I just curious, which 1s of the Malaysia made MPV has the highest quality in term of FUEL consumption and comfort.

PROTON EXORA vs PERODUA ALZA....

which 1s is the best......

in term of space i'll take exora but in term of qc i'll take alza~

This post has been edited by Rascal Stitch: Jul 21 2010, 10:41 AM

comfort : Exora

fc : Alza

No best of the best, just which suit your preference more.

:P:P+Jul 21 2010, 10:39 AM-->EASY,

proton or perodua?
perodua better la...

:P:P+Jul 21 2010, 10:39 AM-->if MPV..

better exora...but people said out of power..but y need to power2..it a MPV..family car..wanted power car...cost more fuel consumption..

alza..for me just like Myvi 'sedan' with extra at the back..with small tyre for MPV..others said power is balance..cuz what i know alza weight is less then exora...

there is pro & con...it depent on customer like...but both of MPV is not to bad...engine cc not like wish or naza ria..

both exora and alza underpowered?

If you say quality does matter..have a look at this pics below:

cannot understand what you trying to say, sorry

Put some more pics for you


Understand now?

all car can be like that

let's put it this way,
both rubbish proton/perodua
you die in both car.

but if you were to choose between the 2,
then it's better to die in a perodua

This post has been edited by duckaton: Jul 21 2010, 11:11 AM

why dont consider nissan grand livina 1.8? very good

So u admit both are crap don't u? Just the matter you're too arrogant with the P2@T badge..

Now, let me get this clear before you go around bashing people who prefer P2 over P1
personally I dont wanna touch them even with a 6 feet pole.

people buy P1/P2 not from choice.
If they have a choice, i dont think they would buy them.

however, if you ask me P1 or P2,
then P2,
geddit?

personally like:

Alza's interior, dashboard design, meter cluster, gear position.

Exora's exterior, cabin size, air cond coldness...

+1

if grand livina same price as alza/exora, I don't think you will be asking the question whether to get livina or alza or exora. Don't mean to be rude but P1/P2 is overprotected by government and corruption. That's why they never improve. Just like err....nevermind...no political talks here.

Anyway, I urge owners of alza and exora to post their FC here.....easier for TS to judge.

not in the same bandwidth? hahaha what a nerd

stop with trolls ok

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Added on July 21, 2010, 12:00 pm[/B]toyota alphard


This post has been edited by Invader Zim: Jul 21 2010, 12:00 PM

seriously,
why are you replying to a reply i replied to another person?
what are you smoking?


btw, nice pics.
people die in their peroduas and toyotas.
luckily i dont own any of them.
any more pics?

This post has been edited by duckaton: Jul 21 2010, 12:03 PM

yes, I'm trying to search for the accident photos in kelantan where all family members died when their alphard crashed into pieces

also, try not to be tough guy in the internet

Stop la ! This is about Exora and ALZA , not u ppl dying on the road ! Anyway depends on the driver also, Exora provide more comfort hence cost more while ALZA less comfort but better FC and lease cost

so why ppl buy exora more than alza? care to explain, duck?

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Added on July 21, 2010, 12:41 pmduh, one liner again.. so what? now thats two..

This post has been edited by wandzul: Jul 21 2010, 12:47 PM

Hi,
dun get what you actually meant, sorry.
let me try,

you are quite a confused chap
better sales has never meant better car, ever

so what if exora sells more than alza/livina/stream
you mean exora is better than the rest.?

dont compare exora with stream lah, different price segment.. you confused duck..

i was referring to Exora vs Alza Sales.. as per title suggests, Exora vs ALZA.. clear cut
u're the one who got confused by including livina & stream..

btw, if not better then will ppl buy more eh? use common sense!

haha, i don't know smth about alza.. but i once sit in my friend's father Exora before... and at the speed of 110km/h the stereo was interrupted by the wind sound out there, although all the windows are closed

alza worse...at 60km/h only can hear wind noise

lol... ppl asking between Alza and Exora for a reason... if they can afford everything in the world, they'll ask "which one is better Airbus A380 or Boeing 787???"

suggesting Livina or Stream in a thread discussing Alza vs Exora is stupid anyway... just because it's better, doesn't mean it's affordable by everyone... TS might already stretch out his budget already and stretching more by adding RM100 or 200 to monthly installment is a no no...

like you said, if people have a choice ppl wont choose P1 or P2... but do we have a choice here??? live in reality dude, not somewhere in fantasy with the word "if"...

