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Cyclone87
post Jun 19 2005, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(YuuYuu @ Jun 19 2005, 04:46 AM)
hmm, i met these interesting people today
was 3v5 due to leavers against morphling, centaur and sven
we were generally not losing nor winning, until morphling and centaur go double blink stun
then suddenly morphling had skadi at lvl 11, we were all quite shocked lor
so we ask was there pumping and they went "OMFG NUUUB don't make me laugh" and all that shit
when i check replay, they memang pump =.=''
why this world got ppl so strange, pump also dowan admit wan =S
does this mean they also agree that pumping is lame, but still want to pump and afraid to admit?
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Lv11 skadi is quite fast. Mayb he is a Good Farmer kua. I think it posible.
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post Jul 10 2005, 03:47 AM

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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Jul 9 2005, 11:39 PM)
anyone hav guide in using 6.10 new hero invoker????
combine new spells
hard 2 use but damage quite high
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With BKB , Invoker= Piece of shit.
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post Jul 10 2005, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Jul 9 2005, 11:39 PM)
anyone hav guide in using 6.10 new hero invoker????
combine new spells
hard 2 use but damage quite high
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When use invoker always max ur Wex n Quas 1st. When u wan to go hunt hero always ready ur Invoked Spell + ur ulti. So mean u can cast twice. U can try pul ur opponent to the tower by using Dark Portal (Quas Quas Wex) n it deal 320 dmg. When he try run again. Ulti then invoke again.

For hero hunting, find those with around 1 k Hp. With ur Wex lv 8, u hav around 440movement speed which is faster den boots of travel. U can straight use the teleport skill ( Wex Wex Quas) deal 560dmg n tele u beside him. Den Ulti n cast again. Only 200 mana per cast. 400sp n u get a kill.

For farming, tornado (Quas Wex Wex ) <- If i not mistaken, 2000 range with 475 dmg. Twice it n u can get creep in 2 row. It travel 2000 range. Or the Flame rolling ball oso not bad. For lots of creep, AoE Lightning, (Wex Wex Wex ) deal 320 dmg too 400 aoe oso not bad. But always make sure ur ulti ready so can cast twice. 320x2 =640 , creep all urs.

For pushing tower, Immolation <-- (Not sure name) is quite good coz it will deal all near by atk by 50dmg . So if creep oso hentam u , few sec u can earn $$$. Coz each atk deal 50dmg to surrounding.

To make ur oppenent LAG, Lv8 infeno + ice wallshould get the job done. ^^

To fly is (Quas Wex Fire). Invunerable awhile.

EMP shockwave, drain all SP. (Wex Quas Wex)

Betrayal (Quas Wex Quas) . All ur enemy will atk the unit under the spell.

Another hero killing spell, Firebolt ( fire Fire fire) , deal 565 dmg n stun few sec. So ready ur ulti , Stun den hit twice , stun again den hit, shift to Wex Wex Wex to chase him den when ur ulti ready, click once on quas so it will changing to teleport atk , 560 dmg n tele u beside him. Ur hand need to be fast. cool.gif

That all the spell i ussually use when using Invoker. Being using since yesterday till now. Havent sleep yet. >_< Now zzZz time.

Ooo ya, invoker should not get Soul Booster or guinsoo. For late game safety , Skadi will be my 1st choise. Invoker dun hav to worry bout SP becoz he hav the highest INT in game. Get a boots 1st, den 2 null, den point booster , den orb orb skadi. Always remember to make full use of his ulti to cast twice. Ur oppoent will WTF. ^^

If ur opponent ON BKB, de 1st thing to do is Triple Wex n RUN. No1 can chase u unless they hav haste .

Finally Time to sleep. ZzzZZzzZ

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post Jul 10 2005, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Hell Fire @ Jul 10 2005, 05:44 PM)
I guess Invoker will be the best pusher, coz of the chaos inferno, makes enemy lags, and earn damm many money $_$
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It will be the best hero killer during early stage. When he lv 7, can already do 320 dmg with Telelightning. Keep ur ulti, invoke den unti invoke. Ussually I ready my telelightnin, tele to them, 320 dmg hit once, den hotkey R + V again. Free $$ den back to regen n go hunt another hero.
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post Jul 10 2005, 06:25 PM

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But overall this hero not very good at ending. Rating 3/5 star or mayb 2. With his present, 3 out of 5 enemy hero will goin for bkb. He is pretty useless againt BKB hero.
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post Jul 24 2005, 03:16 PM

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Dude,sa ulti is physical, including jugg n dp. naix ulti block magic only. But for doom, it a weird case but it been there for a long time.
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post Jul 31 2005, 02:28 PM

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I juz hav clan war with my CC. They all wan to play pump and we lose in 15minute.

