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Ban Guan
post Aug 25 2005, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Aug 25 2005, 09:15 AM)
no... is 5 v 4 then bcome 4 v 4...
anyway we lose like hell...
no teamwork for the beginning and the mid game...
but great teamwork in defending...
i hate DOOM...
don ask me to use him anymore...
he sux... no... me sux in using it... sweat.gif
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try your to use doom and dun say he sux.
ver 6 doom become much more stronger and handsome than 584's doom.
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post Aug 25 2005, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Ah WanG @ Aug 25 2005, 04:49 PM)
wah i still in oppice u ppl can play dota liao
somore win..s o syok la...

tiny nice hero.. super high base damage la
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tiny mana boleh "pakai" ...........
"tiny nice hero.. super low attack speed la"
after get a hyperstone still attack slow................
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post Aug 30 2005, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Ah WanG @ Aug 30 2005, 01:31 PM)
saw this a dota allstars

anyone pls tell me how 2 defeat this monster?

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this screenshot is use cheatcode lar.......(greedisgood 100000)
dun worry about that lar...
Nobody will do this in the LAN game or Bnet.
If some 1 can done this, the only idea for me to kill SK is atleast 3hero attack SK at the same time.
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post Sep 23 2005, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Sep 23 2005, 02:53 PM)
i want to know, if playing 1 vs 1
wat items wil u all go for 1st ??
boot of speed or power thread ?
planning to use bone here in 5.84  sweat.gif
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Glove of Haste then Power tread
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post Oct 10 2005, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(YuuYuu @ Oct 7 2005, 05:11 PM)
i read b4 on a stacking table that's medusa's arrow is an exception that cleave works on it. sounds too damn imba to be true though, so i ignored it as a typo >_<
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sure or nor, range hero can stack with Cleaving Attack ?
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post Oct 12 2005, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Oct 12 2005, 03:49 PM)
u mean drow ?

her ulti enable u to hav chance of certain percentage to 1 hit kil a creep.

usually if i play her, i up frost arrow n stat 1st. 1 level of silence can be useful also, depend on ur opponent.
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i think the most useless ulti is bone.......
i would not learn bone's ulti b4 Lv 19
i learn like this way=>
1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,stats until Lv9 then baru ulti

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post Oct 12 2005, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(feizaiII @ Oct 12 2005, 04:58 PM)
how about drow?
1,3,2,1,3,1,3,1,4...?

drow ulti only for killing creep?
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drow, sure i will learn the ukti while Lv6 Lv11 Lv 16
bcoz i need fast farming meh...............
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post Oct 13 2005, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Oct 13 2005, 01:07 AM)
how to encounter people that buy 3 plate mails ??
my fren like to do so
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easy lar use int hero with dagon n eul scepter or tat item can moph hero into "pig"
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post Oct 13 2005, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Oct 13 2005, 10:04 AM)
Haha.. last night use Lucy in pub game. Didnt use lucy for quite some time, to my suprise, managed to make a 19 - 1 result hahahahaha........... I could manage to get clean sheet (no die) but too greedy at the end of the game where everyone gank me >_< after my mates left the enemy base and I thought I'm invunerable ahahahaha.

Managed to get battefury, pt, heart, radiance. Forgotten to buy refresher orb, I'm a noob, isnt I ??
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u play ver 5 or ver 6 ?
if ver 6 , i dun think so u need a refresher ord.......u better get a satanic lar.
if ver 5 , then u need a refresher ord and mom.
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post Nov 17 2005, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(maianeh @ Nov 17 2005, 12:08 AM)
I'm lazy to create an account to post at dota-allstars.com, so I'll try to ask this here and hope someone has the answer...

Whatever attack speed you get (agi or items), you _add_ it to the IAS factor for your hero (eg. treads give 30% IAS => you get an IAS factor of 1.3).

Question - using example (easier to explain):

Now I know N'aix gains about 4 agi per level, so that adds 4% IAS to his attack speed every level (which is why he is very fast at higher levels). MY question is, N'aix starts with 21 agi (IIRC) at level 1, does that get included in the starting IAS factor (meaning he starts with an IAS factor of 1.21, then +0.04 every level)?
(Additional info you don't have to know to answer my question)
By IAS factor, I mean the number you divide by 1.7 (Base seconds per attack for N'aix) to get the "Attacks per Second" rate (1/1.7 = 0.58). That is, with 30% IAS, the attack speed would be 1.3/1.7 = 0.76 attacks per second.