BTW, as for the topic... Exora will be in my preference for the space... Only small kids can sit at the third row of the Alza...

No offense,but i think that is the dumbest way to describe quality.

The picture has nothing to do with quality la.Even a Honda ,Toyota,MErcedes,BMW car can end up like that if you dont know how to drive.

Quality here meaning,those plastic quality,fabric quality,gearbox quality,engine durability etc etc..

Dint know got such peanut brained ppl here..

no best car in the world....no one buy a car to crash it
if u give me...i'll buy exora
it has bigger space..better handling

both cars are generally the same. quality in exora is really good. comfort is fantastic. i couldn't believe its a proton at first. summore it has a 4star safety rating. what better way to bring your loved ones?

MPV = Space and comfort....which is Exora win here
u buy MPV to have more comfort and can carry extra people when needed ...not to cramp.....
One is 1.5 DVVT another is 1.6CPS....go show room test drive both, then u will know the answer urself........



Here is some Exora Crash test at 56 km/h

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DKI-rFx-QU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiM0ZEKd1E4&feature=related



This one is Alza at 23 km/h crash test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1wrtcQIgps&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvEU9LNn5DE&NR=1


Luggage space comparing with Avanza, Exora and Grand Livina (no Alza)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBaNnce-Vds&feature=related


This post has been edited by muslayer: Jul 21 2010, 02:26 PM

For more comfort, spacious and power then I will go for EXORA. I mean MANUAL transmission as it won't underpowered. But for auto, yes it underpower due to the transmission ratio. (the power is like a 2.0 innova auto while also due of the transmission ratio to protect the gearbox for mpv)
If you wan more feature, then choose EXORA as exora have many unnecessary feature.

For FC, I will choose alza.

For technology, one is DVVT and another is CPS. I will choose CPS as it has valve lift function.

If we forget the brand PROTON and PERODUA, exora is really a worth mpv to get in that price range. Proton Exora QC is much more better now.

We can't judge the car safety by just looking at the accident picture. You see some car is kinda soft but actually it created it for crumple zone. No matter how is the damage on the exterior, the passenger in the cabin still safe.

This post has been edited by singchaii: Jul 21 2010, 02:43 PM

Exora should not be compared with Alza.

Exora seats 7 with ease, but Alza is not.

Alza is more suitable for small family or even single drivers

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Jul 21 2010, 02:45 PM

Totally agreed with you.
To choose in between, I will take Exora because of space. But I am driving a Chery Eastar now. FC: 23 cent City driving. (Petrol price at RM1.80)

BTW, have you checked out the review video by driven.com.my?

http://www.driven.com.my/121/watch-driven-...s-perodua-alza/

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Added on July 21, 2010, 2:47 pmwow...that is pretty darn high FC...

This post has been edited by abubin: Jul 21 2010, 02:47 PM

Tell you what, watch this video and make up your mind. Driven is by paultan, a trust able automotive reviewer..

http://www.driven.com.my/121/watch-driven-...s-perodua-alza/

ok... in term of crash safety, exora is safe compare to alza as exora was tested by NCAP (google it) but alza i can't find any. Once u watch the exora NCAP test then u know.

about Alza crash in malaysia, actually it just test clam zone not from side, back and turn turtle test.

Btw, i own a MyVi.

