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Ah WanG
post Aug 2 2005, 08:18 AM

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aiks alamaklor... did u play creep block wif the statis ward?

yesterday played ursa warriro... very nice... activate overpower.. activated lothar edge... go bhind enemy activate ulti n whack whack whack whack whack.. owning.... laugh.gif

another round using zues.. wanna ask here, how 2 use his third skill static field ( something like tat... forgot name) ?

tat round got ppl dc at early stage.. bcome 4 v5 n we was under pressure by KOTL, viper, nessaj, tiny and terroblade. i give up already sommore zues is not nice at late game. however my teamate buther, vs and antimage and zues(me) just keep on def n die .. until we get our item.. we push 2gether n manage to break the mid rax.

after tat we push top n then bottom n finally win biggrin.gif
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post Aug 3 2005, 08:27 AM

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yesterday played at 1:45 hour long game wif henry n myfrens

argh.. lose very very cham.. we got 1 leaver at the early stage... but then henry still own them..

later enemy got 2 leavers.. so bcome 4 v 3.. we 4 they 3... but their bone n juggie very pro...

n at last we lost... sigh.. so sad.. feel like wasting my time bcos of my teamate cm kinda noob.. sigh
feel so angry n wasting my time
Ah WanG
post Aug 3 2005, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(KidsCode @ Aug 3 2005, 08:33 AM)
sometimes to me, its also not other players noob, its base on how click on the teamate how to play the game...

give you an example, im using rasta (shaman), im the only 1 got hex (freeze hero) and the other ppl keep saying noob when i dont hex, but when i hex, they are running away, when i dont hex, they saz im noob... whats the point i hex the hero, but no 1 around to finish it up... me also quite piss, as im the only keep downing the towers... and keep been call a noob and a lousy player...  yawn.gif
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ya ya ya ! nod.gif i very very agree wif u... i use tide hunter b4... teamate said.. gather at mid... u spam ur gush.. i said ok.. then i went there n gush.. they didn't come.. i run out of hp.. i heading back.. then only they come n said.. y u leave? u noob? y u dun use ur ulti n gush them? i was like.. argh... i already did but tat time u not there..
Ah WanG
post Aug 3 2005, 10:22 AM

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ya lo henry.. their rax already down at mid liao... but then i dunno wat the cm doin la.. he sitting quite far for me at the cc.. i shout him alot times but hard 2 get to him... maybe is like kidscode said.. tat game we r not so clicked.. but tat cm normal time he quite good at other hero.. maybe he not so used to cm i guess
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post Aug 3 2005, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(guest18 @ Aug 3 2005, 12:34 PM)
hey which character you all think is prettiest and sexiest ?

cant help but to drool at phantom assasin for me

she is quite good with battle fury and monkey king bar
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sexiest? i guess is lina laugh.gif
click me baby.. 1 more time..

QUOTE(HenryLow @ Aug 3 2005, 12:45 PM)
hmm... i think he really don't know how to use CM... CM really strong in the early game but he do nothing ler... he can frost ppl but he don't... donno how to say liao... waste a good hero... the bone really strong in late game... 1xx + 3xx damage... ur bear bear really can't perform well bcoz no teamwork... if u and me tag team from early game, i think we win liao... we push really fast rite... hehehe... 2 hero killers in early and mid game will GG... nevermind, we play again...
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yeah i wanted but techie wanna go there ma... so bo pian...
sommore he dc so early
our enemy got leaver but at mid game... they took the leaver item n become strong
ours? no item for us to take..
2nite i gonna try ursa again without lothar.. wanna try blink dagger liao

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post Aug 3 2005, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(me0wSter @ Aug 3 2005, 04:18 PM)
Definately lina. But have you seen Lina with BKB? Hahaha!! Freaking huge!
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huge ? which body part u mean? brows.gif

yesterday i saw my fren' game.. sylla bear on bear form n cast rabbit bcome dam huge.. then treant put armor to him.. wah.. see oso scare.. huge huge bear wif huge huge green tree root ! laugh.gif i wonder if syllaberar cast rabbit then bkb then trean'ts root
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post Aug 4 2005, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(tienhou18 @ Aug 3 2005, 09:28 PM)
lol it's rabid not rabbit
btw syllabear's spirit bear is....gay if you pump it
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whaha paise paise... blush.gif

QUOTE(szeping @ Aug 3 2005, 11:33 PM)
When you cast BKB on bear, no other magic would enlarge the bear anymore.
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another paise.. i am really too noob liao... always mess things up
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post Aug 5 2005, 08:43 AM

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alamaklor how come ur tiny do not learn the first skill? first skill is nice for me cos aoe stun.. normally i maxed out first n 3rd skill thenafter get hyperstone only learn the ulti... will maxed out the toss b4 level 16 too
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post Aug 5 2005, 01:51 PM

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check this out! very nice triangle!

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Off topic : hmm.. just saw ur case alamaklor.. good luck for u career then... but i do hope u can get back in area 51 again in the future !
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post Aug 5 2005, 02:08 PM

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he wanan get 6 hyperstone oso can cos.. it is a single player mode game wif -whosyourdaddy code laugh.gif
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post Aug 6 2005, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Aug 5 2005, 11:41 PM)
i want to ask, are there any rules that which hero must use which item ??
and i want to ask wat item is the best to buy at 1st for about 600G ?
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for me.. my first item will be animal courier no matter wat hero
this is bcos the chicken can help me carry item to me whenever i got the money to buy the item n i no need to go back..

if i need to heal or mana regen.. i can buy s.water n mana potion n ask the chicken to bring to me.. while i leeching exp from creep... i cut the time to go back fountain.

n i can avoid some of the cases tat just i got the enough money to buy item, i get killed n lose money..

QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Aug 6 2005, 02:29 AM)
wat items u recommend me to buy then for the 1st 10 lvl
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this depend on wat is ur hero
str ppl better get a ring of regen
int n agi diff case
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post Aug 7 2005, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(Arkantos @ Aug 6 2005, 06:18 PM)
Anyone know how to counter manta? It is annoying fighting with a group of image. mad.gif
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i recomend u 1 hero. AXE. when he counter helixing... u can easily know which one is real image.

hohoho.. imagine u vs naga, terrorblade, phantom lancer, nessaj. image here n there

QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Aug 6 2005, 10:23 PM)
where to get animal courier ???
and, 1) i want to know, wat item adds up most damage/strength ??
2) strength is more important or damage more important ??
3) wat item will you all get if you have a lot of money ??
sorry, dota noob here and trying to learn dota
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u can get the animal at 4th shop at the base. just seacrh around wif a chicken icon

2 ) this one depends. u have to see ur which hero u r using too

3) i will try to get aegis+rapier combo

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post Aug 7 2005, 04:48 AM

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all info taken on http://www.dotacn.net/item_606.htm


Aegis of the Immortal

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650 + 1400 + 875 + 2500 = 5425

25% spell reduction, 11 hp regen, +10 armor
Reincarnation (charged, passive)



Divine Rapier

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3800 + 2600 + 1400 = 7800

+250 dmg
Can not be dropped
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Ah WanG
post Aug 8 2005, 01:27 PM

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littlelinnet pls refer this one for more info on orb effect
http://dota-allstars.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=877



taken from dotaportal.com
see how happy is the pudge wif such a cute smiling face laugh.gif

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post Aug 9 2005, 08:29 AM

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alamaklor tat day i used SB too... i can own ppl after level 6 till mid game.. but late game.. dunno how 2 own liao cos all hp so high n SB's hp ain't tat high

i cast ulti n then charge of darkness to kill ppl after level 6 but till late game.. this combo won't works liao... any tips on SB? wat item u get for him?
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post Aug 9 2005, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Aug 9 2005, 09:11 AM)

i dont use his 1st skill, pretty lame imho...usually i only pick 2 skills to master and extra skill points are spent on stat points. unless we are talking about some heroes like rylai...then that's different story.

oh btw, i also realised that you said something about ursa going lothar last time. And you didnt use enrage (and most ppl in dota/BS forum dont use it AFAIK *based on the post that i read) laugh.gif actually, what a shame...guess how much extra damage ursa does with 2800hp (around lvl 20 with a reaver) max, with enraged(lvl 4) turned on? 2800 X 0.16 = extra 448 per hit (thats almost 2 X rapier) laugh.gif ursa benefits from str alot more than he needs agility smile.gif


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ic ic.. i think is my mistake for not maxiing out the 2 skills then
normally i maxed out greater bash n charge of darkness..
cod is lame meh? cos i can stun him for 2 secs ler.. after the ulti then charge him.. pretty nice oso ma

for ursa case.. i did use enrage (btw enrage have 3 level only cos it is an ulti tongue.gif n only 8% of his max hp. in tat case if ur hp is 2800 it boost 224 att per hit )
i overpower first.. then lothar bhind ppl... enraged n whack... biggrin.gif


QUOTE(TheNameX @ Aug 9 2005, 10:06 AM)
Hmm... Satanic and S&Y is orb effect... so which one is preferable ??
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http://dota-allstars.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=877

lifesteal will overwrites maim
Ah WanG
post Aug 11 2005, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(baron1984 @ Aug 11 2005, 12:43 AM)
Can i ask something? the dota 6.12 actually what different with 5.84???? most my friend say 5.84 better... it's that true??
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v612b is more balance compare to v584
v584 have mroe bugs n imba hero than v612b

v612b have more way cool items n heros
v612b terrain is nicer wif snowy terrain (this one is self-claimed by me tongue.gif )
v612b have some cheaper item compare to 584c .. noted: some only.. not all.. some items in v612b is more expensive than v584c such as MoM
v612b have anti backdoor system ( but not tat anti too tongue.gif )






just played CTF mode yesterday.. using dragon knight from AR.. get a SnY n then turn on dragon form n take the flag then run back.. wow.. can 'feel' the dragon fly dam fast but actually the movespeed still the same tongue.gif
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post Aug 11 2005, 01:18 PM

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manta for soulkeeper is not tat great for me .. cos when i meta n i use manta.. i lose my meta

basher doesn't apply on images
butterfly's evasion does

i too noob in using soulkeeper liao .. but i like 1 tactics.. get lothar n dagon.. go find roshan n make him injured me till red life.. then on lothar cabut n go find hero.. go bhind him.. sunder.. dagon then att laugh.gif
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post Aug 12 2005, 08:40 AM

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ya u need to stand at fountain there (most probley after u death n revive) n type -recreate n wait for 200 secs ( i wonder y they put tat long period)

hero tat may need -recreate are ursa, dragon knight, naix, lycan
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post Aug 13 2005, 06:48 PM

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vs ar. i normally go for deso bcos it does stack wif his 2nd skills... -12 armor biggrin.gif after tat.. mkb then hyper...

my fren tried diffusal blade b4 too... swap.. purge.. whack whack whack .. then stun.. then whack whack whack

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