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post Jul 13 2011, 07:09 PM

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I had my whole Honda Accord autofoam-ed before this, full package and on every single foamable spot smile.gif To be honest there are surely differences (nothing great) but the price we're paying is way too expensive (RM4K+). Since there are alternatives in the market these days, I will try other types of foam which is cheaper.

I'm speaking from the perspective of value vs money spent biggrin.gif
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post Jul 13 2011, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 13 2011, 08:25 PM)
Wow. 4K spent and only a little difference??? sweat.gif....i was thinking to do autofoam also...but after reading the feedback here, now have serious doubt. I think i just do some basic soundproofing elsewhere....hmm.gif
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I mean there are differences, for example the car feels more solid, a bit more stable during cornering and that's about it. This product won't transform a Proton Waja to a Mercedes or BMW biggrin.gif If it's priced cheaper then I would say it's worth to do it but at RM4K+ for the whole car, it's just extremely over-priced. If it's really that good, I would've foamed my new car top to bottom but I won't do it. No harm done if you have extra money to burn though, haha.


QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 13 2011, 08:34 PM)
but there are lots of good review can be found on the net about this autofoam. i personally believe that it will do wonder for my ride.

but i really want to know more. i hope Desmond can help clarify about those negative review about auto foam.
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Like I said there are differences and yes, it's good in some ways but again, the price we pay for is just not worth it. Imagine how much you can do with the RM4K+? smile.gif You can go elsewhere to do some simple sound proofing and although the effects are not so good, you can literally save a huge amount of money. You also need to know that RM4K+ is not the end of it. After that you will be introduced to sound proofing materials here and there, bla bla bla and that's another 1-2K. Overall you spend a fortune on the car but in reality, it's just a bit better than stock. Like I said, it won't transform a Waja to a BMW or Mercedes.

Just my real life experience with Autofoam. Personally I will do it if it's more reasonably priced.
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post Jul 14 2011, 12:18 AM

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I took the full package, full autofoam on the whole car inclusive of soundproofing on the trunk, etc smile.gif It costs that much and it will give improvements but I feel the price we're paying is a bit too much. That said, I rather try those Profoam products at a cheaper price. Maybe they won't work that well but at 60-70% cheaper, why not? biggrin.gif
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post Jul 14 2011, 12:48 PM

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RM1.1K is not so bad boss biggrin.gif Mine is mid size sedan so they charge more.
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post Jul 14 2011, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 14 2011, 10:27 PM)
your vios is the new model i reckon?

i am vios owner too, and what irritate me the most is the rattling sound. does autofoam help in reducing this sound? but i must say road condition did contribute. if i drive on a smooth road, the noise acceptable, but if i go through on uneven road, lots of potholes, my car would feel like im driving a lorry. noise here and there, rattling sound here and there...

im not a technical person but let me say this in layman term, i would like autofoam+soundproofing to help eliminate rattling sound of my vios. can it be done?
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I used to drive an Accord and as you know, the original sound proof and NVH is already quite good in some ways smile.gif I thought the same thing like you do thinking that Autofoam will help me with the rattling sound. The answer is "NO", it does not completely solve the problem. It reduced it a bit but you will still encounter rattling all over the place including your windows even after foaming the whole car.

There's nothing much you can do about that because Malaysia's weather is terribly hot and as time goes by, the rubber bushes, parts gets hardened and your car loses the ability to absorb vibration. Even our engine mounting screws up faster than usual.
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post Jul 15 2011, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(leechers @ Jul 14 2011, 11:30 PM)
well, i guess you are right about the weather. it's freaking hot out there.

if accord too have rattling sound, what can i expect from a vios? and how about bmw? judging from your pics, you seem to drive one. does malaysia hot weather affect bmw rubber too?
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BMW also gg.com laugh.gif Even my windows have some squeaking sound and I confirm autofoam won't solve my problem because it's nothing to do with the chassis but the rubber itself, haha. I need silicon spray and some lubricant or change the whole run channel which costs a bomb sad.gif
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post Sep 26 2011, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(oec88 @ Sep 25 2011, 03:16 AM)
AutoFoam makes me feels easy without any worries, because they are proven, even by Petronas  as mentioned by Desmond, TV3, owners from Singapore, and those sport car owner that have treated their precious one with AutoFoam.
1. This statement shows the power of marketing/advertising

2. These foams are not invented/made in Malaysia. Autofoam imported it and put their brand name

3. If the other foam sellers would put in money to make a brand name, marketing, advertising and allow Petronas, TV3 or some Rally drivers to testify and test, I am pretty sure the comments would be somewhat the same - the foam works

4. I have tried both foams and I can tell you the cheaper foams some sellers are selling are just as good as the Autofoam. Even if Autofoam is better (by a slight margin or by the brand name), do you think it's worth to pay 4x - 5x the price?

