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post Sep 8 2010, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(nite_eif @ Sep 8 2010, 01:39 AM)
i see, thanks bro izputra for reply..
but they make my eyes cannot focus on the road, cos directly at the fws driver area..really nothing can be done ke..
mine one quite many scratches, more than 10..all around 0.5 - 1.0 cm..

my tint was mid-range one, not high end..so is it same thing happens for the high end one..let say 3m or huper or llumar?
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As long as they cut the tint film on the FWS/window, same thing might happen again provided the apply enough pressure to cut it.
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post Sep 14 2010, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(bezet @ Sep 14 2010, 08:55 PM)
demand pictar of the limited edition.
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Especially the sunroof wink.gif really envy laa...
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post Sep 15 2010, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(kiaforteclub @ Sep 15 2010, 08:18 AM)
aiks u come down ah!
come our TT @ oldboy tonite la drool.gif
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Yalorr..come la bro xion. i will come also..hopefully.
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post Sep 15 2010, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(So2n @ Sep 15 2010, 01:42 PM)
Can anybody "poison" me on the SX version? cause those features in SX version don't really important to me, except the ESC, i would rather go for EX...
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If u have enough money, get the SX i would say. The interior trim is more luxurious & as far as safety is your main concern, the ESC alone will justify your extra buck..u dont know when u need the ESC the most later on.
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post Sep 17 2010, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Sep 17 2010, 11:25 AM)
Colonel, why need 12L? the one that i get is 4L only in which expected to be not more than rm600 (with fully synthetic)
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Correct thumbup.gif for 40k service, should not exceed RM600 for Fully Sync oil (as stated on Nazakia website). 12L? Maybe KFC wanna flush the ATF 2 times for a sparkling clean gearbox..no metal debris whatsoever tongue.gif
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post Sep 17 2010, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(rhaizo @ Sep 17 2010, 03:27 PM)
hi guys,

im an inch close getting a forte for myself. suddenly my friend came and kept telling me that kia's spare parts are expensive. so owning a forte is expensive in a long run

can anybody advice me on this?
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All original spare/consumable parts are expensive including Toyota, Honda, Nissan..etc, not necessarily Kia. If u able to find cheap spare/consumable parts for those cars, i bet u it was an imitation one (so many imitation parts nowadays in our market). So beware.


Added on September 17, 2010, 4:47 pm
QUOTE(XionCity @ Sep 17 2010, 03:30 PM)
izputra fetch me there n bck. Thx 4 the tt there, hopefully oct can join tt wif u all in pg. I nw still at kl, till 19th. Hopefully my dad allow me 2 stay til 20th.
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Lol!..u already big enough maa..wanna stay KL for few days more also need your dad's permission mehh? tongue.gif

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post Sep 18 2010, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(dafthamsta @ Sep 18 2010, 10:49 AM)
Nope, checked it out already... can shift into R without depressing the footbrake.
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I can double confirm that for the 2.0. & both 1.6 MY versions also should be the same. Our Forte is not equipped with this feature.


Added on September 18, 2010, 11:50 am
QUOTE(Deznom @ Sep 18 2010, 09:03 AM)
guys.. any news on the 5 year warranty plan for the forte?? btw.. if i take the 2.0.. any chance i can get a cashback by replacing the leather seats with the fabric ones? dont really like leather
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No confirm news yet for the 5 year warranty & for the leather seat, I dont think so bro..anyway, kindly check it out with the Nazakia sales advisor

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post Sep 20 2010, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(samforte @ Sep 20 2010, 01:57 PM)
Anybody know sirra glow contact no ?  biggrin.gif
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http://www.sierraglow.com/contact.htm


Added on September 20, 2010, 3:06 pm
QUOTE(vincentteng @ Sep 20 2010, 01:36 PM)
Hey guys, is it true that the "seatbelt chimes and the signal function" has been removed for Kia Forte M'sia version?
The seatbelt signal seems not working at all ("for show only") whether I've buckled my seatbelt or not. Please advise...thanks
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It is perfectly normal...

