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post Sep 4 2010, 01:32 PM

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Hi all,

I’m Jason and I’m part of the Razer product team for the Razer BlackWidow.

We’ve been following this and related mechanical keyboard threads on various forums and on behalf of the team, I’d like to thank everyone for your interest in mechanical keyboards and the Razer BlackWidow in particular.

The community is very important to Razer and we’d like to do our best to address your needs and concerns. Over the past few weeks, we’ve seen a huge number of queries (and some misconceptions) that have been posted on this forum and we’re taking this opportunity to clear as much as we can before the first reviews start coming out!

Unfortunately, we won’t be able to monitor all the forums as much as we would like to but we’re definitely looking forward to hearing your feedback and any other suggestions that you may have for the Razer BlackWidow and our future mechanical keyboard products. I’ve appended my contact info below as I won’t be able to track this on a regular basis (so my apologies in advance for not tracking this thread regularly – I’ve tried to cover as many of the queries as possible) – feel free to reach out!
1. Why did Razer go mechanical? Because we’ve always had mech heads in the office as well as gamers calling for them – it took us a while because we went through several re-designs, but we think you’ll like what you see. The Razer BlackWidow will be the first line of mech keyboards that we will release.

2. What key switch is used in the Razer BlackWidow? To dispel all confusion once and for all – we use the Cherry Blues – and in our design process, we’ve got a pretty strict guideline on sorting of each switch, so it’s not just the Cherry Blues but those with a certain characteristic/tolerance guideline. So…they’re cherry-picked.  I can’t go into the tolerance/sorting guidelines but I can say that it provides for a different experience as opposed to a normal Cherry Blue switch keyboard.

3. OMFG/WTF/etc WHY THE BLUES INSTEAD OF THE [Insert your favorite color switch here] First up, they all cost almost the same – blues, blacks, reds, etc and we had tested all of the switches with multiple designs. So we picked the Blues intentionally from the get go. We went through a design cycle with each of the different switches and our ergo team together with our pool of pro gamers went through extensive validation of the Blues – we came up with 2 real conclusions, 1. It’s a question of preference of each user primarily and 2. There’s a lot of marketing bullshit and FUD out there about which color is better etc etc.

We finally picked the Blues over the others like the blacks after the testing/validation that we did over the past couple of years– the data was pretty clear to us. The biggest downside to the Blues was the sound – but the other features were huge winners – and the data we collated from hundreds of pro/amateur gamers indicated that the tactile and clicky Blues provided a significant advantage to the gamers as opposed to those that used other switches (though we wouldn’t recommend LAN centers to kit up on the Razer BlackWidows, it would drive everyone crazy). A few people here also brought up the release point of the blue switches being higher than the actuation point by a fraction of a millimeter requiring you to release it fully to ensure a re-actuation. This was also one of the issues that we had tested extensively internally with our test robots as well as with our pro-gamers and this was addressed as part of our design. The Blues do provide a better switch mechanism for gaming (although it depends on your preference at the end of the day too). Don’t take our word for it, give the Razer BlackWidow a go – you may just realize that you prefer the Blues at the end of the day.

4. Does the Razer BlackWidow have NKRO? We were the first in the world to push the limits of anti-ghosting when we released the Razer Tarantula gaming keyboard some 4 years ago, so we know how important this feature is for many gamers. However, we also balance this against the other features that gamers require. . Razer BlackWidow’s up to 6-key rollover gaming optimized key matrix serves a similar purpose for gamers who need anti-ghosting while using an ordinary USB port (as opposed to a PS/2 port). In addition, by using a USB connection the Razer BlackWidow is able to provide gamers advanced customization and performance features that are not available using a PS/2 connection, using Razer’s configuration software.

5. What were the key areas of design/engineering that make the Razer BlackWidow a mechanical gaming keyboard? We spent a lot of time on this – balancing some of the cool features that we wanted to put into the product vs making sure that we didn’t alienate users with a keytop scheme that would be too difficult to just jump into. The biggest challenge was primarily that from the get go – how to design the Razer BlackWidow to be as simple for the new user to use, to ease him into mech keyboards but also to provide the competitive advantage in game play.

