I think your contractor's price r reasonable. Do consider other item which better to complete b4 u move in as it is troublesome to do in future.

1. Alarm/ CCTV, some said can find some wireless motion detector, it will activate the backyard light when someone passing. The cost is cheap~ where to get that?
2. Water Filter, plan to get delcol brand. around 1.2k - 3k
3. or should i make it 6ft or 7ft?
4. I plan to use some wallpaper on it. For wallpaper, the price for 1 roll is about RM120-Rm200, normally 10ftx10ft wall needs 3 rolls.

U may want to consider following:-
1. ya~! Mirror is important! where can i get cheap mirror with that size?
2. Shower screen, 10cm thick around 1.5k - 2k, only can be installed for the master bedroom's toilet. others toilet seems too small to fit that.
3.Lock set, since i will change the door to security door. so can skip that.
4. ermmm...can i do this my own?
5. Panasonic inverter, heard that it's about RM1799, where can i get dealer price?


Thanks 4 remind me~!

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Added on July 18, 2010, 1:43 amyes~!! now the paramount is selling the Damai Residences. Just visited the showhouse 2 days ago. Looks nice~! i love the tempered glass roofing above the car porch. For the interior, it is almost the same with the indah residences. Just the backyard's ground floor without the tiles roof. They make it into a small simen compound. You can use it 2 place your aircon's power engine...(what is it be called? If the aircon blower is a kid, then that thing is his mother) @_@ , or you can plant your favorite flowers or cactus there...and the front alluminium design / stainly steel thing is larger, slightly different from the previous indah residences.

The 1st interior design of the showhouse looks great~! i love how they put the music speaker on the plaster ceiling.

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Added on July 18, 2010, 2:45 am
Here is the update list for my latest quotation, but i still not yet confirm it yet.
I hav decided to split the jobs to 3 types of contractors.


1st Contractor for cement work
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Car porch with tiles - RM3800
Plaster Ceiling - RM2700
Dark tempered Windows to replace the front sliding doors - RM1800
Break 2 Walls x 2 = RM900
Filling up 1 toilet's door with tiles - RM850
Wall to cover up the staircase, with stainless steel rods - RM3000
Backyard 5ft Fence with tiles - RM3600 ( price maybe will increase for higher ft)

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TOTAL - RM 16650
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Wiring, Estimated budget
Light points RM70 x 10 = RM700
Plug points, RM90 x 10 = RM900
Aircon Point, RM200 x 4 = RM800
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TOTAL - RM2500
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2nd Contractor for the Steel & security thing
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Front Gate (14x5 ft) Stainless Steel (100% stainless steel) - Rm5000 ( he told me that alot of fake stainless steel, will get rusty for some part, his 1 is original)
Auto Gate Motor System with Jet thg - RM 1300
Security Door (powder coating) Main door + backyard door, 5x7' & 3x7' - RM3600
( << but i got found that wooden security door looks nicer, n the price is cheaper, still considering)
Polycarbonate Roofing - RM3200

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TOTAL - RM 13100
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For the lights, i hav planned to buy my own.

Downlights = RM35 x 30 = RM1050
T-lights = RM20 x 20 = RM400
Wall Lights = RM100 x 2 = RM200
Pendants = RM1000 x 3 = RM2000
Gatewall Lights = RM100 x 2 = RM200
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TOTAL - RM4850
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3rd contractor Lights installation, Aircon, Water filter
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The following price is estimated price, not yet doing survey

Air-Con, Panasonic Inverter - RM1800 x 4 = RM 7200 (* LG inverter RM1399)
FAN, KDK - RM300 x 4 = RM1200
Refrigerator, LG / Panasonic - RM4000
Water Heater x 1 = RM500 with shower paip

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TOTAL - RM12900
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ALL TOTAL - RM 16650 + RM2500 + RM 13100 + RM4850 + RM12900
= RM50000 (RM50k)~!~!! GHAM GHAM!!


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IS IT FINISH? NOT YET!~!~!
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KITCHEN - estimated <RM 20k ( I haven't get the quotation yet. still waiting 4 the contractors to send me)

Kitchen Materials, Granite surface (heard that black crystal galaxy granite is now very cheap), 3G glass door (must diamond cut), soft close.

I saw 1 promotion from the Reno&Decor Magazines vol.16, (upcoming Renovation Expo 2010) 1 Clean Hood + valve + Oven (electrolux) within RM2500, the lowest price it can go is RM1400 depends of brand.


