What is grounding?
Before going into grounding, one must understand that when a circuit is running, it is actually electrons running from negative terminal to positive terminal of power source (Battery or Alternator).

You have many electrical appliance inside your car: Fuel pump, Air cond, Light, ICE, Spark plug, etc...
Every one of them have negative and positive terminal as well just like a light bulb you have in your form 5 lab.
Their positive terminal is connected through a bus of positive wires which is linked to battery and alternator's positive terminal.
However the negative terminal of those appliances are connected to car's body with some wires connecting back from car's body to battery's negative terminal (This is oftenly mentioned as GROUNDING).


What if poor grounding?
Your stock car has complete grounding system but it may not be GOOD. Poor grounding means there are RESISTANCE between, if there are resistance, electrons that are trying to pass your electrical appliance will be slowed down or blocked and thus lower the amount of current supplying to those appliances. So what? those appliance doesn't get full current and of course not operating in optimum state.

In old car, the body metal is degraded and not so electrical conductible and thus resistance is even high.


How to know if your car has poor grounding?
All you need is a VoltMeter to measure the electron flow. Normally when you touch the red measuring point of Voltmeter to positive terminal of battery and same for black/negative point, you will get a voltage reading because electrons flow from negative terminal of the batttery through the circuit of voltmeter and then flow out to battery's positive terminal.

For example, we measure how good is alternator's grounding:
First, start your car, then touch voltmeter's red stick to negative terminal of battery and black stick to outter metal of the alternator. If the original grounding is not good, then electron will tend to follow your voltmeter stick to battery's negative terminal and you will see a certain voltage reading.
Well now don't move the voltmeter sticks, use a thick grounding cable to touch the alternator's outter metal and battery's negative terminal and you will notice the voltage dropped, this is because those electrons rather flow through the grounding cable instead because it's better in conductivity. If no voltage drop after you apply the grounding cable, it means that your existing grounding system is good. However don't be so happy about this, you are measuring this while your car is not moving/reving, if you move your car, electron flowing rate is higher (Because alternator is spinning faster) and your existing grounding may not be enough anymore. Not last, you're only measuring the grounding between alternator and battery's negative terminal, there are many points still.

What's next? Car body & Battery negative terminal:
Do the same as above, but the black stick of voltmeter touch on firewall of car body. Same concept as above applied.


Why normally VS come with grounding cable?
After knowing the functionality of grounding cable, you know it serves as basis for optimum circuit performance. If you add a VS into your car, during voltage drop (due to air cond kick, or unstabil voltage pattern by alternator) the VS will try to compensate the drop by supplying electron out so that your appliance feel less of the voltage drop. If you have poor grounding, electrons supplied by the VS cannot reach those appliance fast enough and thus it is not performing at it's full potential.


Which point for your grounding needs?
You have to measure using above mentioned method to determine which is the weak grounding point and apply grounding cable on it. However i believe many people doesn't have this patient or tool to do it, you can refer to following standard points for grounding:

1. Left Body <-> Engine Head
2. Right Body <-> Engine head
3. Firewall <-> Engine head
4. Engine Head <-> Battery Negative Terminal
5. Battery Negative Terminal <-> Body


Safety dos and don't
1. Do not let the grounding cable touching the engine's super hot metal part, you can round the cable through somewhere which is not so hot
2. Do not let the grounding cable hanging somewhere nearby radiator fan, in case the cable goes into the fan haha you know what will happen ?
3. Do not let the grounding cable hanging nearby running aircond belt.
4. Harness your grounding cable tightly.


How to choose good grounding cable?
In the market, there are many brands including HKS imitation, some colorful type, or those very common RED color power cable are having some "problem". Let's look at the step for checking the quality of cable:

1. Look carefully into the cable's insulator thickness, many cables claimed to be 4Gauge however the performance is even worse than 8Gauge or 16 Gauge, you know why ? it's because the insulator is thick and make you feel like the cable is thick but indeed the actual conductor inside is so small or thin.

