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TV Shows Game Of Thrones [Ended], Dream Of Spring
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azarimy
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May 24 2012, 09:45 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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TV is different from books. in the books, the author can spend as much time as he thinks necessary on a particular plot and have as many characters attached to it as he wants. martin did this many times in the books. interestingly, all the side characters will somehow appear later in the book, or different books. some even get POV.
but in TV, they have to work within a specific time. rather than maintain the large number of characters, they reduced it and use the time to concentrate on developing the central characters.
for example, in the 2nd book it wasnt quite clear the intention of margaery wedding renly. he just hinted it. but in book 3, it becomes quiet clear she intends to be THE queen.
on TV, they made it absolutely clear her intent during the death of renly. even adds more scripts and all.
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azarimy
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May 24 2012, 10:21 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(tekplyrX @ May 24 2012, 02:14 PM) Actually i believe its more of the TV networks not ready to invest in shows for a long time.. Have you seen any of these day time soap operas that run for years on end?! Dallas, days of our lives, bold n the beautiful, young and restless e.t.c... these shows have so many characters i always find it amazing when my sisters and their friends sit down and start discussing them. If the show and network execs have that kind of commitment they can indeed make the show like the books. well soap has a totally different appeal. if u read critiques about soaps, u'll be interested to know that soaps defy most written theories about writing. but somehow soaps can just go on and on and on without losing its appeal. GoT focuses on telling the story through select POV. the story is progressing quickly, and pacing is one of the most important thing in modern tv-series. u'd have to strike just the right balance to ensure people still can follow the story without getting bored with the same characters or vice versa. look at cancelled tv-series. some actually have good concept/appeal but failed to deliver. not everything can go down the soap path and survive.
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azarimy
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May 30 2012, 12:43 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ May 29 2012, 02:04 PM) Why the guy want to kill Tyron ? I kinda loss there it wasnt quite clear in the book as to whom ser mandon is serving. but afterwards it is believed that the queen ordered him to kill tyrion in the heat of battle bcoz tyrion insisted that joffrey be in the battle, risking the king's life. cersei would do anything to protect her kind. Added on May 30, 2012, 12:52 pmbtw, i've always had a nagging feeling that i've seen the actor who played joffrey in some other show before. today i realized he was in batman begins, near the end, protected by katie holme's character, then saved by batman. what a prik he become. This post has been edited by azarimy: May 30 2012, 12:52 PM
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azarimy
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Jun 3 2012, 10:18 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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one of the things that we have to always remember is that the story implies a lot of "situational assumptions". sometimes it is implied that this person killed that person, or this family plotted against that family. even if it's been repeated numerous times (like in the book), sometimes the truth is so much simpler.
for example, the death of jon arryn. it's so simple, so straightforward. but families went to war because of it. it's beautiful.
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azarimy
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Jun 9 2012, 11:24 AM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Jun 7 2012, 05:03 AM) good season.. Sansa and Tyrion rocks.. but i still rate this series way below my other favourites on going TV series.. 1 Mad Men2 Breaking Bad. . 3 Game of Thrones. . . will anticipate greatly the 3rd season.. wait till we get to the televised version of the 3rd book. but i heard they're going to split the 3rd book into 2 seasons. so i'm not sure where the best twists in the 3rd book will be placed. it might be in the 4th season and we have to wait till 2014!
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azarimy
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Jun 14 2012, 09:12 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(MISHUGINA @ Jun 14 2012, 11:31 AM) Entertainment Weekly revealed new characters for season 3 (no casting has been done yet) http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/05/29/game-of-...-season-3-cast/» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Mance Rayder: We’ve heard about him all season. A former member of the Night’s Watch who became the “King Beyond the Wall,” the leader of the Wildlings.
– Daario Naharis: A confident and seductive warrior.
– Jojen Reed; Meera Reed: A teenage brother and sister duo with special insights. – Edmure Tully: A brash young member of the Tully family. – Ser Brynden Tully (The Blackfish): Catelyn Stark’s uncle. – Lady Selyse Florent: Stannis Baratheon’s wife. – Shireen: Stannis’ daughter. – Olenna Redwyne (The Queen of Thorns): Margaery Tyrell’s sharp-witted grandmother. – Beric Dondarrion: A skilled knight who is the leader of the outlaw group Brotherhood Without Banners. – Thoros of Myr: A red priest who follows the same religion as Melisandre. – Tormund Giantsbane: A Wildling raider.
wasnt beric dondarrion already cast in the 1st season? they wanna recast him?
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azarimy
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Jun 15 2012, 11:23 AM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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i for one am fine with the changes. ripping off straight from the pages of the book might not work well on screen, especially given limited time. i'd have to say, there are certain portions of the book that wasnt really needed, just serving to enrich the story, which would still be fine without it anyway.
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azarimy
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Jul 5 2012, 01:33 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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brace yourselves.
red wedding is coming!
(for those who didnt know about red wedding or didnt read the book, DO NOT google for it!)