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post Sep 21 2010, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 21 2010, 01:44 PM)
We're only comparing the 1.6EX and the Vios 1.5J so the ESC doesn't come into play.
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Correct..but then, based on price, it is worth also if we can compare between Vios E with the Forte 1.6SX or perhaps the TRD Sportivo with the 2.0SX! (ignorable price different) wink.gif
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post Sep 26 2010, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(kaigraphy @ Sep 26 2010, 04:23 AM)
lol...haha maybe you're right...imagine buying a shing new car 2.0 and then get smoke by a 3yrr old 2.0 cifat!! damn that car... how come all these manufacturer produce engine so low in power compare??? cannot be right...I thought many have said the forte 2.0 engine more power and I thought the car lighter as well...how can all these advantage the forte is behind the cifat??? but I think like many have...no body know for sure...gona do more research and test dirve!...

oh yeah test driven the mazda 3...imho damn good car but omfg very the expensive...gonna keep my hope up for the 2.0 forte...
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Yup..Forte 2.0 got enough power, but the 4 speeder autobox doesn't do justice to it. If Forte uses 5 or 6 speed AT, perhaps it can easily keep up the pace with other benchmarkers. Anyway, i'm not saying that the 4 speed AT in the Forte is not up to the task. For most ordinary driver like me, it perform good enough if not excellent..& of course i dont care about a split second difference for 0-100km/h sprint. If the other car can accelerate slightly faster than our car..so what? There are always many any other cars that can accelerate better than that car (or our car). Even the 1.4 VW Golf TSI (not to say the more ferocious 2.0 Golf GTI) can put (smoke) our 2.0 behind it in no time (i'm purely comparing the sprint time, regardless the car's segment, weight or whatsoever). If we are going to end this, maybe we have to own ourself a Bugatti Veyron or sort of that whistling.gif

& I'm not going to be defensive here, for me, I will choose the safety of 6 airbags in the Forte anytime (not to say the long list of extra goodies & its reasonable price) rather than the hardly noticeable difference in acceleration time (in comparison with the Civic to be exact) icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 28 2010, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 28 2010, 09:49 AM)
Latest sales figures for August 2010:

Vios - 3192 (22,673)
City - 1901 (14,060)
Civic - 1016
Avanza - 924
Camry - 901
Accord - 728
Forte - 448 (3722)
Altis - 390 (3788)
Sylphy - 331
Mazda2 - 181
Peugeot - 161]
Lancer - 152

Im kinda surprised actually. For all that hype about the Forte & despite being in the market since Nov 2009, its overall sales for this year is still below the Altis sales. That too despite the new Altis being launched much earlier at March 2008 almost 1.5 yrs before the Forte. Im surprised as the Forte has got better specs & pricing than the Altis and usually new models sell well. But i guess the after sales service and resale value factors still weigh down the Forte considerably. I wonder how the Sonata will do in next month's figures.
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Yaa..this kind of fight will never end. Everyone got their own perspectives, factors & priorities when buying a car. As for me, i did my 'homework' before buying a car. As of when i bought my Forte end of last year, this car (Forte 2.0) is the best car (at least for me) for my 100k budget. So for less than 94k, i can get a 2.0L C segment sedan car, with loads of safety equipment in which the even overpriced T&H 2.4L D segment cars are ashamed of & lot of other useful goodies (too long to list it, just read the details in the website). i ask myself, is there any other sedan car (sub 100k in price) that can match up the Forte's offering that comes with 6 airbags, Electronic Stability Control, Keyless Entry with engine start stop button, full auto-aircond, auto-cruise, auto headlight, heated side mirror demisters etc...(to name a few)?? The clear answer is NO! So in my case, the Forte is a clear winner. & i dont care on how the SC (Nazakia service centre) will treat me when i send my car there for a scheduled maintenance. I might send my car there only twice a year anyway. Besides Nazakia SCs, I have sent my 2 previous cars to Proton SCs, my wife & in-law car to Perodua SCs & my father's Vios to Toyota SC before for a scheduled maintenance, if my memory still serves me well, i can conclude that there is not much different among these SCs in term of waiting time, comfort or even inter-personal relationship between customer & SC officers though. For original spare parts, i dont think that Forte's spare parts price are much higher in comparison with Jap makes unless we compare it to the T, H & N imitation spare parts (which floods our spare part market). Only the parts availability is the main concern for the Forte as of now coz Nazakia yet to stick to their plan to produce it locally.

