DotA Dota Allstars 6.41 V2, General Discussion
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 May 13 2005, 03:51 PM
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hey hey hey... i join the BS2 for few days liao...
why never see u guys there??? and noticed that majority of the BS2 players stick on 5.84c... walao... so afraid to lose mer??? or wanna play unbalanced... sien ler... |
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May 13 2005, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(sanjikun @ May 13 2005, 05:05 PM) i was there at 2 somethign am this morning..... say noob not noob, say pro not pro...all i can say is that it's n00b-infested...... sometimes it really bores me ...  but they just like to play 5.84c... if 6.08 they act like noob a bit (i think)... that's why stick with 5.84c??? me only can play between 7pm - 11pm... nickname? sure as in LYN one la... lolz... and i always create 6.08 ar (no ap) as my title... and what u will get is really hard to get 3 v 3... don want say 5 v 5... need 3 v 3 oso hard... sien... and BS2 have many leaver ler... i donno why... mayb 6.08??? lolz... |
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May 16 2005, 08:39 AM
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me not a noob but not a pro...
as long as teammate give teamwork then got hope to win liao... sometime teammate really give teamwork... but sometime no... especially those get a nice hero and keep feeding opponent... play like this will sien ler... i really donno what to say... |
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May 16 2005, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(Dark Lynx @ May 16 2005, 12:28 PM) tats y the dynamic of the game is influenced by all player, sometimes how good u r oso, if team wif weak players..same case kena tarpau one lol i do agree with u...cannot blame coz sometimes player juz left the game when they found out they team wif poor players, its juz not so happening some players just left the game coz they have noob teammate... but some players just wanna be leaver when play ar game... i.e, at the game start they get bad hero and repick still get another bad hero... i.e, their opponent team get all the nice hero, and they didnt... i hate this ppl... since the game is ar... is fair enough... just bcoz ur luck not so good only... but they still wanna left the game... wtf...  |
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May 17 2005, 09:43 AM
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yeah... i like 6.08...
and between... do u guys using AXE??? the orc hero ler... i discover he really nice... is damn nice... the HUNGER kill hero like hell in the early of the games.... but mid or late game will hard liao... but he still GENG... his 1st skill can add armor, 2nd skill is burn life, 3rd skill is counter attack, ultimate is instant kill... nice nice nice... |
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May 17 2005, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(sanjikun @ May 17 2005, 10:38 AM) axe's cool - berserker's call(1st skill) works like taunt in stone giant(the normal FT for Night Elves) - anyone within range will all attack him, including HEROES! WOOT! ya... but his hp oso will be low ler...and that extra +20 armor withibn 3 seconds really do alot of difference. both that and counter helix(3rd spell), finish off with culling blade(ult).... woot! if have a heart then perfect... can recover a lots of hp in that times... if i play ap i will choose his hero now... train him... lolz... |
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May 21 2005, 01:49 PM
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yesterday niye just play with AhWang...
he using Razor... quite good... but our team still lose... lolz... now i try to train spiritbreaker... |
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Jun 7 2005, 03:01 PM
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I would like to ask what proper items should i buy for Razor (Lightning Relevent)???
And what Skill should i add for each level??? Please state them in order. Thanks... |
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Jun 7 2005, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(huh @ Jun 7 2005, 03:06 PM) hmm Thanks for advised. What i play Razor is Fervor, Chain Lightning, Storm Seeker and Stat. And items build were Power Tread (if opponent in the lane is strong), Radian, Lothar's Edge, Stygian Desolator / Perseverence, Soul Booster and etc...normally when i play razor i only use fervor and stats and ultimate whenever available item build would be treads > radiance > deso thats in 584c never played razor in 609 but i think i'd go treads > sange and yasha > deso Why Lothar's Edge? Coz wanna run aways, i don't like to wait for revives. Revives will make the situation change. Better run for regenerate. *PS: Any one got more good strategy for Razor? EDITED: Never buy BKB for Razor before. ANd SnY does not stack with Power Tread right? I really don't know why SnY doesn't stack with Power Tread. This post has been edited by HenryLow: Jun 7 2005, 03:27 PM |
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Jun 7 2005, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(huh @ Jun 7 2005, 04:11 PM) lothar's is not a bad idea too Razor's Chain Lightning quite good. Especially those aggressive opponent keep come near to me. With Chain Lightning (LV 4) + Radian, you can SAPU all the creeps in a wave within 2 - 3 seconds. All golds are yours. Syok man. But really depend on how the player play Razor.i don't play chain lightning cos his mana pool is too low and i don't want to waste money on mana items for him razor has a speed boost with fervor so you should be able to catch anything apart from balanar, syllabear, and boots of travel as far as i know, in 6.09 (not 6.09b), sange and yasha does stack with treads (attack speed AND movement speed) bkb is really a situation-dependant item so you can't list that as a must-have item And i wonder how if Zeus with Radian + his Arc Lightning. Can laces through 15 nearby enermy units with LV 4 and cause 130 damage each. Razor's Chain Lightning only caused 290 damage for the 1st units but others will be lesser. But compare to Medusa, the LV 4 Chain Lightning caused more damage than Razor. 1st unit will take 300 damage. I still don't understand the SnY's MAIM effect. Someone mind to explain? And with doesn't stack with Power Tread? Thanks. *Today learn so many things for my favorite hero. Thanks everyone. |