Does anyone understand what I am trying to say? Haha sorry if it's a bit too technical.
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sorry, i still dun know how to calc the attack speed for the hero. biggrin.gif
can u give me another 2 example ?
-Bone(calc the skill too for Lv1 and Lv2)
-Centuar Warchief

is it all hero want to calc the "Attacks per Sec" rate also divide by 1.7 ?

wat is IAS and IIRC.
can u give me more detail ?

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post Nov 17 2005, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(maianeh @ Nov 17 2005, 04:07 PM)
Actually it does make sense that most heroes start with the same attack speed. The differences may only be due to the fact that the BAT of AM is 1.4 and that of TB is 1.5 instead of 1.7 like most other heroes.

For more information about BAT, look at the dota-allstars forum in the list and guides section...
If assuming the starting agility does not contribute to IAS,

Bone:
+3 agi per level
If he just levels and does not buy any agi/IAS items or put points into stats, his attack speed at each level will be:

Lvl 1: 1/1.7 attacks per second
Lvl 2: 1.03/1.7 attacks per second
Lvl 3: 1.06/1.7 attacks per second

Centaur:
+2 agi per level
If he just levels and does not buy any agi/IAS items or put points into stats, his attack speed at each level will be:

Lvl 1: 1/1.7 attacks per second
Lvl 2: 1.02/1.7 attacks per second
Lvl 3: 1.04/1.7 attacks per second

AM:
+2.8 agi per level

Lvl 1: 1/1.4 attacks per second
Lvl 2: 1.028/1.4 attacks per second
Lvl 3: 1.056/1.4 attacks per second
Buy gloves of haste (+15% IAS)
Lvl 3: 1.206/1.4 attacks per second
Lvl 4: 1.234/1.4 attacks per second
Put point into +2 stats (+2 agi)
Lvl 4: 1.254/1.4 attacks per second
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thx alot for your help thumbup.gif , but i still got some question here. biggrin.gif
why bone and centaur divide by 1.7 but AM only divide by 1.4 ?
how i know wat hero should divide by 1.7 or divide by 1.4? sad.gif

if bone Lv7 and already max the Strafe + up 3 stats
Lv1 = 1 / 1.7 strafe + 20% while casted 1.20 / 1.7
Lv2 = 1.05 / 1.7
Lv3 = 1.08 / 1.7 strafe + 40% while casted 1.48 / 1.7
Lv4 = 1.13 / 1.7
Lv5 = 1.16 / 1.7 strafe + 60% while casted 1.76 / 1.7
Lv6 = 1.21 / 1.7
Lv7 = 1.24 / 1.7 strafe + 80% while casted 2.04 / 1.7

is it calc in this way ? whistling.gif

pls correct me if me X sad.gif
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post Sep 5 2006, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(AiRBooM @ Sep 1 2006, 10:47 PM)
haha... Malaysia is  the only country still playing 5.84c in the world ... with this kind of mentality(refuse to try out new thing and move on) ... i doubt Malaysia can achieve Wawasan 2020..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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dun say cant achieve wawasan 2020.
i giv extra 20 years for wawasan 2040, it aso cannnot achieve..........
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post Sep 5 2006, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(darrencw @ Aug 29 2006, 02:36 PM)
i missed those days where we can play -wtf mode and its so damn fun!
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i never play WTF mode b4, but i saw my bro play.......
then i tell him "u can press Alt+QQ, no point cont"

who is the most "Qi Ma Kan" hero in WTF mode?
which team get tat hero then tat team can 1 vs 5 liao.

why u so like play tat WTF mode?
1st time i saw , it really funny.
but long time, it just for c2pig player play only.
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post Sep 9 2006, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(yukikaze @ Sep 6 2006, 08:03 PM)
WTF mode is best played for fun,not bout pwnage or what it's bout LOL-age laugh.gif
why u say stupid leh?if every game oso serious game then i think it's dull.
sumtimes must be silly abit then your life wouldn't be that dull ya know
after all it's just a game
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QUOTE(yukikaze @ Sep 6 2006, 08:03 PM)
its still a game mode to play around when u nbtd . and what's wrong with u saying ppl who play -wtf mode is stupid ?

everyone have their own preferences . just because u doesn't like that mode does not means that everyone SHOULD NOT play it nor say those players are stupid
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think about it, if every game i use zeus play wit u..............
im sure u and ur teammate will be the LEAVER!
tat mean every game sure 100% got leaver, and no ending.
if every game like this, why i waste my time to join WTF mode and play wit Leaver.
ok, if u say WTF mode wit no global hero......
i use omni9, try and think about it.........wat hero can kill me

 

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