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Yes YTL WIMAX - Yes 4G

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biatch0
post Dec 4 2010, 09:40 PM

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1) YTL appears to have more than enough bandwidth in place to handle growth - how much I won't say, but it is a very respectable amount
2) Online gaming lag - I get a reasonable ~60ms average at home... and while this isn't optimum for FPS gaming, it is pretty good for wireless. Either way, you are comparing fixed line latency to wireless latency... not entirely sure why.
3) BT impossible - Are you sure? Over the past few days I've downloaded Gentoo and FreeBSD ISOs via torrent at 1.2MB/sec. I must be Tom Cruise... where's Maggie Q?
4) HTTP downloading capped - I pulled tar.gz files from servers in Luxemborg and Malaysia... both at 1.8MB/sec. Yup, it's definitely capped... at about 15Mbps.

I have no sympathy for YTL when it comes to the flames they received for using 4G, but your baseless accusations are a bit much.
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post Jan 20 2011, 06:07 AM

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Because you should probably keep up with the ITU standard for 4G.
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post Jan 20 2011, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(shadow_rx @ Jan 20 2011, 10:20 AM)
if not what kind of standard that we are following in Malaysia??? SIRIM???  ahaha  cool2.gif
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QUOTE(shahrul_sama @ Jan 20 2011, 11:46 AM)
those YES and P1 are  not 4G tech yet...its just marketing strategy to tell(to confuse) people that their speed are faster than current 3G ...

the speed i got avrg 4 to 7 mbps ...that is 3 to 5 faster than 3G speed that their promise...so far ok la for lite user like me... laugh.gif

cant wait their new package for heavy user...
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Apparently my comment flew right over both of your heads.

To clarify things for you, the ITU announced that LTE, WiMAX, HSPA+ are all now considered to be 4G in early December LAST YEAR. So, apparently, shadow_rx is following some unknown standard and shahrul_sama is confused.

If you are too lazy to read the links below, here's a useful quote:

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Contrary to the technical specifications and in a move that will delight marketing people, both LTE and WiMAX can now officially be called 4G technologies. The decision was taken at the ITU World Radiocommunication Seminar 2010 (WRS-10) held earlier this month.

In the opening statement, the ITU determined that "LTE-Advanced" and "WirelessMAN-Advanced" should be accorded the official designation of IMT-Advanced. This accords them the status of 4G technologies, as far as the technology side is concerned.

However, the ITU also that that although it is recognized that 4G can also be applied to the forerunners of the IMT-Advanced technologies, LTE and WiMAX, and to other evolved 3G technologies that offer a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial 3G systems now deployed.

The detailed specifications of the IMT-Advanced technologies will be provided in a new ITU-R Recommendation expected in early 2012.

http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/20/hspa-lte-...ally-called-4g/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/ITU-says-LT...ally-4G_id15435
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/22/4g_itu/
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/47117.php

Official ITU press release here:
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_r...es/2010/48.aspx

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post Aug 18 2011, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(dinwaja @ Aug 9 2011, 09:24 PM)
p/s : at last, i don't have to work for a company who claimed to be 4G but not 4G at all... only what they have now, faster internet access a.k.a pre-4G...
What is it that makes you say they aren't 4G?

Before December 2010, I would have agreed with you.
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post Aug 19 2011, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(dinwaja @ Aug 19 2011, 02:32 AM)
mobile wimax is only near-4G or pre-4G only. in short,to advertise their products as full fledged 4G, do u think it is honest enough? so not fair.


Added on August 19, 2011, 2:36 amp/s : not only me have this thought...u can refer to other topics...
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From the official ITU website dated December 6th, 2010.

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Following a detailed evaluation against stringent technical and operational criteria, ITU has determined that “LTE-Advanced” and “WirelessMAN-Advanced” should be accorded the official designation of IMT-Advanced. As the most advanced technologies currently defined for global wireless mobile broadband communications, IMT-Advanced is considered as “4G”, although it is recognized that this term, while undefined, may also be applied to the forerunners of these technologies, LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed. The detailed specifications of the IMT-Advanced technologies will be provided in a new ITU-R Recommendation expected in early 2012.


The ITU who sets the standards decided that YTL/P1/etc. are 4G compliant. Pretty sure nobody has been able to argue with YTL/P1/etc. advertising since December 2010.
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post Aug 19 2011, 10:47 PM

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What makes you say that? Because I happened to bring up the ITU who sets the standards?

I, for one, was VERY much against YTL/P1 using the "4G" term before December because it simply didn't meet the ITU standards. Now that the ITU has included WiMAX/LTE in their IMT Advanced standards I can have no complaints.

On the other hand, you seem very much against their usage of the term "4G" despite them now complying with the new standards set. Don't like YTL for reasons other than what you claim maybe?

Note: I am DEFINITELY not from YTL.

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