to 1 gate FE, if he use it on gate and core, and still have extra energy saved up, its a push incoming.

2) now leave his base b4 stalker is out (normal timing for stalker is 4.20~ ithink...4-4.20) hide your scv at his 3rd base or wherever you think he acnt find you. not watch tower, not outside his base, somewhere hidden.

3) make sure you make a bunker before 4.30 because stalkers are imba. they can eat marine all the long unless you have more than 1 barracks.

4) wait for his stalker to hit your base or 5 min mark, whichever come 1st. the hidden scv str8 go into his base. if it is a 4 gate all in, his base will have no unit, only 4 gates warping in. now you got a free scout. if you see sentry or a nexus, then you know a 4 gate push is not coming.

5) so its a 4 gate. put marines in your bunker, put scv behind to repair. seriously, if its a 4 gate, you just park your scv there, as long as you hold, theres no way you are going to lose. you can easily defend it with 1 rax FE or cloak banshee or anything. if you are playing 2-3 rax, just push out at around 5.30, if you can catch his outside pylon, you have a high chance of supply block him or even cancel his warp in. then he will left with 1 stalker 1 zealot raedy to gg. you can even push earlier and put bunker rush him. because a 4 gate is most vunerable when WG research is not complete

your choke is 2 depot 1 bunker? i had nvr had any problem defending 3 gate VR as long as after 1 rax FE i put 2 mroe rax right away. (some ppl put 2 gas 1st only 2 more rax) then constant marine production. actually by the time you put down the 2 mroe rax you must determine what build your opponent is going adi (actually earlier, the 2nd scv scout is damn important, you need to know what he is doing). if they didnt expand, hell no way am i going to make any stupid marauders. in early game defending rush, you dont need marauders, maybe 1 or 2 max. most important is still marine. because theres 3 dangerous all in that might come, 3 gate void ray, 3 gate immortal or 4 gate warp prisms. marines are good against VR and immortal but not marauders. with enough marines, you can hold it off easier. a ball of 25 marine + scv is much easier to hold than let say 6 marauder 8 marine and scv.

i rarely make marauder but when i make, i make sure he is going fast nexus and am planning to make a small poke.
to defend it with 1-1-1 is abit more tricky because you will not have enough marine and if your bunker go down you are gone. you need to stall until you make 1 viking out of your starport...im not very experienced with that but then 1 rax FE vs VR all in still come down to micro alot....i rmb once i forgot to cahgne back my race, on tal darim i got PvT i just 3 gate VR the terran and i just outmicroed him...like VR can come in go out along the ledge, marine cant hit you, when they commit, sentry down there put forcefield to trap, or even put forcefield let marine cant hit you while you charge on depot...alot of things can do but terran should micro properly too, not just 1A your way to victory....

if you know he is coming, as i said. park scv at bunker. worth it. you dont want to save that few secs of mining time and lose the game right. normally i will put 1 more scv just outside my base to see when he is camping outside my base. and when he is relaly coming, lower depot and put 2-3 scv in front of bunker to full surround repair.

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Added on February 22, 2012, 2:38 pm

as ian had said, dont rush to viking off 1 rax FE. just do heavy rax. (this is the only safe thing you can do after you scouted he is going to all in you) if you scouted expo nexus, then you can go ahead and take 2 gas off 1 rax. then plant factory starport etc....

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Added on February 22, 2012, 2:42 pm

yeah, recently protoss are doing so good is because of all these 2 base immortal sentry shits. T.T see ST parting. they can even fake a push and go for 3 base 8 gate timing T.T
anyway thats the 2nd stage of the game adi. in this stage. terran without medivac or ghost will just outright die IMO...and i personally prefer ghost over medivac in current trend of immortal sentry play. medivac play will really significantly drop your bio ball. ghost play can easily counter sentry immortal bust but the problem is you can only stim once or twice. thats way tooo risky but depends on user also. medivac is more user friendly....and marauders are really not that good in this point of time too...because of the 2-3 immortals..

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Added on February 22, 2012, 2:44 pmi personally thinks that timing you said kinda counters 3 rax reactor medivac play because of timing problem...the medivacs will just be too late....

terran's counter to that is 2 base 4-5 rax marine production, put techlab research combat shield and ghost academy. when p[ush reach, got 2 EMP ready, combat shield and stim.

二气低能量-隐刀；二气高能量-虚空；单气高能量-4bg，单气低能量-开矿 <--- advice for lower league players or simpler metagame.

even if u dun play protoss, watch combatex's PoV video with commentary...
he explain the though process where is fundamental for a sc2 player...
some of which u may know already but some u may not know...

for example, when i see a opponent is moving on the map, i'll patrol a zeal slighty in front of my army so i wont get caught out of position with a slower FF...
it also involve other decision making process like what to do when u are ahead, what to do when u are being, how to react etc...

jefffff i demand a rematch!!!

the direct cause of that victory is the constant ling runby. dual sight zerg has such absurd win rate is because theres 2 about same distance main route to opponent base, its (almost) impossible for terran to pressure or zone off both. for us lower leagues terran player, what i do is, i put a bunker next to the outer refinery (the direction ling will come) then put supply depot surrounding it. if the zerg just shift right click run by, he probably cant get anything because of AI control. (some good map to use is tal darim 3rd base, arid plataue 3rd base, metalopolis 3rd base these kind of stretch out 3rd base that have a direct route for zerg to run by and you cant siege up there)

for shattered temple inner 3rd base, i will put a bunker on top of the outer ramp, zerg can never break the rock. these things will work like wonder for us but for those korean pro, their micro and apm is much higher so they can save these 100 minerals.

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Added on February 23, 2012, 7:47 pm3rd time drg and genius meet in this season lol. ro32 ro16 and now finals lolololol

genius topped him both time including a fast 2-0 in ro32, can drg claim his 1st title?

anyway congratz team MVP, 2nd team manage to have a teamkill final since Nestea vs Losira.

they nvr met in ro16 despite being in the same group...
DRG to stay in the kong line imho

ah~~~ another tvt problem.. so hard.. my worst MU
http://replayfu.com/download/grnzkv

today...................only protoss won...other than ryung win a tvt.

ryung win tvt, then ogs vines (protoss) win 4 str8 game (including mma), slayers puzzle (protoss) came out as ace and win another 3 games. then inca vs puzzle ace match (pvp) -_____________________-

PROTOSS

thx alot~~ i will try to learn mech play more thx for the advice.. any specific player mech play is good to learn from??

oh kk~~ so i shud play custom game to train mech?? haha..

kinda agree on this (compared to what Jeff said)...

terrans are the easiest at the lowest level (mules, scans) being very forgiving and flexible but once u throw in multitasking with micro, they really go far far far...
a-moving with terran will get u decimated by a protoss/ zerg with decent mechanics...
one of the reason why i always love to watch mma and polt plays as i feel they really push terran to the max...

zerg is mostly jz mechanics which is hard at lower level...
at higher level, mechanics is not an issue...
the difference for me between top tier zergs and lower ones are the decision making...
this is the part i love most about DRG as he is never afraid to take risk...

ps: i still find nestea overrated as zerg... i dun put him as a top5 zerg at all... his wins always come down to him being greedy and not being punished or base trading =.="... even his championship runs which he does well are easy... when he is faced with a better player, he loses...

personally, i love playing terran due to their flexibility and mobility...
my mechanics are still much much much more polished with protoss though lolx...

i play bio only.....lol sometimes mix with a bit of tanks and banshee. almost never do bc b4