& bro cybermaster, supporting your words with a true facts is a wise practice. However, for the sales figure u published to us here, for me it just shows Malaysian mindset towards T&H. No matter how good & well specced the Korean make their cars, most Malaysian will still go for Jap cars no matter how overpriced & 'empty' the car is. This is due to long built reputation of the Jap cars coz they have long history here & the fact that previous Korean cars tarnished their very own brand. Korean makes as a newcomer have to survive all this by introducing a well package car with attractive pricing + reliability in mind. That is what they exactly did with the Forte now & other new cars to come. As the time goes by, the reputation of Korean cars will rise but it will take years probably to be on par with Jap cars (in term of reputation). But by looking at the sale figures, i can see that the trend is there & the figure for Forte should be much higher if Nazakia can supply (Forte) according to demand especially for the 2.0..but they cant due to limited quota given by the Korean principal. I know this sounds defensive, but it is a fact.

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post Sep 28 2010, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 28 2010, 10:46 AM)
The delays are due to Naza's internal problems as usual. The same problem occured with some other models. The issue about demand is all salesman talk la. Already almost 1 year since the launch and still the same excuse? This excuse may have been valid for the first few months as its with many other car makes as they try to gauge response before ramping up production. But after almost 1 yr there is no such excuse. This problem is nothing to do with Kia but the local Naza dealership itself. Typical Naza.
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Hmm...Note that the current Civic launched about 4 years back & if this is the case, why until early this year (on March to be exact), Honda Malaysia still needs about 2 month to supply the car (Civic 2.0) to their customers? It was produced locally (CKD) some more as compared to Korea CBU Forte (sorry fortezens for bring up this matter again..i have to). I dont think that Honda dont want to ramp up their production here to cope for the demand right? Or did Honda mistakenly gauge the response from the public? Not after 4 years of launching i think. Further more, new gen vios also launched few years ago but still my father need to wait about 1 & a half month for it (April this year). So there must be some excuses for that to happen to any car manufacturers. I personally dont think that it is purely all salesman talk.
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post Sep 28 2010, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 28 2010, 03:19 PM)
Yes thats true but i cant provide Altis since i dont own one. Im not comparing with Forte in this post. Im merely responding to the claim that servicing at manufacturers SC is expensive which i dont think so considering the benefits.
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Good..since that u uses your Vios for 7 years & servicing at Toyota SC, u should have the figure for the table below right? (Since i cant find it anywhere in Toyota's website). Kindly give your Vios maintenance cost pricing (from 1k to 100k km) to me so that i can update the table for the benefit of all smile.gifAttached Image
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post Sep 28 2010, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 28 2010, 03:22 PM)
Im not sure about the Civic waiting period, but the difference here is that despite the waiting period for the Honda and Toyota as u claim, their sales are still in the thousands per month while the Forte is still at less than 500. So if the waiting period is a common issue for all manufacturers, then why is the Forte sales suffering?
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The answer for this question will turn us back again to my previous explanation..it is simply a long history of Toyota here that sets the most Malaysian mindset. For most Malaysian, they still skeptical about Korean cars especially when they look back to the previous model & it is a safe bet for them to buy a T, H or N cars regarding their reputation here. That's why Forte topped the sales chart in other countries but not in Malaysia. Many Malaysian give a praise to Forte but for the time being they will just look & see for the car to proves itself first. But for me, 2 years of round the world good review for Forte already speaks for it.


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post Sep 28 2010, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 28 2010, 04:02 PM)
U cannot use this table for comparison because your facts are based on manufacturers estimated pricing for maintenance based on pre-determined factors. Actual maintenance costs vary according to usage and actual wear and tear. Plus for older generation Toyota's the recommended service intervals even for synthetic oil was 5000km. It was only later in 2007 when it was changed to 10,000km for fully synthetic oil.