2. If you can cut the cable, cut it and see how big the diameter of the conductor wires inside, if the conductor wire inside is thick then the grounding cable can conduct more current and it's good. But this may not be true, check out the step 3 before deciding.

3. Copper purity, 80% of cables in the market come with copper + aluminum, some real cheap one even could consist of 10% copper + 90% aluminum where this kind of cable is really useless for grounding cable because the main conductor material is copper not the aluminum, adding aluminum is just to save cost and fill the cable to make it thick.

So if you see those packaged 5 grounding cable offering at price below Rm 50 then you know it is suspicious and could be using one of above methods to fool their customers.

Ok finished with the look of the cable and what if you don't really know how to check with the 3 steps above, now go to something more rigid where we can measure the useful of grounding cable by using DC clamp meter. Install the grounding cable to your car and measure using the clamp meter, if the cable is carrying at 0.5-1 ampere, then either the cable is very poor quality or you're connecting to wrong point (I have a meter, you can request for a test measure if we COD )

The cable that i'm selling here could carry up to 25 amperes so far i have observed in Saga BLM. However current will be distributed if multiple grounding cables is installed in a car, so around 7-15 amperes could be observed and you will know these cable is useful when installed to your car.

Now you know why many people in the forum claimed that grounding cable is useless ? or grounding cable is not suitable for new car ? Get what i mean ?


What i'm selling here?
I'm selling this excellent grounding cable that is thick and suitable enough for vehicle grounding purpose.
I only sell grounding cable with 2 lug in both ends and tubed.


Specification:
- Thick 4 Gauge cable
- Big and thick connection lug (100% copper connection lug made in INDIA, not from china)
- Cable is with blue color insulator that could withstand high heat
- Black tube on both connection end
- 100% pure copper (Beware nowadays 95% cables in market are aluminum cable which is very cheap to produce and high resistance) and oxygen FREE

User feedbacks

Installation?
ask.

How to place order?
1. Determine which point and how you want to put the grounding cable
2. Measure the length of grounding cable in CM (Centi-meter)
3. Determine if both end need ring to be soldered
4. PM me with following sample format:
1X40CM + 2 Ring
2X70CM + 4 Ring

If you have no idea, just pm me and i'll guide you.

Price
Please pm me.

Delivery Charge
Depends on quantity you ordered, coz it could be very heavy.
Min RM 6.00 (Pos Laju)
Can combine shipment with my DIY VS to get lower shipping rate, i'll determine the rate for you depending on your order quantity.

Dealing
COD at Puchong or postage
Contact me at 0122083331 for more information
Or email me at erictioh84@gmail.com
Or add me in YM at ID: erictioh

Car Samples

PERODUA MYVI:


PERODUA VIVA:


PERODUA KEMBARA:


PROTON SAGA BLM:


PROTON WIRA / SATRIA:


PROTON SATRIA NEO:


PROTON ISWARA:


PROTON WAJA:


PROTON PERSONA:


HONDA CITY VTEC 06:


TOYOTA VIOS 08:


HONDA ACCORD 02:


KIA FORTE 1.6:


TOYOTA ALTIS:


TOYOTA CAMRY 08:


TOYOTA AVANZA:


HYUNDAI ACCENT:
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HONDA CIVIC 10:


TOYOTA VIOS 05:
1. 45CM Left Body - Alternator
2. 23CM Alternator - Front Left Body
3. 55CM Right Engine Head - Right Body
4. 47CM Right Body - Battery

TOYOTA SEG:
1. 140CM Alternator - Battery
2. 60CM Right Engine Head - Battery
3. 60CM Left body - Firewall
4. 95CM Firewall - Battery

PERODUA KELISA:


HYUNDAI MATRIX:
1. 60CM Right Firewall - Battery
2. 140CM Alternator - Battery
3. 55CM Engine Head - Battery

