who's leading?

why? both cater different market. putra/wira co-existed happily side-by-side.

coupe market is rather niche here.

but cerato forte & cerato koup are selling together in singapore...who knows...

being a cbu, it could probably meant as additional bonus for Naza if it sells. if it doesn't, they'll probably firesale it after few years, lol.

kia sportage FL

can any forte 2.0 owner share their FC here? tbh, i haven't been seeing much info on this.

to me, FC is among the top criteria for me because i am a heavy on car use.

that is FC for the 1.6 or 2.0?

1.6 & 2.0 FC is marginal? how's that possible? the car weights much for 1.6, IMO. among the reason i skipped it when i tested the 1.6. the engine is always revving to maintain decent acceleration. i've driven a car fitted with the Theta ii 2.0, so i more or less know how much power that engine has compared to the 1.6 gamma. it was most obvious from standstill.

i have been pestering kia showrooms to inform me for any 2.0 testdrive, but till today they can't provide one. i was hoping the 2.0 was the best engine to get for the Forte, in terms of balance between power & FC.

off topic : test drove the Chevy Cruze, which is also a kimchi new model. have to say, it suffers the same driving impression i had with the 1.6 forte. reluctant to move forward, but it gets smooth once it does. relaxed driving for highway cruising but bad for mixed town drive.

thx star.

so i know now roughly the FC forte 2.0 is going. thx again!

adding another model to my list, =)

he's gonna say it was his wife's, not his. therefore, technically it was his wife's car that butthurt him, but that doesn't make it korean car because he didn't own it himself.

read the over thread Vios Vs Forte. He can even spin "will be" as not "will be". that's like Bill Clinton when he said the meaning of "is", "is"...

you didn't even replied the other thread...that's why i said it here. i quoted your whole post, but still you refuse to acknowledge it. instead, you prefer to say "will be" as not "will be" and go on and on.

last post

you request that i quote the whole sentence before determining the meaning of the things you said. i quoted your whole post, & you can still refuse "will be" is not "will be"?

what else can we say?

from the info posted so far, it does somehow confirms that the car in the vid is almost 80% the new civic. the 20% doubt would be if the response is so bad, honda makes a last minute change to it. but given todays spyshot accuracy...i think that's almost not likely.

most of the spyshot of the cars recently launched are almost identical. i guess this civic will be no different.

Every dog will has its day, including the bad days.

let's just wait and see how the final civic will be launched. it might not be so bad...maybe.

aduih...not a good move by Naza branch. this is exactly what will plague potential Forte / korean buyers. bandit/robber styled salesperson....sigh, the mentality.

why not? our pdrm forces could ram the Evo into a cliff. shouldn't be too hard getting away on lesser capable cars.

that....is also true, =). actually i feel sad when you say that. sad because it's happening here in my country.