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 Nokia N900 V4 (More than 100 owners), Where tablet meets mobile phone

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QUOTE(jloi @ Jul 30 2010, 12:31 AM)
him i cant screenshot but my conky is open 24 hours XP

so down there got

Xorg    802    4~7%    8.01
conky    7128    2.33    0.88
hildon-status-m    1073    1    4.86
hildon-desktop    1083    0.33    3.81

and 3~4 more thingy which change too fast cant capture it

could it b hardware prob? sad.gif..mayb is OC side effect? sad.gif
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Maybe the thing that change too fast is the culprit? Is it keep appear and disappear?

Which OC method you use? Titans kernel?
If you use Titans, then you can create shortcut in your desktop to OC on demand. Means, only OC when you need it. When you need the extra power, press the button to OC to 900Mhz. After finish your work, press another button to set back default/stock clock speed.

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QUOTE(Josh_M @ Aug 2 2010, 01:55 PM)
but i bet you cant OVERCLOCK it ....

BTW aspire is rite. it has a 1Ghz processor inside it.
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Actually you can... For Android, overclocking is done much ealier than Maemo on N900. When people start talking about N900 overclocking possibilities, there're many against it and say it cannot be done. But the Milestone already running overlock for some time already... Finally, someone come up with the overclock and those skeptics turn their words and said some other things; basically they're against overclocking.

For Android, there is a very good and nice app which let android device to do overclock with profiles settings...
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Aug 4 2010, 02:43 AM)
9 Desktop lags the phone?
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Technically, the more you have, the more memory it requires, also depends on your desktop customization.

Once I was out, want to converse battery, get fast response and smooth video recording then use 3G to upload the videos to facebook. So I turn off 3 other desktop, only left 1. The phone is much more responsive and I believe the contributes a lot of battery life as well.
The drawback... after I enable back my 3 other desktop, I have to customize those 3 desktop again! Darn it! I'm not gonna do it again.

So, those phone that have only 1 simple homescreen or worst, NONE at all, surely it's smooth as butter.

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Aug 4 2010, 04:13 PM)
So far I used bestskinsever only, and I've not used for other brand and i read from the net saying they are actually the same material / quality, so assuming it is rubbery like bestskinsever. Therefore I will not get them.

I prefer matte surface protector, so far the best quality matte protector is NSIX brand, they are hongkong/japan brand, its raelly matte unlike cheapo rm5-10 protector which will stick finger print and get scratch easily, not to mention it is THIN. NSIX is a little hard, no effect on touchscreen, doesn't stick finger print and dont get scratch when i use my 5800.


Added on August 4, 2010, 4:14 pm

how bout some SNES RPG games? tongue.gif

GBA emulator sucks badly >.>
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SNES: Chrono Trigger! (RPG - Active Time System like Final Fantasy)
Sega Megadrive: Shining Force series (Strategy/Tactical type RPG)

Farming Games:
Harvest Moon! Forget about cheapo farmville...
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QUOTE(angelbratz @ Aug 4 2010, 04:26 PM)
But the question is...Can you Survive after get hit by a Bus? In Order for the phone to get hit by the bus...the owner must be somewhere near the bus?

haha


Added on August 4, 2010, 4:27 pmAndy...which Harvest moon are you talking bout???

PS1 harvest Moon issit?
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SNES also got Harvest Moon. This is actually the first Harvest Moon I played, the land is big, not bad, somehow feel 3 year for the game is a little too short.

PS1 got one version is the best, many things to do one, got cooking, many events, etc. Forgot the name already, I think it was also ported to PSP. Didn't complete it tough, these kind of games, similar like RPG, once you stop playing sometime and play back, you don't know where to start and where you left. Very hard to follow back.

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Aug 5 2010, 01:04 AM)
1 thing i like is that, i can focus for video and also once i focus already, the focus stays there and will not go back to normal unfocused state.
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Most video recording phone doesn't have auto-focus or focus function when recording, even most of the PnS camera outthere can't do it.

However, there is one app call "iFocus" (I think) which allows you to adjust the focus manually during video recording. Previously I did install it, but it seems buggy and they implemented something on the proximity sensor, so it's annoying with the menu keep popping up.


QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Aug 5 2010, 01:25 AM)
arrrrr....usually when i use the phone i slide open the screen....i press every key on the keyboard search for the zoom button....arrr.......didn't notice the Zoom button under the LCD screen sweat.gif  sweat.gif

thanks alots guy notworthy.gif

about the camera, when take pic at small object using macro mode, not sharp abit blur...is the any good 3 party camera apps....
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Learn some photography technique. You can focus on something else, lock the focus, then move back at the object you want to capture. With this technique, you can take many wonderful pictures, even those that you can't focus due to lighting or the lense unable to focus that particular object. You can focus something easier to focus (even near), lock it, the shift back to the object you want to capture.

As for 3rd party camera app, there is BlessN900... and finally, the most powerful of all, fCAM.
fCAM is what I have been asking for, manual focus, manual controls. It's like having a profesional camera already!

I wonder if there's any other smartphone have such powerful camera app.

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Aug 5 2010, 02:29 PM)
thats what we call "recompose" your shot~ and its a big no no in photography~

http://www.mhohner.de/recompose.php
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Is a technique if you don't have manual control over focus and/or the auto-focus cannot focus on the object. So, it's an alternative way. If done correctly, the shot looks the same, it's not noticeable.

I've seen many professional photographers use this technique during photoshoot, it's a quick way rather than adjusting manually and useful in certain situations.

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I read the article, it says the user blame the camera. It's as if the user do not intend to do it.
Well, if you intend to use this technique, you wouldn't blame the camera, you blame yourself.

Beside, the article also doesn't sound right, it depends on the purpose of using this technique and what you want to achieve. The article is talking about general shot and people who use it without knowing what they want thus facing issues. Usually, when I use this technique, I was my object to appear sharp and focus and the background is blur or out of focus, it looks great; It's like Macro settings but you macro settings have limitation, with this technique, you can achieve further.

As I said, it's a technique and alternative option to achieve certain capabilities which is limited by the camera.


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Control N900 with your MIND:
http://dailymobile.se/2010/08/05/thinkcont...with-your-mind/

Some Basics of fCamera:
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/07/27/...light-examples/

Superb fCamera Reviews:
http://ericscorner.blogspot.com/2010/07/fc...900-review.html
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QUOTE(Augus7 @ Aug 6 2010, 03:57 PM)
no nid memory card first as u probably wont be able to fill up those  32gb. just my 2cents

anyways, just to add as an input for those cant connect to wifi dat requires pin method or push button on router,
1.go to settings.
2. go internet connection.

from here, create a new wlan connection based on that wifi dat requires setup and youre good to go. sry for being a slowpoke if this is already out and sry for messy input coz im using n900 to post nw
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Not if you put videos/movies into your N900, it's never enough.

Anyway, I try to put all the videos on the memory card and leave my internal storage free. I also change the camera and video capture to memory card, my memory card is only class2, not sure if higher speed will help to improve the video capture performance. Perhaps someone who have higher speed can verify.
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Aug 11 2010, 05:36 PM)
N73 N81 N82 5800 N97 K800 W910 6288 6280 N900 K660 and a few more which I can't really remember >.> not inclusive non 3G from the past years LOL

btw this one COOL


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Only with Resistive Touch; Capacitive touch can forget about it.

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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Aug 11 2010, 03:04 PM)
i in dilemma to buy iphone or this one...n900 can't use mms right?this is just my only reason not order it yet ...huhu
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If MMS is so important, then perhaps you should not get this phone?

N900 by default does not provide MMS support (not sure if Nokia will update the OS to provide it in future).

But there is 3rd party software which provide MMS support, it's called fMMS. But this app, seems doesn't use our MMS rate and will use our Data rate (so it'll cost you a bomb to send MMS if you don't have Data Plan).


QUOTE(Dominus91 @ Aug 11 2010, 12:41 PM)
usually when your RAM is >175MB, your phone will start to lag.. i experience this problem when the phone up-time is more than 3 days.. this is due to the high RAM consumption of HILDON- HOME and other accumulated temporary caches for the N900 dekstop.. but once i do a reboot, everything return to normal.. RAM back to normal( for mine is 150MB but it's depends).. try not to put too much widget on dekstop..it might help.. Oh yeah.. if your dekstop have simple FM tansmitter and Recaller widget.. please remove them asap.. they are reviewed by other N900 forum to eat too much RAM which are main culprit to lead lagging..
BTW, try check your SWAP MEMORY(use conky)..if you open too many application.. the swap memory will start to raise.. OC is one of the solution to solve lag problem.. recommended clock speed.. 125MHz to 800MHz..
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Actually the lag is caused by the use of Swap Memory... When you ram usage increase, so does your swap memory. If there is no swap memory, you most probably will not have these problems.
Not sure if there is way to limit the use of Swap Memory and clears it *properly*.

