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post Oct 11 2012, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(ArticFir3 @ Oct 11 2012, 11:59 AM)
hellworld is investor. He also got unit at Park51 Residency. The zinc roof and exposed pipe will make him cannot sell more than what he expected. Of course his POV would be different from genuine buyers that will stay. His POV is investor's. That's why he always compare 1120PA to P51 smile.gif
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my POV is from investor and home stayers too, if you plan to get this for own stay, are you happy becuase you pay to get condo but what you get is with the ugly zinc rooftop and the expose pipes in kitchen and bathroom?


yes i did complaint to developer but seems like they are not interested to do any improvement, that's why i want to voice out at here to gather more support from other buyers but seems like the other buyers are satisfy with the ugly zinc rooftop and expose pipes everywhere. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Oct 15 2012, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(NEO.rage @ Oct 14 2012, 10:46 PM)
wow....quite surprising IMO....our 1120 PA already listed at mudah...guess what?

http://www.mudah.my/1120+Park+Avenue+Condo...th-18369743.htm

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this is just asking price, imagine if you are buyer, will you pay 413psf to buy a so called "condo" but with all those expose pipes here and there which suppose it's low cost flat design?


i also wish this PA1120 can up to 413psf, but i think it's quite impossible.

i just checked with my banker, the park 51 sub sale units latest transaction at RM410 psf.

PA1120, no any transaction price yet in sub sale market, all are asking price only.

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post Oct 15 2012, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Crystal2 @ Oct 15 2012, 03:13 PM)
While I respect your right to say anything you like regarding 1120PA on this forum, I do hope you will stop cutting your own nose to spite your face.

If you are really an investor, you would want to safeguard the value of your investment instead of repeatedly posting negative remarks. By ranting and raving about this 1120PA as being so called “condo” ... with all those exposed pipes here and there … low cost flat design, you sure have a funny way of promoting your investment.

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just speak out the truth and hopefully can gather buyers power to negotiate with developer to improve on design, but seems like most the buyers just accept all these and keep quiet and hope that the potential buyers will not see these problems, this is not going to help, we keep saying good things about this condo but other people got the right judgement, so for me, no point to hide the bad things about this condo, as the intention is to gather buyers aware on this and negotiate with developer to improve.

lie to yourself this is a nice condo, will not help on the value appreciation. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif


Added on October 15, 2012, 4:37 pm
QUOTE(cheraspeople @ Oct 15 2012, 02:37 PM)
i think 350psf is more realistic.
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i hope so, but RM350psf, can find quite a number of better choice and better location, such as kelana jaya condo kelana puteri and putera, leasehold also, but much more better location, and at least no any weird expose pipes here and there.

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post Oct 15 2012, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(NEO.rage @ Oct 15 2012, 05:40 PM)
IMO, just ignore his/her post....if everybody keep "entertaining" his/her useless post, this issue would never stop.

peace, no war!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i don't think what i say is useless, just speak out the truth and hopefully can get all buyers support to fight for improvement, but the fact is most of the buyers chose to stay quiet and accept this lousy work from developer.

ok, you may keep telling yourself this is good condo, expose pipes is good, the zinc rooftop is good, the value can keep going up. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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post Oct 15 2012, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Yee Foon Kong @ Oct 15 2012, 06:01 PM)
I agreed fully with what crystal2 wrote. You get my support . Let's we more realistic .
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you mean you support with crystal2 said, then we should just accept the lousy design by developer, and keep quiet and keep telling ourselves this is nice condo?
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post Oct 16 2012, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(ArticFir3 @ Oct 16 2012, 09:39 AM)
Quoted in bold, do you even think we'e never tried discussing among ourselves on the solution? Money is not everything, and by changing designs in the eleventh hour, it's gonna delay VP. Developer not gonna risk paying us for breach of 36-months delivery. You keep stressing about the exposed pipes, yet you've done nothing but whine in this forum. At least we had some gathering among ourselves (Facebook users) to discuss about the issues. This is what I call NATO  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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so can't do anything, just keep telling ourselves this is good condo and the price will keep increasing... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

this is what i call "blind yourself" whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Oct 17 2012, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(TeannaLim @ Oct 17 2012, 03:13 PM)
+1
We bought into 1120 Park Avenue with the full knowledge of its location and overall appearance based on the mock-up model displayed at the showroom. The model looks aesthetically nice for that price and the roof top was there for all to see. Of course in our haste to grab a unit, I believe nobody actually asked the type of materials for the roof. In my opinion it is not made of zinc, more likely it is metal deck (made of steel) which is fit for purpose. But seriously does it matter what material it is made of as long as it is lasting and pleasant to look at.