TOYOTA HARRIER:
1. 40CM Left Body - Left Engine Head
2. 130CM Alternator - Battery
3. 60CM Right Engine Head - Battery
4. 35CM Right Body - Battery

PROTON PERDANA:
1. 55CM Battery - Left Engine Head
2. 25CM Firewall - Throttle Pin
3. 75CM Throttle Pin - Left Engine Head
4. 55CM Battery - Left Body

REXTON:
1. 75CM Front Engine Head - Battery
2. 65CM Rear Engine Head - Right Firewall
3. 90CM Right Firewall - Battery

NISSAN X-TRAIL:
1. 60CM Right Engine Head - Battery
2. 60CM Right Engine Head - Right Body
3. 130CM Alternator - Battery
4. 50CM Front Left Body - Alternator

This post has been edited by erictioh: Dec 20 2012, 05:35 PM


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buy more got discount?

Price fixed bro. You can't get elsewhere with this type of quality cable at this price.

bro eric... may i know what is the copper purity of your cable?

100% copper and oxygen free cable.

how many cable and ring is needed for saga BLM?? i wan to do max performance

bro...can pm and explain more bout the grounding cable?
where to put the cable and connect where?

Alternator <-> Body 2
Body 1 <-> Body 2
Engine head <-> batt
Body 2 <-> batt

4 cable, 8 rings.

Bro, please read my 1st post.

bro can quote me best price for 4cables and 8 rings?

Hi bro, can quote me price for Myvi SE? Thanks. Got a VS from you the other time if you remembered. x)

Yeah, remember, please measure it and order according to the format i set. I only can suggest for saga BLM coz im driving that

okok. will see what i can do, not too sure bout these things. ehehe.

bro can u help me do measurement and give me the price i needed to pay? if do a tutorial for me bcause i not realli body 1<> body 2.

Haha...Eric....got any good Accesories shop u can recommend to install ur Grounding cable? When i get the VS can u show me roughly how u test the ground cable....I am noob leh... hahahaha

Ok you have to allow me some time to do it for u.


I don't know oh . I can show u but you got to find way to install it urself

bro...the grounding wire is it the same one as used in welding job or is it comparable to this:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=920581

if yes i want to order 2 unit from u

Yes similiar item. Order using the format i set ya.

err bro...i need 2 sets for body <> alternator for campro engine...urs is blm kan? u suggest la i oso dunno how long haha...hmmm u suggest can?

Ok la, blm again haha. Tonight i go back measure.

if i'm not mistaken around 30-40cm but u confirm for me first la ok hehe...i lazy wanna go down my flat just to measure ahaha

Alternator <-> Body 2
Body 1 <-> Body 2
Engine head <-> batt
Body 2 <-> batt

4 cable, 8 rings.

After u measured then PM me the price and deliver to me ~~ hehe and do some tutorial where to install o~ because i'm zero knowledge about car @@

harloooooo

sorry guys was busy, Monday only let u guys know ya

any recommendation for honda city ?

waiting for u ~~~i'm waiting for u ~~~ waiting for u reply me the grounding cable~~

Hi Eric...previously I already purchase ur VS..its working, thanks dude..
Now i want install grounding cable as following:-
1. Alternator <-> Battery Negative Terminal
2. Body <-> Battery Negative Terminal
You can apply 2-3 cable on this, front body, firewall, or just look for those stock ground point.
3. Engine Head <-> Battery Negative Terminal
or
Suggest me the best grounding points for saga blm n qoute me ur price thanks..

Hi bro i also installed 2 in my BLM it work better xD
But i think need gounding cable to work more efficient.
u can see what i post on the top post because that is eric suggest me to install gounding kit places.

yo bro waiting for my VS and tada here comes ur grounding cable =) good job. please quote me a set of grounding cables for my nissan sunny.

Hey guys, sorry for delay here is the measurement for saga blm:

130CM Engine head to batt
130CM Alternator to batt
48CM Body right point to batt
125CM body left to body right

Total: 433CM

Yo Eric.. Matthew here...
Install the grouding cable this morning...All i can say is driving smooth with ur grounding and VS.