The non-proper way of clearing swap memory is by turn it off and turning it on. Yes, there is way to turn off the swap memory but it's may cause instability.

Another way to clear off swap memory is... same like your PC... RESTART...

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Sorry, but based on the above, I'm strongly curious why do you want the N900? As from your requirement, this N900 doesn't seems to fit your requirement. It's doesn't have good phone functionality and as a phone, it's not as reliable as most of the phones out there.

If you really intend to use this phone, you really need to do many things in order to appreciate it.

Unless you really like the design, the OS, the phone itself and don't mind it's limitation, then you may consider this phone. There're users out there which don't install other things and just practically use it as a normal phone, they buy it because they like the UI, the phone design, etc. and there's nothing wrong with that, the important thing is that they know what they want.

The reason I'm saying this is hope that you know what you're getting and not regret later. Many people purchase this phone and ended up disappointed and sold it away simply because they got it for the wrong reasons.

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QUOTE(Audiologist @ Aug 12 2010, 12:50 PM)
Thanks to those who replied my post, appreciated.

Well, I know some of you are saying that it is not a good idea to use this phone without bundle with a 3G plan. I am looking for a device which I can use it as a secondary laptop or computer in the move, something like a MID or a netbook for me to do some light work over the internet.

I did a research about this in the past few months. Windows Mobile is totally out. Iphone, not my cup of tea, in fact, beside the processor speed and apps of the Iphone, I really don't see how powerful the Iphone is over N900. The N900 can be more powerful than Iphone if you know how to and what to do with it. Andriod, it can run on N900 too. Blackberry, they are good devices, but they are useless without a data plan.

I was also considered the 5800 and X6 before I looking at the N900. The screen of 5800 and X6 are the same size, it is too small for internet browsing. And the X6 is only come with internal memory, which I don't like either. Not to mention the disadvantages of Symbian over Meamo.

And some of you may ask, why not just get a MID or a netbook? Well, MID is way too big, at least, bigger than a PDA size phone. A netbook or a normal laptop will be too cumbersome if I only need to check a few emails. And I don't want to carry too many stuffs when I travel. And wifi is every where, Oldtown, Mc D......... Why would I spend more on a data/3G plan? FB? I rather do it at home.

The capability of N900 is what attracting me, it is a mini tablet with phone function, its what I'm after. I just need to clear something out before I buy it.

So, MMS. It is working over internet connection instead of GPRS? About GPS, as far as I know, A-GPS can be only work with satelite? No?
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Well, as long as you know what you want and what you're getting then it's fine. smile.gif
We're just trying to prevent people from making wrong choices.

With that cleared, if you're looking for a laptop replacement or computer on the move, look no further and take no doubt, N900 is the best (and probably the only for now) choice WITH phone capabilities. Others are smartphones, but N900 is something more than a smartphone, it's an Internet Tablet with built-in phone functionalities.

It's "very" open unlike Symbian and Android, but this also means the user needs to be more careful and knowledgeable. The more "open/freedom", the more "possibilities", at the same time, the more "risk".

With the power of TRUE multi-tasking, you'll be appreciating it a lot, and also the concept of Social Networks Integration into the Address Book. Unlike other smartphones, they need to install 3rd party apps and open them to see status or chat, etc. On the N900, everything is/can be built in, and my looking at the contacts, you can see your friend's status on MSN, Facebook, etc. and you can initiate chat directly from there.

Web Browsing is also great on this device, the ONLY drawback for now is NO FLASH 10 support!!! doh.gif

You may say you rather do it at home, but once you have this, it's so mobile. Sometimes, I lazy to move over the the PC/laptop, I rather surf with my N900 on the bed or couch. Or while watching TV, on commercial breaks, you can turn to your N900 anytime and browse the web, search wiki on the movie you're watching, etc. It's so portable. It can pretty much replace a "normal" netbook for internet browsing, but of course, not to the extend of a computer or laptop.