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Jun 7 2005, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(Ah WanG @ Jun 7 2005, 06:09 PM) henry : i intro u 1 nice guide for razor I agreed with his strategy because he used to fight with opponent's heroes. My style is Defend + Pumping. But need good teammates. If play with noob teammates, his strategy also can't work if vs good opponents. I will try this strategy 1st. Mayb i can create my own strategy which more perfect. Thanks for your info.http://www.dota-allstars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4819 ya.. at the first maybe u will said : " wtf! wat kind of skills build is tat without chain lighting!" his skills build is like this 1. Unholy Fervor 2. Stats 3. Unholy Fervor 4. Stats 5. Unholy Fervor 6. Stormseeker 7. Unholy Fervor 8. Stats 9. Stats 10. Frenzy 11. Storm Seeker 12. Stats 13. Frenzy 14. Frenzy 15. Frenzy 16. Storm Seeker 17. Stats 18. Stats 19. Stats 20. Stats 21. Stats 22. Chain Lightning 23. Chain Lightning 24. Chain Lightning 25. Chain Lightning and his reason of doin tat his item build is get a thread then hand of minas.. then i try out wif maelstorm... later 2 hyperstone.. erm.. the game end liao.. no time for me to get burize oso liao  after i tried i just can say.. erm.. at the first really can't do anything.. cos dun have lighting to nuke ppl off... but once in mid game... the attack speed is really fast.. once get maelstrom.. farming is not a problem at all combine wif ur storm seeker... but.. vs hero 1 v 1 maybe still can.. 1 v 2 3 4.. oso have to die kena tapao..  |
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Jun 8 2005, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(Ah WanG @ Jun 7 2005, 11:35 PM) i noticed 1 thing IceFrog is the Official Map Creator. And Guinsoo is the modifier of the 5.84b to 5.84c and 5.84d...how come in v 609b loading screen.. is not Guinsoo Presents anymore instead of IceFrog Present? or in 609 tat time is already IceFrog?? |
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Jun 8 2005, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(Ah WanG @ Jun 7 2005, 06:09 PM) henry : i intro u 1 nice guide for razor Daikor, i already watched the Replay from the website. I noticed that his strategy is PUSH tower, and not a hero killer and also not a pumper or farmer. He farm too slow if compare with his level. His leveling is damn fast. But mid game he become slower. I never use Frenzy unless i at level 22.http://www.dota-allstars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4819 ya.. at the first maybe u will said : " wtf! wat kind of skills build is tat without chain lighting!" his skills build is like this 1. Unholy Fervor 2. Stats 3. Unholy Fervor 4. Stats 5. Unholy Fervor 6. Stormseeker 7. Unholy Fervor 8. Stats 9. Stats 10. Frenzy 11. Storm Seeker 12. Stats 13. Frenzy 14. Frenzy 15. Frenzy 16. Storm Seeker 17. Stats 18. Stats 19. Stats 20. Stats 21. Stats 22. Chain Lightning 23. Chain Lightning 24. Chain Lightning 25. Chain Lightning and his reason of doin tat his item build is get a thread then hand of minas.. then i try out wif maelstorm... later 2 hyperstone.. erm.. the game end liao.. no time for me to get burize oso liao after i tried i just can say.. erm.. at the first really can't do anything.. cos dun have lighting to nuke ppl off... but once in mid game... the attack speed is really fast.. once get maelstrom.. farming is not a problem at all combine wif ur storm seeker... but.. vs hero 1 v 1 maybe still can.. 1 v 2 3 4.. oso have to die kena tapao.. How i add the skill? 1st priority = Fervor. 2nd priority = Chain Lightning. 3rd priority = Stat. Level 6, 11 and 16 sure add Storm Seeker. Level 22 - 25 add Frenzy. But i really like the way he buy the items in the early game. 3 x Circlet of Nobility in 5 v 5 game. This is really nice. Cause i only bought Boot of Speed. This Circlet of Nobility can add more mana and more hp to me. Hehehe. Nice. And Razor with Fervor already fast running. No need Boot of Speed for the early game. Will try later. Yeah. |
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Jun 8 2005, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(state of abyssmal @ Jun 8 2005, 12:26 PM) henry enufff dota..plz play other game.. tq  why enough wor...and between, what map u can recommend to me? ish ish ish...  |
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Jun 8 2005, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(huh @ Jun 8 2005, 03:49 PM) yup i agree that SnY's maim effect is useless Agree. Another is Don't Feed Opponent Hero.thats why i still get mom with SnY but the movement speed helps a lot 10% is a lot and its easy to get too...all the cheap stuff when i play sniper, i only play head shot and stats scattershot is more for farming but headshot works better i think yup...and next on the list is farming if you can farm properly, you'll own |
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Jun 17 2005, 12:21 PM
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The Official DotA-Allstars 6.09b is the ROXXEST! Like yesterday night, I have noticed that almost 90% of the DotA-Allstars games created are 5.84c. So sad. I have to wait about 10 minutes to get a 6.09b game.
I really don't know what the 5.84cer think of. Sigh. |
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Jun 20 2005, 04:44 PM
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when 50H41 lose in 6.09b game, they will say:" i play 5.84c one, 6.09b so many different. i don like it at all... bla bla bla..."
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Jun 21 2005, 12:42 AM
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Ah WanG:
don cincai say la... me oso noob... techie is easy to use ma... just put mines everywhere... and suicide... and get monster kill onli... but that game i only get 8 kills 8 deaths... and the last death is suicide to the frozen throne to fiish the game... |
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Jun 21 2005, 01:08 PM
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karising:
My nick? I still using my HenryLow all the way... I'm not truely owning iwthout a good teamwor ler... VS stun i go suicide only... and i put statis trap for escaping and gbing purpose... now i always at BS2 (pretend it to be Battlenet Server 2 lolz). Just add my nick HenryLow if u wanna let me join your game. |
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Jun 22 2005, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(state of abyssmal @ Jun 22 2005, 02:09 PM) henry is keng... Sven? Never use before la. I total noob when i use Melee hero. Coz i can't estimate the range by myself. LOLz...where got he noob ... try give him sven..u die  |
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