This post has been edited by ehor: Jul 21 2010, 08:05 PM

exora

i will take Exora

more space better power & safer

cons : QC have improve but there's still room

LOL.
I saw before the MPV MATRIX got knocked by bus become 2 seater car man.
Wadya say?
And I saw toyota Innova turn into 2 seater also.
I got post on the "accident pics thread".
Check it out la.

To me, all mpv also not safe.
It is designed to ferry ppl.
If you are unlucky, God bless you.
Sry to say.
Hope Msian driver will change their driving attitude or if you drive a tank also you can die anytime.
(alios~)

die in lamborghini is better

FOr alza manual the fc are 7l/100KM town 50% 50% highway
100% highway 6.9/100km

if really wan MPV, get exora. If wan perodua, then alza lor. btw alza is too small for being a MPV

by looking at the highway figure, seems the fc is similar to my gen2 1.6 AT (plain campro, no IAFM no CPS).. weird eh..
however in city, fc for sure i kena pawned la.. lol

mind summarizing it? sick of watching that scripted show

Exora la..
Spacious
More Power
Safety alot
Even Advertisement advertise of the safety....by owners...
Every row got air-cond..
I love the look too..compare to Alza
Big...and it is really BIG rear row space....
Not so bumpy as Avanza(worse MPV ever)
CPS = Good FC, if not mistaken...110@ 2k++ RPMs only...Alza nid 3k or ++
So far i sat...from SP to A.Setar@Highway.....no wind sound @ 120KM/H at all....car stable, no shake shake....

for those prefer a leisure driving style, alza is fine. but it's not a proper 7 seater. the 3rd row seat is only mean to carry ppl on short distance drive.
while due to the nature of high rev campro cps engine, exora need to be push to reach the cps cam opening which is around 3.8k rpm to get the best of the cps engine.
no doubt, both are under power(low power to weight ratio). exora having the upper hand for being a proper 7 seater, good road handling and eager engine.
during a steep hill climb, push the exora harder and the aircond will turn off by itself. this allow for more power to the engine; which is quite handy!
while alza is something you can drive at leisure pace.

conclusion; choose one that suit your budget, preference and driving style.

wow, never know exora got such thing

driven a relative's exora auto tranny with 6 adult on board up to berjaya hills bukit tinggi. while i was pushing the car all the way up in D and the rpm was
around 6.4k rpm, air-con suddenly switch off by itself. 2nd time pushing the car, air-cond auto switch off again and the engine feels lighter.
it was a feature of exora which not many ppl know.

haha, even proton themself didnt publish such feature

they will not... coz' some inexperience driver may assumed it was the car / air-cond problem.
while some other decided to switch off the air-con prior to hill climb.
btw, a few other hardcore exora user that i knew, mentioned about the feature too.

Exora lar. Alza is Myvi with Boot. I don't want a Myvi with boot.

But better wait for the Turbo Campro CPS Exora...end of the year or early next year?

this feature is included in some other cars too..read bout it before long ago

huh? i dont understand what u trying to say..
if proton did not publish, then inexperience driver might think of aircond problem then make hoo haa at sc no?

Had a first hand experience with Alza during our company's trip to langkawi recently. We rented a new Alza.

To sum it up:
+ good turning radius
+ Good visibility
+ cold aircond (need to turn it up to maximum in order for the last row to feel a breeze)
+ Good engine response

- Twitchy under higher speed
- Gearbox has got a mind of its own. downshifting unnecessarily
- Engine lacks power while going up a hill with 5 persons in it.
- Boot space is ridiculously small with 3rd row utilised. cant even put your groceries
- Boominess of the engine gets into the cabin
- bad build quality

personally i havent tried exora, but i think i'd be better than the Alza.

compare space yes exora win
i think for auto car is willy under power lah that for sure.

fc i think dont know why my car still in high side.

some auto member can get less than me found it very shock.

will have a try again on this week to kl trip

i think it's not really the air cond turn off... but the compressor turned off... user might not notice if only for a while... i noticed this in my Gen2 too when flooring the pedal sometimes the aircond is not that cool... is it just one of the features in CPS engine??