Some of the key design features include our shifting of the F-key row from the traditional position to the right – just above the WASD cluster (F1 is above the W key). There are significant gaming ergo benefits to the same. We also included 5 additional gaming keys and did a significant study into the angle of the keytop to the desk surface ratio to ensure a uniform keystroke experience across all the keys during game play. A couple of other things include on-the-fly macro recording, gaming profiles etc, but our focus was to provide as many subtle changes as possible that may not seem evident at first glance but ultimately indispensable after a few hours of use.

6. Why are the function keys on the Razer BlackWidow shifted slightly more to the right? Our ergonomics team has made subtle changes to the placement of the keytop – while most of the placement of the keys have been retained to allow gamers to immediately get used to the key locations, we have shifted the F-key row to the right slightly to align the F1 key directly above the W of the WASD home keys. Extensive ergonomics tests have shown that this new alignment will allow faster keypress accuracy for games that require the use of the F-key row. Some slight adjustment will be required.

7. The Razer BlackWidow must be a cheapass, low quality piece of junk because it costs US$79.99 while other mech keyboards cost at least twice that! I insist on paying twice more! Well, due to the feedback, we have decided to increase the price to US$149.99 for the Razer BlackWidow.  (just kidding)

We find it really odd anyone can pass judgment on the quality before even getting their hands on one (just saying)– but the proof is in the pudding – wait for the first couple of reviews that should be out soon or try one out when we release it in the next couple of weeks.

Seriously, there’s really no reason for mech keyboards to cost a bomb. It just doesn’t make any sense and we didn’t see the need to peg an ultra-high price without any reason for it. The Razer BlackWidow was designed by a group of gamers internally (I was one of them) within Razer that championed the mech switches and we believe in propagating this to as many gamers out there without profiting unfairly off them.

Don’t take our word for it, wait for the reviews or better yet, try it out yourself. We’re big fans of the mechanical keyboard ourselves and we’re looking to get it into as many hands as possible – this is our one chance to make mech keyboard ubiquitous for gaming. The more we make, the better our next mechanical keyboard will be. We believe in this and we welcome as much feedback from the community as possible so that we can make a better product.

To get more updates and new reviews as they are posted, you can join our twitter feed at http://twitter.com/cultofrazer. Do join our Facebook fansite too at www.facebook.com/razer

If you represent an established review site and would like to do a review do reach out to me at jason.ark@razerzone.com. Kindly include information on your identity and the review website you represent and we’ll try to get you a review unit (no promises). We’ll try our best to answer every single email but I do have a day job and I’ll do what I can to get back to you if I can!
Quote from overclock.net. The razer had speak out something. biggrin.gif just share with everyone

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post Sep 7 2010, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(victor2212 @ Sep 7 2010, 11:42 AM)
Starcraft 2 gear pics, off facebook.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


looks like stainless steel instead of plastic.
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So is it a plastic made?
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post Sep 8 2010, 05:11 PM

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Guys, how long do you think blackwidow Ultimate individual backlit life span till?
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post Sep 8 2010, 08:45 PM

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Ok, wait after 2 years i will tell you. Maybe 6 months? Just ordered one and wait for it to arrive in Malaysia.
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post Sep 9 2010, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Sep 9 2010, 03:44 AM)
emailed razer..hope can get an answer from them

btw chiahau..regarding the orca..itz official to be release at end of this month? anyway, regarding the pricing? tongue.gif
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If im not wrong, it is around RM199


Added on September 9, 2010, 7:54 am
QUOTE(viruz019 @ Sep 9 2010, 03:44 AM)
emailed razer..hope can get an answer from them

btw chiahau..regarding the orca..itz official to be release at end of this month? anyway, regarding the pricing? tongue.gif
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If im not wrong, it is around RM199