As for the exposed pipes, like what Lamode said, this can be easily concealed. With the capital appreciation since launched, what is RM1 or 2 K to rectify the eyesore? Also, one of the Low Yat forummers mentioned that the developer said the exposed pipes are easier to maintain or repair if and when there is a leakage. Frankly to me the exposed pipes, although an eyesore, are not a deal breaker.

The developer never advertised the condo as high end and in fact it is listed by KPKT as medium cost. We got what we paid for. If we paid for a Proton Saga please don’t expect to get a BMW. Whatever you may opine, this 1120 PA is real value for money and quite nicely done too. In fact, the facade looks impressively majestic and turns out better looking than the mock-up model.
   
After reading so much negativity from ‘hellworld’, I also hope he or she will just sell off and move on. In my opinion, that kvetch can’t see the forest for the trees.
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the zinc rooftop and expose pipes, not even can classified as medium cost apartment design, most only can found this kind of design in low cost flat.

well, the developer is very lucky because have a bunch of buyers who do not know how to fight for better outcome and just swallow whatever developer give you. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Oct 17 2012, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(ArticFir3 @ Oct 17 2012, 03:55 PM)
By all means, if you're not happy just sell it off and you won't have to be so troubled by all this exposed pipes and zinc roof. Savvy?
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come on guys, why you all so passive and just accept whatever developer give?

we should united and fight for better improvement, this is sure will benefit the condo value, why so passive and just say it's ok with that ugly zinc rooftop and expose pipes, and say to me something like "if you're not happy , just sell it"...why don't we fight to developer to improve on that, if success then sure can bring up value of this condo.

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post Oct 17 2012, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(chwlim @ Oct 17 2012, 04:42 PM)
Dude, I fully understand your intention and hope to make the thing better for everyone's benefit, especially all buyers of PA. But I would like to say that...you are indeed using a wrong way.

This forum is mainly to discuss about the project, updates and news for buyer and non-buyer, as well as potential buyer. Your negative comments in here are not helping you to achieve your goal (gathering buyers to fight for better quality built and material), but instead giving a sense of annoying to others as you are keep on repeating the same things.

Not saying your comment is not valid, but why don't you consider to gather all buyers (who are willing to join your force in the fight) out of this thread? I do believe you want PA to be good, hoping the project can attract more buyers and tenants which may eventually jack up the rental and selling price. Isn't this all what you want it to be? But all your negative comments in here will be giving you an opposite outcome. Interested buyer will immediately step off and walk away after seeing all these negative notes.

Again, you have your right to voice out your comments, no doubt. But I do sincerely write down my view after reading your desperation. All PA buyers want the project to be good and smooth....and nothing is more important than this.
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hey dude, do you think we keep saying good things in this forum, then the potential buyers will buy the unit without go to view the unit by themselves?

you all keep saying the good things in forum, hide the bad things, when buyers go to view the unit, sure they will feel more disappointed.

i rather explode everything at here, then gather everyone attention then go to negotiate with developers.

who knows most the buyers just keep telling me it's ok, can accept, not need ask developer do any improvement...i wonder whether most the buyers are actually from developer side or not... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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post Oct 17 2012, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Crystal2 @ Oct 17 2012, 04:56 PM)
+1
Very well written. You hit the nail on the head. Cheers
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hey dude, do you think we keep saying good things in this forum, then the potential buyers will buy the unit without go to view the unit by themselves?

you all keep saying the good things in forum, hide the bad things, when buyers go to view the unit, sure they will feel more disappointed.

i rather explode everything at here, then gather everyone attention then go to negotiate with developers.

who knows most the buyers just keep telling me it's ok, can accept, not need ask developer do any improvement...i wonder whether most the buyers are actually from developer side or not... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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post Oct 17 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(ArticFir3 @ Oct 17 2012, 05:06 PM)
Lol copy pasting the same comment sure as hell is annoying as repeating the same thing, but not showing any efforts to improve the "downside"
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better than you just accept and swallow whatever developer give you rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Oct 17 2012, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(ArticFir3 @ Oct 17 2012, 05:17 PM)
It's called living in reality and not bend everything according to your own will smile.gif Don't tell me you buy a Proton Saga and expect 5 star service as Ferrari. And yeah, keyboard warrior like you shall hide behind a monitor and type all you want. Why I don't see you showing up at Peter's office and making a big fuss of it? drool.gif
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do you think request conceal pipe and some better looking rooftop is consider very high class condo requirement?

if you think you pay 200k and get something like this(expose pipes and ugly zinc rooftop), then i got nothing to say.


Added on October 17, 2012, 5:38 pm
QUOTE(chwlim @ Oct 17 2012, 05:37 PM)
Dude, this is not the official forum of Peter. Whatever you whine here will not be seen by Peter and its staffs. Wonder if you are clear with this? If you do, then you should be clear that whatever you comment here does not help you to achieve your goal.