Matthew, I assume you had the VS installed first before u put in the Grounding.
What is the feel like after Grounding; more torque n smoother acceleration than before you had with the VS.
How many Grounding pts?

Bro so how much is the total price?

Pmed.

yes..install VS before grounding. With grounding + VS u can feel the acceleration more better and engine more quiter

i install 3 point only...

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1436095/+1660

Hi bro you did a good job, 1 thing your engine block to light ground point better tight up with something coz in case drop might hit the air cond belt.

Dun worry...i notice that...i use cable tie.....

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Added on July 29, 2010, 9:37 ami more thing... the cable from engine block pass through engine top...will it withstand the engine heat ?


This post has been edited by muslayer: Jul 29 2010, 09:37 AM

That part is not so boiling hot, the cable can withstand that heat easily, don pass thru the place where you can't even touch with ur finger for less than 1 second (Damn hot).

2x50cm + 4 ring...price?

Eric u got PM..

All pm replied

so excited... goods in on the way ~~ xD

I was waiting for some of the pictures from eric....
Fear la...later already purchase dont know where to put...

Eric u got PM..

Bro, u get the same thing as i get suggested by Eric??
Between u are the one from Butterworth?

Saga BLM sample picture with line drawn posted, please refer to 1st post thanks.

eric is mine ready??

Pmed.

thx brother eric the pic is more easier to see

bro, welcome and remember to ask if you have question on installation

yoo hoo~~ i back my home ad !! and i already saw the grouning kit
Damn it is super thick !!
maybe later midnight or tml morning will "try" to install

Bro。。。For SAGA BLM..same like your car.....need how much 1 set???can pm me???thank you...^^

Allo bro Eric... Item received and installed.. Well what can I say, air cond much more cooler.. Compressor kicks in less- noticeable and other things yet to observe.. n that's grounding cable solely without VS people.. Definitely well worth it...

haha bro, you know that's 12mm thick cable, the copper is fine and conductivity is great that's why it's very suitable for grounding purpose Wanna get 1 VS to try out ? hehe

i need 2 set....1 for waja 1 for suzuki swift sport...5 point...

Haha agree agree... Well I thought I'm already in the list of the VS..

oh yaya, sorry your name is in

Bro, to install the grounding kit need to get the screw izzit? @@
Where got sell har? @@

Any hardware shop got sell.

Any other colour of grounding cable available ?

Hi Andy, currently i only have yellow color

Today already COD the Ground cable........the product is 100% worth it.....just buy it with confident.....the seller is very nice guy......highly recommended to every one who looking good ground wire......thank you erictioh....

Where is the firewall that need to ground, i mean which part is call firewall.

thanks bro, got time yam cha and discuss what to have for your drifter

Firewall is the wall between cabin and engine, under wind screen. Connection 1 or 2 points in the firewall is good.

just wondering, is it better to just get 2 VS from you... or 1 VS plus the grounding cable?? which will have more significant effects?

To do grounding or not is depending on car to car, if your car has poor grounding then better grounding + 1 vs. Of course extreme one would be grounding + 2 VS.

If you want to save cost on grounding, just put for some important points: Alternator, Engine head, and 1 body grounding. Also, you can save cost by route grounding cable with shortest path.

pm me grounding cable for saga BLM? if cod with u can help install it?

for waja campro cps.. whole set got?

All replied.

Eric, do you have 5 or 6 points ready made for S.Swift and Chery Eastar? How much?

Hi bro, not for swift and chery yet, you can measure for me then i'll build for you ya.

Thanks bro, will see how to measure.

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Added on August 18, 2010, 11:01 amJust wonder. Are you connecting the cable to lug by soldering or compress way? Just curious bcos it makes lots of different in current conductivity.

This post has been edited by smliu: Aug 18 2010, 11:01 AM

by soldering. clipping on is not good, after dirts on it, the connection will lost.