tried driving a H-Line exora... feels like driving sedan, that is good!.. i think becuz of the seating position maybe ?

dun wanna die in any brand of car at all unlike u.
The words should be " but if I were to choose between the 2 " - plz dont assume others same as u

TS

QC : equally done, different segment. 7 vs 5+2
FC : alza < (lesser than) exora
Comfort : exora > (spacious than) alza.

just ignore him with his jap mpv fanboyism crap...since his nick starts with DUCK,,,we can assume his brain is size of duck brain

anyway i chose eXora,,,do not confuse with lotus eVora,,,due 2 large space...i never big fan of P2 despite being made from jap steel bcoz its just 2 small 4 my big size body n if my family is all big size type,,,sure mati lo cram in sardin can

I can't see the thread helping.

what i see is, these 2 cars are for different purposes.

If your looking for a Family Car >>> EXORA
If your looking for a car bigger than hatches just to carry things around >>> ALZA

I really cant see how hard it is to pick up between these 2.

Im looking for a Car just to bring my GF and I to work. sometimes fetching some friends, and we need to carry stuffs for business purposes with good fc. And sometimes carry our dogs. So Alza definitely!

If im looking for a family car (which explains everything) no doubt I'll go for Exora.
but for me i think, I will get better car instead. when im working for like 10 years and having children, i dont think i'll be as poor as now! xD

if you are looking for superb qualities, your probably at the wrong section
when your buying new cars with such price tags you shouldn't be surprise with the quality. as long as it doesn't bring much trouble then it should do the job! every car is built for their own purposes. if it meet your budget and usage, then go for it.

This post has been edited by RandyBlind: Oct 10 2012, 01:27 AM

Now exora comes with le turbo

Underpowered?? No problems

That is called having inferiority complex. I bought mine with cash, no loan.

Towards what? and what did you bought

Guys, i'm going to have same decision to make with between Exora Bold Standard (CFE) VS ALZA EZI going to get either one of it this comming CNY.

Price exora 69k VS Alza 64K


i'm personally thinking Exora is my 1st choice over Alza, how ever, another major concerns is the FUEL consumption, i'm 7 days a week working driving from seri kembangang to KL City in peak hours.

Any of you are Alza or Exora Bold CFE users, kindly reply your fuels consumption ?

1. Price for Full tank
2. last for how many KM for full thank?
3. how often you refuel?

It's a CVT, even if it downshifts you won't be able to feel it. There is no shift shock, and doesnt shift up and down like a conventional AT car.

Exora Bold cfe premium
1. RM100+-
2. Highway 550km-600km. Petaling Jaya city 400-500km
3. Depends how long you travel...i fill when the indicator light up

FC of course Alza wins

Exora CPS is known to be underpowered when going uphill, hence the frequent downshift to achieve more torque at high RPM.

The CFE engine has more torque at lower RPM (max torque at 2k RPM), hence there is little need to downshift. Furthermore the CVT is smooth and very comfortable, none of the shift shock nonsense compared to the 4AT gearbox in the CPS.

Sorry I've never driven the EB up Genting, though I have driven the Saga FLX SE with CVT, which is almost the same gearbox as the Exora Bold.

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 10 2013, 01:33 PM

Remember to ujipandu sampai u puas hati

for value over money get exora EB, but prepared for lousy after sales service. (potong ma) but you can join exora club like EOCM to gain more knowlege and help when it times to claim warranty

actually i drove the auto CPS version of Exora, true its underpowered when came out from the showroom, however being campro cps had soo many upgrade parts out there to increase engine performance. thrown abt 3k and get full kit from works engineering + piggyback then cap ayam exhaust system.. best achievement can tailgating audi q3 going up genting

F/c = full tank from kl 80 rm and 1 bar left when reaching bukit kayu hitam. speed 120 to 170 sometimes when a myvi cucuk

This post has been edited by ajaibman: Feb 11 2013, 10:24 AM

Ya ya ya