WHAT ELSE?
CABINET - should i buy from IKEA? Many say bad about IKEA's products. it won't last long..
SOFA - i wan rozel, lorenzo....when is their 70% promotion? RM4000
Dining Table~ Rm1500 can get a very modern 1.
Bed~ Dunopillo? King Koil? Getha? Tempura? Satay? Kacang? RM2500++?? use Tilam enough lar...
TV!! - Samsung 32' LCD / LED, RM3500
Curtain - RM1500
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TOTAL - RM14k++

Others thing like clock ar, carpet arr, bath tub arr, pasu bunga, pokok arr, decoration items.........RM500 for it lar.


Today, i visited the LDP furniture. I visited all the shops there...
every products got promotion. very nice, some sofa r half leather, some r mixed leather... ermm i really donno how to differentiate it.
But really, their price is damn cheap!! (coz i donno the price margin, or bcoz i hav viewed too many renovation costs, which make me feels that furniture is cheap?)

I also visit another furniture shop, which gives promotion, < RM5k for 1 half leather sofa, +RM1 get a free coffee table worth RM1.2k++
So many promotion!!!
i asked 1 of the seller there, when do the promotion end? she said: it will end when it meet their buyers. So, everyday is promotion day for every single items. She said wanna buy fast fast buy larr, petrol is up, everything is going to be up~ buy buy buy~~

Then i said, thanks, bye bye~~

This post has been edited by WKWebsite: Jul 18 2010, 02:55 AM

If you don't use your air conditioner for more than 8 hours, or like to set your temperature below 20 degree, then you don't need to buy inverter type, it won't save much. for me, I just want to buy one inverter air conditioner in my bed room, from my survey, hitachi is the one that has pretty good EER, can save more money in long term.

TS's quotation is quite costly i think

It rather surprise u r using service of 3 contractors.
better make sure proper coordination especially finishing eg.
The wet work (concrete) guy likely to finish his work first but
electrical guy normally install switches after painting. who is responsible
for the finishing as the electrical guy may not have the material or tool.

1. Wireless item cause problem eg weak battery, ineffective sensor. U want
to do it, better ask the wireman to install a proper wire one.
2. I got my mirror at RM 1k v nyotoh frame. Its special price from friend.
I understand Designer charge RM 1.8k for that. I suppose u can get one
at price somewhere in between. There is one glass/ mirror shop at SS14 Subang.

* Do consider the location of phone point (broad band computer) n Astro point. The existing location provided by developer may not be ideal n u do not want the wire to run everywhere.
* Also consider the piping for 2nd water heater as it need the water source from main. It looks ugly in future if u decided to install a second one.
run everywhere.
* if u r doing heavy cooking. u better get a good hood.
U do not want a hook that just look good but not effective especially u don't have a wet kitchen (i suppose).

# u under estimate the electrical fitting costs especially if u want nice switches. U should also re-look at the location of power point at kitchen, living area, second hall (up stair) which i find the 10 r not sufficient.
# cabinet n bedroom set for guest room?
# 32" TV is too small as it is wide screen. U need at least 40"

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Added on July 18, 2010, 9:27 pmInstall Inverter type is more than just $ saving.
The inverter receive power at minimal range (when start) and adjust according to the temp.
The normal air cond receive power at maximum and only lower subsequently.
If u switch several air-cond + big fridge + water heater, u may need to visit your DB box
frequently (short term) n other problem (long term).

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Added on July 18, 2010, 9:47 pmI hope everyone is sincere when providing opinion
n not for the sick of fighting for business. If an estimation
is expensive, may b is good to provide example n reason:-

Eg if a car porch area = 30 x 20,
u need min 600 pieces tiles x provision 30 pieces (exclude skirting)= 630
if your tiles costs RM 4 per piece, its already > RM 1.2k
Cement, sand ?
Indonesian labour for tiling r classified as semi skill to skill. daily rate = RM60- 80
Remove and cart away unwanted material etc

So it is useful for us when there is cost estimation in detail n give your best cost for comparison

let businessman make bit of profit after take into consideration of wastage, otherwise
u will get workers quarter standard when u wanted a house.


This post has been edited by 9replica: Jul 18 2010, 09:47 PM

Some works are overlapping each other. If you split into 3 contractor, can you handle the site coordination works? Do you know what comes first?

Since you have the 3 quotation, choose the lowest for each job, and sum it together. Then throw it back to the 3 contractor and say "This is all I've got, are you willing to do it?"