The media playing capabilities is also another awesome features with support for many different file types and most fo the time, there's no conversion required, just transfer to your N900 and enjoy! Hook the N900 to a car stand, and it can become a portable player for your car. Sweet.

MMS is working over data network instead of the usual MMS data network. I think maybe oversea they don't have this thing called MMS data network? Because I think they're the same thing, just that our local operator separate it? Anyone care to enligthen or know about this?

You can turn of A-GPS and use only GPS. That is not the real problem, the real problem is there is no good GPS Software with Malaysian map on the N900. Nokia Maps for N900 is different from Symbian and it's pretty much useless without navigation and location saving.
There's a paid GPS app called Sygic which is pretty good, but NO official/supported updated Malaysia map.
The popular GPS software such as Garmin and PapaGo, is not available for N900.
Since the N900 is already available in Taiwan, hopefully they will port the PapaGo over? Even the Samsung Wave running Bada OS have PapaGo M7...


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QUOTE(smart14 @ Aug 12 2010, 04:20 PM)
hi, i wanted to to it bcos i did install a number of applications onto my n900. what's actually happen is my n900 seem to have some problems as followed:

1. it takes more times to open any new application.
2. the conversation widget (SMS) and contacts list doesn't show my previous SMS, when i click on SMS or conversation box, it says "NO CONVERSATION", what i had to do is to restart my n900 to get back the old SMS. same thing goes to CONTACT. i presume it was caused by the lack of memory.
3. my n900 do "hang" sometimes when 4-5 application were open at once.

4. anyone knows how to send business card with n900? i can't figure it out how....
5. im looking for the game "choh dai di" game, anyone knows one for n900.
6. how to clean-up my n900 as i had beed installing and un-installing software every now and then, i presume there must be debris left on my n900.
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1 & 2. Your situation could be caused by low rootfs. Are you using the latest firmware PR1.2?
Next, make sure the apps you installed are optified; use Conky to check your rootfs FREE Space. When install apps, becareful; This phone is very"open" and gives you many "freedom", thus it also means the user need to be more careful and know what he/she is doing.

Next you can check your memory, although it should rarely be the case as you only open a few apps, unless those are apps are uses heavy resource.

3. Check your swap/virtual memory usage. This is usually the cause. If it's used up too much (e.g. above 100MB maybe?) It will become more and more laggy as the more it used. Since there is no "proper" way to clear the swap memory, you can only do a RESTART (just like your PC), and your N900 should regain it's speed/responsiveness.
4. Just click on the contact to go into the Contact page, click on the top part which will bring down the menu, select "Send Contact Card".
5. No idea if this game is available. Check Chinese (HK/TW) forums maybe see if anyone ported it as I think rarely westerners know what is that game?


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QUOTE(smart14 @ Aug 12 2010, 04:51 PM)
yes, am using latest firmware 1.2.eversince i have removed many unsed application to free space, now according to conky,my RAM usage is 67% with  only CONKY is in use, why does it took up so much ram usage, when i open another application, the ram always use up 100%., as for swap usage, is now 12%.
another questions :
1. when install application , where do these application be stored in? rootfs, home or Mydocs?

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RAM usage 100%????? WOW!
I've never seen 100% usage, never see it used above 200MB before.
It will use up swap usage when it require more ram, thus increasing the swap usage. When swap usage gets higher, the phone will start to lag and less responsive...

You can try install HTOP, then you can see DETAILED information on each process, you can order by highest RAM usage, processor usage, etc.

What about your rootfs free?

There're 2GB dedicated space for application; optified apps will only take up little space on rootfs. Non-optified app will/might take up a lot of space on your rootfs and this will give you problem if you rootfs is low.
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QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Aug 12 2010, 08:42 PM)
1) resistive screen (who still using resistive screen these day, N900!!)
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Actually, the public is over-ruled or blinded by capacitive touch. Yes, multi-touch is great, but you cannot use stylus! You cannot use finger-nails, lack of accuracy and NO pressure sensitivity.

Previous tablets, handhelds, Pocket PC all comes default with stylus support and it was great back then. Then comes with Capacitive with multi-touch being made famous by the iPhone.

For people with long fingernails or bigger fingers will curse when using capacitive touch keyboard, and worst when accessing website links in FULL version. Imagine clicking on links in Facebook FULL version, almost impossible unless you zoom in.

QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Aug 12 2010, 09:03 PM)
just curious:

1) How good is N900 resistive screen? I read reviews, it all say "Amazing resistive screen", "What a resistive screen", "The best resistive screen". But how good is that, comparable with not bad capacitive screen?

2) Why everyone compare N900 with Iphone, they're not even in the same price range.
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Resistive screen lets you use any object, especially stylus and it can have good precision/accuracy as well as some sort of pressure sensitivity. Multi-Touch is actually *supported* but the implementation is different from Capacitive.

Why reviews saying Amazing resistive screen for N900? Because N900's resistive touch screen has great sensitivity, not as good as capacitive, but IMHO, IT'S JUST NICE.
Capacitive sensitivity is OVER SENSITIVE, you can accidentally open an app or hit a key/button easily. And also because of this, it lacks of pressure sensitivity.

To appreciate the resistive, try using the provided simple SKETCH app on the N900. You can use the stylus and choose the PENCIL thickness and start sketching.
For better one, install MyPaint and be amazed how amazing this Resistive touch can do.
Honestly, for a tablet device, I'd choose resistive or capacitive ANYTIME.
But there is a new type of screen which will have both advantages of resistive and capacitive.



QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Aug 13 2010, 12:22 AM)
If it's all about media, undeniably Iphone has it all: music, games, video, beautify touch screen, thousand apps. (with jailbreak, with paid apps)
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Entertainment device YES, iPhone is undeniably the best. But it's useless without a proper ear/headphone or speaker. The built in speaker is rubbish, any cheap phone can beat it. WHY? Can you believe it... iPhone is using only MONO speaker!!!!! and the quality is rubbish!!!!!
How can people still accept this and WHY IN THE WORLD DID APPLE STILL PROVIDE MONO SPEAKER???

As for videos, again, iPhone/iPod Touch have very limited support for files types, even worst than ANY smartphone out there, so again, it's failure. The best? Still N900.

Gaming, no doubt, totally cannot compare, iPhone wins hands down. No smartphone stands a chance, not even N-Gage (which used to be really good, I still remember playing King Of Figthers on my 6600 and play bluetooth against my friend, and that was way way back).

My personal advice?
iPod Touch 3G 32GB - around RM1.1K
(Before iPhone4) iPhone 3GS 32GB - around RM2.9K

iPhone = iPod Touch + Phone + GPS receiver + 3.5M Camera
Price difference = RM2.9K - RM1.1K = around RM.1.8K??? just for the phone + GPS + 3.5M Camera?
Heck, instead of buying the iPhone, I will pay RM1.1K to buy iPod Touch and enjoy all the games.
The remaining RM1.8K, I have many options for many powerful smarthones, which have better GPS receiver, better WiFi, better Camera, everything better, and best of all, I get to ENJOY BOTH.
And btw, iPod Touch 3G is faster than iPhone 3GS and also less problem.
Of course, now there's iPhone4, iPhone 3GS is no longer valuable. Soon, there might be iPod Touch 4?




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QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Aug 13 2010, 09:24 PM)
You must be one of those fat finger users, lolz.
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LoL, don't have to be fat fingers, a normal adult fingers is can easily cover a non-zoom small links for Desktop version website on a 3.5" screen.
Maybe you should get one and try browsing FULL DESKTOP version of Facebook and try to touch with your finger, even using your last finger.
It doesn't need a scientist to figure this out. But then, there're many people who by default set the zoom to maybe 150%~200% or more when browsing. I prefer to browse in original size.


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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Aug 15 2010, 10:33 PM)
hey guys. recently facebook update flash?

I cant load video in facebook sad.gif
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Long time no see man.

Yup, it requires flash, unless the video is linked from YouTube.

You can install the "Tweak Flash" plugin to enable "fake" you Flash version.
It only works if the site is not really using Flash 10, but just requires Flash 10.

http://www.nokian900applications.com/tweak...for-nokia-n900/
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 16 2010, 07:38 AM)
that time retail was RM2080 and AP was like RM1700 +++ he got it for RM1300++ something
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Eh? I thought he got it for RM1K flat?

It was second hand though, I think the owner claimed only used for 1 week or something.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 16 2010, 05:04 PM)
Sometimes its cause by certain apps thats running .
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aspire is right. Some apps or services might be using your storage, like indexing, etc.

You can try restart your phone and re-try.


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