Their hero is Bone,timestopper,DP,Necrolyte, and demon witch .
I was sa with troll,zeus, vengeful, and CM.

Lv 7 nia, all kena pwn by bone with deso. Game end when he lv11 with bkb deso and burize and we around lv 7-9. his teammate all dun even hav a boots. They hav 2 good farmer and Timestopper + bone teamwork really good. Timestop n bone kill. A good reason for their good teamwork is they are bro and the bone n TS is twins.
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post Jul 31 2005, 05:44 PM

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6.12b Sk is alot better den 5.84c 1. He is superb farming machine with battlefury . Battlefury + his poison atk = 5creep dead.
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post Aug 21 2005, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Ah WanG @ Aug 20 2005, 07:34 AM)
come to the best one.. try melee troll... no one can beats his attack speed combine 2gether wif blind! like pringles.. once u pop, u can't stop!

once kena stun.. u will die in his hand in less than 5 secs
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Try panda with 3 basher,butterfly and mom. One troll under drunken haze , he will pop up miss miss miss miss. 75% miss from drunken haze,passive 24% from panda evasion and 25% from butterfly . biggrin.gif In 10 hit,only once will hit. LoL..

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post Aug 21 2005, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Aug 21 2005, 10:48 AM)
Ni kong sai....  sweat.gif

Well.... if you want to compare, compare both of them with the same items. We all know items play a vital parts in Dota. Imagine the same situation again with troll has the same items, you will see the results clearly. And dont forget, troll can blind you as well.

Extra notes, getting 3 bashers is just plain noobish playstyle since you get lesser and lesser percentage when bashers are stacked together. Theoritically, 3 x 15% = 45% but pratically you get only 39% of chances. Not much different between 3 and 4 out of 10 hits will stun the target with uber attack speed. I rather spent the 3rd basher into something else like a booster or anything that help more.
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That for late game ma. Panda ulti can save him when he in danger. Troll blind only 42% and drunken haze 75% miss n 16% slow movement speed. And he hav passive x2 crit and 24% evasion. Troll will blink.gif
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post Aug 26 2005, 10:37 AM

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Juz play few game last nitez. I own with bear. Instead of pump myself, i pump my bear with 2 basher thread hyperstone. 16% entangle 3 sec n 30% bash..haha. game end in around 30minute only .

One funny thing is, yesterday , the shaman meet me sumwhere near the river. he shackle me, den i tele my bear n tapau him in few sec. he cant disable 2 unit fast. biggrin.gif

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post Aug 26 2005, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Aug 26 2005, 10:40 AM)
Woot~ Got save the replay ??  drool.gif I always want to watch bear play. The guide that I read about bear also recommend to pump the bear instead of syllabear himself. But I wonder if the bear died, will the item dropped ??
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post Aug 31 2005, 01:28 PM

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How to upload replay? I trying to upload my replay with my frends but fail.

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post Sep 3 2005, 01:27 PM

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Infact most hero also have around 90-120 dmg when they lv99. Naix only 69 base dmg. >_< btw if for naga, i will get diffusal blade, den get a plate armor and battlefury. Net den purge.

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post Sep 3 2005, 01:54 PM

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Talking bout image, soulkeeper with 3 image + deso when meta is really scary.
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post Sep 4 2005, 04:12 PM

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Until now i never met a pro bloodseeker. This morning i play 6.14 and my teamate with naix playing well, but he complain that bloodseeker can pwn him easily. I was with drow, he come to me few time when i have less den 300hp and ulti. But he dun dare near me .>_< We both same lv, i was with a thread and mkb, he with mom bracker n thread.
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post Sep 10 2005, 12:29 AM

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Naix is good againt nuker and 1v1 hero. If naix vs sum good hero like, naga or nessaj which at the same lv as naix, naix might lose coz of the image.
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post Sep 18 2005, 02:53 PM

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Nope, tidehunter. 500 and 1 sec stun. LoL it ulti.

 

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