QUOTE(juine @ Aug 5 2010, 09:55 AM)
yes i used to be in a very strong NA ls but we have around 5 JP member that time, the ls is so big that we needed 4 pearls to maintain, each pearl are represent for something. timezone are mostly base on whole day depends on that day. what is "once outside their guild they can't do anything?"
Nyzul wasn't really called raid, and Nyzul is really easy and it can be done on "pug" (pick up group), for events like Nyzul we usually just post up ls chat checking who is interest n if no one is interest will just check friendlist, only do "pug" as last alternative coz truthfully, we don't really want to screw up things although we don't really mind ww. there is no who gears best who in or ls leader choose who he want bullshit w.. we dont choose who n who, you up you get point, stuff drop, priority point persons lot. fair n square, simple as that.
People also can do shout for only camping Fatnir/Nidhogg why not Nyzul, n it actually went pretty well. I done this with a temporary so call HNMLS with almost 16+ jp members and 2 members from NA. I joined for fun and the LS was up till everyone get the stuff they lot for. I still remember the LS leader was a JP, and we only use the translation try to communicate. luckily it went well ^^ i even went to some of their dynamis run as guest.. got few good stuff from it.
seriously, base on what you guys reply, you all just scare with favouritism, am i right? actually i really dunno how to explain this w, my relationship with the ls member also start from 0. i also dunno who n who are them, most of them are also real life friend. i'm like the only asian people in the whole ls w. tho they're asian but they live in na. we also work very hard on exping, camping pop item, help out this n that. too many to tell. tho most of us quit, we still chat around saying hi.
i seen alot of up and fall on every major end-game ls, not just NA.. it happen on JP ls as well. it's really depends on how you see things. just relax ^^ w that's why i said a good leadership is very extremely important in one ls. you got a good leader then you're set.
me n my gf just really just want to play with more m'sian, coz after all will have more people to play at night time coz she work n i don't. if u guys are setting up a new ls, hopefully we can be in a same world so we can apply to join in. ^^ why i am recruiting people mainly becoz well my ls had pretty good foundation to start with + we can play together with other region people. never afraid of not enough people to team up. i don't really like "pug" except no choice.
i always believe a weak players can be improve coz if someone can do it why not others? our ls rarely gives up on weak players, it all depends on whether you can accept people advise. always good to discuss strategy beforehand n this is for very small events such as exping or on a quest. events such as dynamis, or killing hnm, you are require to follow what officer ask you to do, coz your officer are the main guy who will responsible for everythin n report to ls leader for that events. i dunno how to explain here. we can accept mistake but if you keep repeating the same mistake again n again n put the whole alliance in jeopardy, then good luck www ^^ i do take a person attitude highly coz to prevent drama happening tho i know this is very hard to escape. we never had a drama on item dropping due coz everyone need to accept the point system.
so excited ^^ coz ffxiv is so close to release date, feel like xtc n nightmare for me ^^
Most people just not happy with favouritism instead of scare, or we can call it "unfair" sometime. Only few people can take it positive, it is like u are as hard working/good as B, but boss give B more salary because B is a relative or boss like him more, i think most people will feel unhappy with it, only few will say i am happy as long as boss pay me the salary that he promised me. We learn to accept favouritism, then ignore it or leave it(if got choice) because it is a human being.
From above reply i saw these events/activities like camped NM, pt-ed, missions, battlefields, raid etc were mostly did with LS/guild members or friendlist, that's what i mean "once outside their guild they can't do anything". Let say today NA want to do mission or battlefield, he have to check LS website to see if today got such event, if not then ask LS members who is currently online, still not enough members then seek friendlist help. People may got other plan like want to gain exp or other excuse unable to help, for a big LS with 30-50 members online all the time, it is still possible to get enough people to make a team, in case of a small ls with 6-10 members then... ahem.... My question is, there are hundreds of players in town who want to do same battlefield or mission, why NA not just shout like JP who able to make a team within 3 minutes rather than spend 1 hour to ask and wait LS members or give up finally. After joined a few NA shout team i might have some conclusions.
Anyway, i am still confusing that where do u live and which region prime time u play? It doesn't matter that JP LS got NA member like i said earlier, they are very friendly once they know u/become friend though a few members still dislike attendance of non-japanese-speaking people. However, if u send a tell to strange JP wish to join their team, let say the most basic and simple exp team, not matter how friendly u are, he will probably reply with translator like [i'm sorry] [english, no thanks].
There's no problem at all for english-speaking asian who plan to play at NA prime time, for those who cant speak japanese but have to play at JP prime time, how are u u going to survive in the environment of 90% players are japanese and most of them have bad impression with english-speaking players? Can the rest 10% players enough to build a strong guild/friendlist which they have to count on for everything? When there is conflict of personality within the only one LS where can we go else? Of course this is just a game, may be we should just take it easy and see how things go later or try do something.
FFonline is one of the rare global server MMORPG with some critical issue that doesn't exist in region server MMORPG, i think we need to clarify difference of environment/culture between JP and NA prime time.
Jul 17 2010, 05:44 AM
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