TS? is the name of the contractor? I heard ppl said that this contractor take money n run~ kena police case leh..

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Added on July 19, 2010, 10:42 amFor the first will be the Concrete work, wiring plumbing i will give to the same contractor,

then will be the installation for the lights, bulbs, aircon, water filter.

Last will be the security thing like the gates, door, roofing.

Is it ok?

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Added on July 22, 2010, 10:31 pmMy Kitchen Quotation.


KITCHEN AREA
1. 1 no 3'0"LX24"WX96"H Fridze cabinet.
2. 1 no 24"LX24"WX96"H Oven cabinet
3. 1 no 18"LX24"Wx96"H Storage cabinet
3a. 4 nos 450mm pull out basket
4. 1 no 10'6"Lx24"WX34"H Base unit.
4a. 1 no drawers set wit smoonth cloose runner.
5. 1 no 10'6"LX12"WX36"H Top unit.
6. 1 no 10'6"Lx24"WX40mm Garnite top & undermount sink
7. 42 nos softclose hinges
8. 2 nos softdown way
9. Labourer charges for relacated piping woork & made good. L/sum RM 14,500

or

1. 1 no storage cabinet
2. 4 nos 450mm pull out basket
3. 1 no 9'0"LX24"wX34"H Base unit
4. 1 no drawers set with smooth close runner
5. 1 no 9'0"Lx12"WX36"H Top unit.
6. 1 no 9'0'Lx24"WX40mm ganite top & undermount sink
7. 33 nos softclose hinges
8. 2 nos softdown way
9. Labourer charges for relocated piping work & made good. L/sum RM 11,500

why dont they list out the price for each 1....gr.r.r.r.r.r..

This post has been edited by WKWebsite: Jul 22 2010, 10:31 PM

the price he give is reasonable. but i can give you cheaper

anybody can quote me the following please?

1. 20x70 (extremely run down condition)
- extension all the way to the back including knocking down existing walls at existing dry kitchen. approximate 20x7 ft
- to redo all 3 bathrooms include stripping of all wall and floor tiles and replacing with new tiles
- to redo 1st floor flooring with new engineered timber flooring approximately 900 sq ft
- to redo ground floor flooring including removal of existing terrazo and replacing with 2x2 ft homogenuous tiles
- to provide new piping (prefer conceal) and wiring (3 phase if possible) to all points
- to provide master pump for piping
- to provide roof for porch (approximately 20x10 ft)
- to provide floor finishes (combination of pebble wash and floor tiles) to porch area approximate 20x20 ft
- painting to interior and exterior
- installation of all fittings eg. solar heater, grilles, lighting, ceiling fans, AC, etc
- to provide new powder coated aluminium window and sliding door

2. 22x80
- extension of 22x7 ft for wet kitchen
- to redo all 3 bathrooms include stripping of all wall and floor tiles and replacing with new tiles
- to provide master pump for piping
- to provide roof for porch (approximately 22x15 ft)
- to provide floor finishes (combination of pebble wash and floor tiles) to porch area approximate 22x25 ft
- painting to interior and exterior
- installation of all fittings eg. solar heater, grilles, lighting, ceiling fans, AC, etc
- to provide new powder coated aluminium window and sliding door

thanks.

TS, do continue to update us.. i'm gonan get my house key soon.. looking at ur quaotation.. @.@ it easily sore up to 100k.

i plan 50k for renovation at 1st... as i read tru ur plans.. man. i need to overhaul mine!

all is lump sum. no break down quantity. You may get slaughter. Ask for breakdown quantity.no such thing as lump sum or 1 unit or 1 lot.

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Added on August 5, 2010, 6:29 pmgranite top is expensive, try change it to marble top or solid surface top.

check out http://www.hauss.com.my/catalog/

call for breakdown parts price

This post has been edited by vexus: Aug 5 2010, 06:30 PM

try to google for looi's brothers...in realestate.net.my..they can do kitchen cheap...from color studio..i think they can do all the reno...check their FB..

TS really rich ...

how good if i got 50k for renovation ...
looking forward for more pic from TS

Sorry to ask how do you calculate RM8/sqft ? isn't it 36x65 = 2340sqft ?

If my corner house which is total 35ftx60ft, how much will you charge if wanna do brick wall + 1 auto gate.

almost a yr old thread...dunno how is WK reno going @_@

nowadays, a DECENT (only) modern looking reno would cost ~RM100k.

ya, wonder why WK did not update the status.