Ive always used fully synthetic oil except the 1st service to maintain the warranty. So even with the additional service intervals the total cost for 0-100,000 km service from 2003 - late 2008 for my car came up to about RM 5100. This is actual service & maintenance costs which will differ from projected manufaturer costs.

So if the service had been done every 10,000km from the start the costs would be much lower. Probably by about RM1000. Hope this helps. Cheers!
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Of course my facts are based on manufacturers estimated 5 year pricing for maintenance based on pre-determined factors since our Forte is still not a year old up to now to get the exact figure. I would like to see manufacturer (Toyota) estimated pricing based on pre-determined factors for Toyota cars in Malaysia to use as a guideline pricing, but UMW are not dare enough to publish it in the website. It makes me wondering if they hiding something coz the actual facts is unfavorable to them.
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post Sep 28 2010, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 28 2010, 04:58 PM)
Well im not sure why they dont publish. Personally, i dont think Toyota needs to publish such info since its a known fact that maintaining a Toyota is quite reasonable. Its evident from the information ive provided above. If it werent reasonable, u wouldnt be seeing all Toyota service centres full every day of the week. Some centres even need to book 2 weeks in advance and almost 60% servicing are for older vehicles.

It seems that the actual costs for maintenance are far lower than the Forte's published manufacturer's cost (which is normally lower than the actual). But then again its only my Vios. Not sure how much maintaining an Altis costs.
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Yup..Maybe u are right that i cant use your car as a reference coz it is not a current car with current maintenance pricing. The oil & parts price should be significantly lower to maintain your car that time (2003). So that's why i need an official & current estimated figures for me to produce this comparison especially for current Toyota model that still missing in my comparison table..for every 5k (if any) or 10k. Will be useful for all as a maintenance pricing guideline. But sadly, UMW choose to hide it. & that makes me wondering whether the current models are not as cheap to maintain as before...
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post Sep 28 2010, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 28 2010, 05:08 PM)
Then u better check and confirm this fact. Ure the so called President of the Forte Fan Club so u should know these basic facts about your own car so that ure in a better position to clarify doubts in future instead of getting excited and worked up for no reason like a small kid.

Cheers!
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President for the Kedah Perlis Kia Forte Owners Club only. Not the official MyForteClub which serves Forte owners nationwide. & since u always talking about your fair comments, i think u should answer bro kiaforteclub questions to justify your statement in your previous2 post today. Else it would not be a fair statement to Nazakia especially & to us (Forte owners) commonly..cheers
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post Sep 28 2010, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 28 2010, 05:32 PM)
Isnt that what your table is showing as well? u are showing a projected maintenance cost for the Forte based on current market conditions which will not be the same in 5 yrs time. So the issue about time vs cost evens itself out. That means my costing is valid.
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Correct..valid on your part..i agreed. But i cant use it in a figure since it is not official (dont get me wrong, it is not your fault anyway). i need an official figures for current models from UMW. Else it proves nothing & further more, i might get summon from UMW if publishing wrong figure..lol

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post Sep 28 2010, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Sep 28 2010, 05:38 PM)
can we discuss bout our beloved forte?
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Yalorr..i think we should do just that..me also went quite far away doh.gif


Added on September 28, 2010, 5:47 pmYo! bro Taipan, did u join TT last nite discussing the Penang trip? any outcome?
Me yet to decide whether to join u guys or not..haihh

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post Sep 30 2010, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(rhaizo @ Sep 29 2010, 05:28 PM)
after much research, reading forums like this, drooling over pictures, asking different forums same question, listening friends with negative and postive thoughts i finally signed the bank loan agreement paid downpayment yesterday.

Now waiting to pick up my Spicy Red SX next week. huhuu

Hopefully wont regret this purchase. Hoping to see u fortezens in the future! kudos!
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QUOTE(uglykidjoe @ Sep 30 2010, 04:19 AM)
Hiii..been waiting for today smile.gif
spicy red signing in!
:edit:
too exited. It should be "spicy red 2.0 sx signing in!"
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