Write in to the developer, engage with lawyer (if need), make a rally PA 1.0 or whatever you want to name it... all these can help you to divert your frustration directly to the developer and gain their attention. LYN is just a forum, Peter and its staffs are not here...
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i don't plan to let developer see this post, but hopefully gather buyers together to fight for it...but who knows all buyers like coward, just accept whatever lousy stuff that developer give


Added on October 17, 2012, 5:41 pm
QUOTE(ArticFir3 @ Oct 17 2012, 05:17 PM)
It's called living in reality and not bend everything according to your own will smile.gif Don't tell me you buy a Proton Saga and expect 5 star service as Ferrari. And yeah, keyboard warrior like you shall hide behind a monitor and type all you want. Why I don't see you showing up at Peter's office and making a big fuss of it? drool.gif
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still better than you, you're like a coward just swallow whatever shit the developer give you and still say thanks to developer.

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post Oct 17 2012, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(cheraspeople @ Oct 17 2012, 06:00 PM)
Hi Hellworld, if you keep condemning this PA1120, i think potential buyers will not even pay a visit to the condo. So, are you improving the situation or making it worst? Nobody ask you to lie in this forum but please do not make it worst since yourself have not physically inspected the end product and yet making so much negative comments based on your own assumption and perception which is not wise at all. The flaws delivered by the developer in the unit can be addressed and the quality might not be that bad so please do not make your conclusion too early.
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then better ask someone don't post the picture with ugly zinc rooftop and the expose pipes picture.

i saw the pictures in this forum too.


Added on October 17, 2012, 6:27 pm
QUOTE(mingyew @ Oct 17 2012, 06:08 PM)
No black and white saying on interior structural design.

No use if keep shouting.

You can gather people and propose to developer about this matter.

You can sell to me at developer price also. i treat you big dinner. LOL
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where got shouting, tell the truth only, just some buyers not agree with me, they feel this is nice product and they accept it.


Added on October 17, 2012, 6:29 pm
QUOTE(ArticFir3 @ Oct 17 2012, 05:56 PM)
Let hellworld be happy in his own fantasy world. Whatever we say, it's always wrong in his eyes and his words are correct. No point reasoning with him since he can't see reasons.
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are you sure i am the one live in fantasy world?

i see the weakness of this condo so i speak out and hopefully can gather power to negotiate with developer.

but the truth is, you are the one who live in fantasy world and keep telling yourself everything is good and fine, and you are happy with it.

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post Oct 17 2012, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Yee Foon Kong @ Oct 17 2012, 09:00 PM)
Hell world you really are  one of a kind, calling people coward , hiding behind your keyboards and firing from your hips. If you are so unhappy and dissatisfied , since you mentioned you are a purchaser , you should after viewing your unit should sell it with a good profit . pleae live in your own fantasies paying for a proton saga and expecting a Ferreira delivered to you haha good luck to you for making a damn bad decision.
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you are kind of person who not dare to fight for better, just accept whatever people give.

i am paying for condo but in fact, get a low cost flat design thing.

and you are very happy with that.

you are the one who hide behind monitor and no dare to complaint and just accept whatever shit people give you


Added on October 17, 2012, 9:18 pm
QUOTE(ArticFir3 @ Oct 17 2012, 09:02 PM)
Poor boy still didn't know what I mean. It's ok smile.gif Not everyone is perfect.
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well, i understand some people just afraid to make complaint and fight for right, so this kind of person just accept whatever people give them even though they deserve better. pity on this kind of people, forever have a mindset become slave.

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post Oct 17 2012, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Crystal2 @ Oct 17 2012, 10:23 PM)
Out of curiosity I googled a search on "What do you call someone who thinks they are always right?"

And the interesting answer from http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_do_you_call...re_always_right

"arrogant, ignorant, obnoxious, small minded, and probably very insecure"
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You guys so free until can keep lying to yourself this is nice condo and search from google for the definition "what do you call someone who thinks they are always right",

Better spent your time use this forum to discuss what should we do to negotiate with developer to improve on quality of this condo.
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post Oct 18 2012, 05:53 AM

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QUOTE(Yee Foon Kong @ Oct 18 2012, 05:42 AM)
Hell world fully agreed with you, but there are better ways to go about it ,however not like the way you running down and hope people will support. The google definition by crystal2 exactly describes the type of peron you are. Be real and leave your dream world,
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I don't see you all doing anything to help improve the condition but just try to say everything is ok and can be accept. Well , go on and live in your dream world. I cannot belive you all will belive to developer that expose pipes is better than conceal pipe design because of water leaking issue. This prove that how lousy and not confident workmanship by this developer until they cannot do a proper conceal pipes work. And the funny thing is most of you can accept this kind of design.

 

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