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azarimy
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Aug 22 2012, 09:37 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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the 4th and 5th was supposed to be one book. but it got too big.
rather than split it according to time-progression, martin decided to split it according to group of characters.
so basically book 4 is about one group of characters, book 5 is another group; both happening at the same time. only in the 2nd half of the 5th book that the two groups combine into one story.
i'm sure they'll take this into consideration when plotting the tv-series.
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azarimy
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Sep 4 2012, 01:28 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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i like the changes. some of the things in the book are great in text form, but can be a nightmare to turn into visual form. furthermore, it adds more to the story, makes it richer, while having a focused story telling method than the book.
the advantage of the book is, it's far broader than the tv-series. every side characters are given a certain back-story with its own invisible plot. so it might appear on the side in book 2, suddenly he/she became quite central in book 4. which i thought was brilliant, but could be very big problem to show in tv-series, because people forget these characters if they show to short. especially since they dont announce their names all the time so that u'll remember who they are.
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azarimy
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Sep 5 2012, 09:29 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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also, one other thing that i like about POV in the book is that, it deliberately left out things that the character didnt know.
for example, in character A's POV, he left everybody dead in the inn. so for all he cared, everybody's dead. and we were deliberately lead to believe what he believed. only until later, when character B stumbled upon the inn, and told other character C that X is alive. but we as the reader didnt know if X is really alive. we know A thought he killed everyone. B said he saw X alive. C only know X is alive from B.
it really creates an air of uncertainty. and we as the ready were always on our toes trying to figure out if X really alive or not? hahahhahahaha. (note that this is just an example, didnt wanna spoil anything to those who havent gone through the rest of the books).
that's why book 3 is just so awesome.
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azarimy
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Oct 5 2012, 12:37 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Oct 5 2012, 01:14 AM) guise.... just want 2 ask a Q here.... for season 1, apart from the 1st eposide...... is there a short recap from the last episode/pre-opening story b4 the opening credit for each episode? because i found that from eps 2 - 10... the show start wiz the opening credit, & my downloaded subtitle are kind of lag behind  depends on where your source took it from. US HBO may have recaps, but UK HBO usually doesnt. and sometimes the rippers themselves truncated the files to lighten the load.
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azarimy
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Oct 12 2012, 09:21 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Oct 11 2012, 04:34 PM) Can tell me which episode have the best smexy scene? Want to see all the smexy scene first so I can concentrate fully on the story line. there's a compilation online for all the sex/nude scenes. google it.
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azarimy
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May 6 2015, 07:35 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ May 6 2015, 09:38 AM) The last 10 minutes was the most retarded thing shown on GoT since Ramsay soloed the best fighters of the Ironborn while shirtless. Seriously, the Unsullied could have just moved back into the corridor and held formation with spears and shields. There was no way any of them would have died... and they were supposed to be the best infantry in the world. I cant remember whether from the book or the tv series, that the unsullied is the greatest army in the world, but even they would suffer in urban guerilla warfare.
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azarimy
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May 14 2015, 03:49 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ May 14 2015, 06:58 AM) Oh yeah, they can kill off Bronn anytime since he's no longer play a major role in the book, and now in the series, he's just a sidekick/bodyguard/servant of Jaime  u know, there's a very high tendency that sidekicks tend to survive well in this series.
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azarimy
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May 15 2015, 08:42 AM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ May 15 2015, 12:33 AM) Pod will sit on the Iron Throne by the last episode of Season 7. He will also be revealed to be Azhor Ahai Reborn some time during the start of Season 7. I think eventually we'll havr a showdown of all side characters: Bronn vs Sam vs Pod vs Missandei vs that smallest Stark kid vs the Baratheon girl vs Stannis' daughter etc etc...
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azarimy
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May 27 2015, 07:47 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(Snake'eyes @ May 27 2015, 10:58 AM) lolz. She's a Queen now. A boring Queen without charm. zzzzz Actually, its because she no longer wants to reveal herself in season 5 onwards.
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azarimy
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Jun 2 2015, 11:12 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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did the book actually mention/feature valyrian steel could defeat the white walkers? i think i kinda missed or forgotten about that.
another thing: white walkers raises the dead to become wights, right? and wights arent affected by dragon glass or valyrian steel like the white walkers are, right?
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azarimy
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Oct 30 2015, 11:08 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Oct 29 2015, 09:07 AM) http://io9.com/everything-we-know-about-ga...o-fa-1739264164» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « As expected, Jon Snow is not dead 'dead', in fact he will be leading the Houses of the North and wildlings armies against the Boltons  that would be an epic battle everyone will be looking forward to Tower of Joy, flash back of Bran seeing his young father duel with the legendary Ser Arthur Dayne! Siege of House Tully? return of Black fish? Lady Stoneheart?  and Kingsmoot!  It seems a lot of interesting plots will happen in S06, dun care much what's happening to that dragon riding biatch across the narrow sea, it seems most of the main actions will be on the Westeros.  I'm mega hyped now  bloody hell, lots of very interesting plots there. i'm happy enough if they could fulfill half of those!
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azarimy
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Apr 25 2016, 04:32 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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what have been seen...
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