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post Sep 11 2010, 01:01 AM

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wondering why Razer keep on pushing Blackwidow instead of bring up Razer starcraft 2 gear and Tron set? hmm.gif
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post Sep 11 2010, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 11 2010, 01:18 AM)
Coz Tron is a exclusive line and they wanna release it close 2 the movie date?
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sound reasonable. But how about Razer SC2 set?
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post Sep 15 2010, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 14 2010, 11:22 PM)
i know,  but im guessing its all parallel import sets...so yea buy at ur own risk.
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Nope, from ban leong, all local warranty. That i asked him and answered me. But he don't have any stock yet and need to wait from ban leong stock too.
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post Sep 15 2010, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Sep 15 2010, 10:19 AM)
from Ban Leong hmm.gif
but then why other famous sellers like hikari85, zhen^wei, ngbh etc belum advertise yet?
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Erm, ask i said, he still dont have the stock yet too, still need to wait for shipment, same goes with hikari and zhen wei. biggrin.gif
Gonna get Megasoma soon. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif


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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 15 2010, 10:37 AM)
U dont know old ppl say "1st come 1st win?" lingloong is reputable seller, he aint doing anything to screw his own reputation aye? Still waiting for spectre... Starcraft 2 out so long edi, why their gaming set havent out yet ......
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spectre is nice. IMO, it is too small for me. It is good for fingertips and claw grip players. rclxms.gif

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post Sep 15 2010, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 15 2010, 10:57 AM)
will it be much smaller than deathadder? Can u tell a similarly sized mouse to it?
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Of course it is smaller than DA. A huge size different somemore. tongue.gif

DA = 128 x 70 x 42.5mm

Spectre = 100 x 66 x 37mm
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post Sep 15 2010, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Sep 15 2010, 12:25 PM)
LOL. plastic coating?
user posted image

WOAHHHHHHHHHHHH  rclxm9.gif
found a website still selling DA Serious Gaming edition.
http://www.99hk.biz/
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HKD 3999 = RM1600 , a Series Gaming DA with this price? LoLx.
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post Sep 17 2010, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(leyley @ Sep 17 2010, 12:12 AM)
Buying from RazerZone will take how long normally for shipping icon_idea.gif
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1 week perhaps? Its gonna charge for shipping fees alot BUT you will get free Razer basic Messenger bag for hit $100 or more.

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QUOTE(victor2212 @ Sep 17 2010, 01:28 PM)
in the end i still chose fragged  tongue.gif , rm69 was good. whistling.gif
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Owh, u got a medium size Speed.
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post Sep 18 2010, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Lil Kiasu @ Sep 18 2010, 10:25 PM)
Don't care... Imma save up to get BW on next year's PC Fair~!  thumbup.gif
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Good choice. Wait the first batch be the white mouse test it first. Wait them figure it out what the issues of BW. brows.gif
I'm first batch user soon. laugh.gif

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post Sep 19 2010, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Sep 19 2010, 07:55 AM)
i still prefer 7g tactile surface
would not have any fingerprint on it easier to clean as well

haha got lot offtopic post as well
all about 7g
taito sota qck out of topic
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Don't be so lazy cleaning up your equipments. tongue.gif It wont take time. BW FTW. rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Sep 19 2010, 05:31 PM

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Anyone know is there any Copperhead or Diamandback still available and the price? I saw there are old stocks at Challenger IT Megastore. But i think the price will be crazy
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post Sep 20 2010, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Sep 20 2010, 12:08 PM)
Is the blackwidow worth to get it? any forumer have use it and how is it? plan to get 1, but insufficient knowledge on mechanical vs membrane thingy..
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It haven't release in malaysia yet...... So you will only got review from Everdying rclxms.gif
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post Sep 20 2010, 07:29 PM

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how long normally a RMA from distributor? My DA took more than 1 month ad still RMA-ing....
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post Sep 20 2010, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(yongkailoon @ Sep 20 2010, 09:10 PM)
Actually it's very difficult to say since there is no fixed time. I think fastest also 3-4 weeks. Since yours is taking quite long, perhaps give them a call to check?
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I sent my DA to RMA through retailer.
I did call the distributor for the end of the week 2 and help me to check whether my DA done or not, they said next week will be done. But now reach to week 5 ad. cry.gif
Scare will be anything bad happen
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post Sep 21 2010, 03:54 PM

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How do we discover the Razer product is distribute by Ban Leong? Any logo or sign?

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