Soldering is good. Thanks Eric.
If we use this cable for grounding, what about +ve power cable from alternator to battery? Do you have better quality cable? How long do you need to prepare b4 postage?
When the measurement is 1.8m, do you charge 2m or exactly 1.8m price?

You can use the same cable for positive as well but you got to buy a big audio fuse to connect in between. It's 0.18/cm, just times with how many cm you order, easy math ain't it ?

Ok, will measure and make order by this week ends. Thanks.

How come this stuff is called grounding cable? Its connected within the car only.. diden reach ground also?

Grounding means letting current flow back to another lower potential (Negative). Electrical grounding however is from appliance to power source negative terminal.

Those ground that buried in soil are for safety where in case excessive charges generated, it will be grounded there and not cause wire heated up so much and catch fire (This is done for your home rather than car).

You may ask what the little thread/rubber hanging at the back of your car ? that's for static charge grounding but not for your car's electrical circuit ground.

The grounding cable i'm selling here is for car's electrical system, it's to improve current flow in every electrical appliance.

Grounding means letting current flow back to another lower potential (Negative). ----> Does tis mean creating equal potential all around ur car issit?

This post has been edited by dello: Aug 26 2010, 10:21 PM

partially correct, because grounding cable connect in diff points with diff length, so they have diff resistance also thus cannot be equal, however it's to improve it to certain extend.

can u install grounding cable on saga blm and i wan to buy 2 vs....asap pls....

pmed

bro. tonight do u free to msn me? i got problem in installing grounding on alternator To battery negative.

bro..

if i get static after driving.. when i touch the metal part of my car (e.g. door) from outside (when my feet is on the ground).. does it means my car's grounding is poor? or it doesn't have anything to do with that?

What do u think?

I think that has very little to do with car electrical grounding, it is actually due to your air cond is blowing very dry air and causing your skin to generate much static charge than when you're outside the car (E.g. at home). When your skin has mach static charges and you try to touch on the body of car, you will see spark. The spark occurs is because those charges will flow back to battery's negative (Ground) in order to get balanced.

Meaning that if your skin doesn't have those static charges, you will not have problem touching any metal parts of the car. Do 1 experiment, do not turn on your air cond and drive for some time then touch metal part of your car and most probably you will feel less or no spark. Add osim air humidifier to your car perhaps haha.

if u dun mind...

another reason for d static charges is due to the contact between driver n d seat...

tat's y it's not recommended for driver to enter car while re-fueling
when driver exits and remove the pump...zap...

aah.. i see.. haha.. thanks for the tips..

Perhaps some in car ionizer would help on this, how helpful have to depends on the ion density the ionizer could emit.

Item received in good conditions, and the cable look more solid and thicker than in photo
very good seller too!

i read ur post about the connection between wire and the ring, u use soldering to do it. U mean normal electronic soldering or got some heavy duty soldering?The rubber dat ur using as the sealing is heat shrink rubber is it?The one dat shrink tight when we put heat on it.

I use good quality asahi japan made solder lead. The rubber is call tube.

bro, do you how long the cable i need for vios?

hi bro, no measurement for vios yet, if you're convenient can meet up at puchong tesco so that i can measure for u

hi bro eric...

do you have the dimensions for kia forte?

i was wondering if you can do a set of 5 point cables for me and provide installation...

Yesterday just COD with eric for his grounding cable. This is the 3rd time i deal with eric. Great seller, very responsible. Even show me some photo to DIY.

After self gc installation, notice able change on my facelift myvi EZI. Eventhough i installed 2 eric's VS 1st.
Conclusion is manufacturer grounding cable can't beat Eric's grounding cable.

I don't have measurement for forte yet. We can schedule and i can measure it for u.

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Added on September 17, 2010, 3:51 pmThanks bro, enjoy your VS + GC

This post has been edited by erictioh: Sep 17 2010, 03:51 PM