5. If we foam 5 x Toyota Vios with Autofoam and 5 more with IceFoam (or whatever we call it), flip them all around and ask an expert to label it, do you think the person could label all of them correctly? If not then this shows how minimal is the difference.

The money is yours so make a wiser choice when you buy such products smile.gif Just my 2 cents. Buying a DKNY white shirt costs multiple times more than a normal plain white shirt. Maybe it feels better, looks better but ask ourselves again, is it worth to pay so much more for the minimal difference and worse still, the brand name?
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post Sep 26 2011, 06:04 PM

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Like I said, it's all about marketing/advertising smile.gif If we start promoting another type of foam with a proper brand name, marketing, reviews, etc then it will eventually become popular. It's just like Michelin VS Continental tyres. On the other hand, I don't think the foam is from Wurth (at least what I have been told when I foamed my car years ago was something else).

Anyway it's a personal choice on how we spend our money biggrin.gif My point is clear, if the difference is minimal then it's pointless to pay so much more for something that will work.
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post Oct 1 2011, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 1 2011, 02:14 PM)
you downplay other competitors way too much desmond.

giving myself and probably other potential auto foamers a bad taste and second thoughts on deciding if i (or we) are to get our auto foam from you.

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To be honest those cheaper foam works just as well smile.gif It's good to have alternatives around, at least we don't pay a bomb for something that is supposed to be a lot cheaper. My 2 cents biggrin.gif
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post Oct 2 2011, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Oct 2 2011, 01:28 AM)
but to label others as fake  and yours  as original is not fair, since you did not r & d, nor did you patented the product.if i understand correctly, you are also sourcing the product from a foreign manufacturer...  so, to claim yours as original is just tooo far fetched.
+1 and I totally agree smile.gif The product is obviously not their own R&D and it is very likely competitors are probably using the same foam except they don't brand it.
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post Oct 3 2011, 01:21 AM

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This foam is probably known in Malaysia because the shop pioneering it claims all sort of nonsense that it stiffs the car, turns your Proton to a BMW, etc when in fact it's not recommended to foam the whole car. There's a reason why chassis are left hollow at some parts smile.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(sam sam @ Oct 3 2011, 08:41 AM)
When i foam my car at ice cube, he foamed the undercarriage but did not foam at the engine area. He gave a valid technical reason and he did mention he had tried it before and in his opinion did not work well for him in terms of comfort. Ice cube must have done some RnD too. Also you would want the engine part of the chassis to crumple during a major accident and not transfer the energy to the other parts of the car
Kelvin definitely has a point smile.gif It's literally stupid to foam the whole car and if this thing really works, all the manufacturers will start making chassis that is solid and not hollow. The selling point is that these hollow parts would give you vibration and generate noise so we are asked to pay RM3-4K to foam the whole bloody car biggrin.gif Good thing is that we now know there's a competitor selling the same product at a much cheaper price.


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QUOTE(squareballs @ Oct 3 2011, 11:46 AM)
looks like this topic leads to no where..
foam vs foam.. we consumers will never know the " real" differences..

my autofoam is more than 1 year.. initially Syok but now just normal feel..

no point for me to do more upgrades.. now is gatal want change car..

so if u plan to keep the car for 10 years. go for it..

my wife's Mazda 2 hb I also plan to foam it as she will definitely use that car for a long time.. but this m2 hb is already hard on the suspensions.. if I foam it.. I wonder will it become a track car..
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If you really want to foam then you should look for Kelvin. I'm pretty sure it's the same product except he don't brand it something else and claim credit that it's his own invention smile.gif Charges should be reasonable and that's what he is doing. Foaming a car and transform it to a BMW is a pure rubbish marketing statement, lol.

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post Oct 4 2011, 03:18 PM

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It's good to hear that we now have many of alternatives and competition means it's better for consumers smile.gif
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post Oct 4 2011, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Oct 4 2011, 03:31 PM)
Those that are trying the alternative brands, do please share photos + reviews on Lowyat... These will help future potential buyers or those considering foaming their chassis...
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Like I said it's the same foam, lol smile.gif I went for Kelvin's foam and saved a lot of $$$
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post Oct 5 2011, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(ericccheong @ Oct 4 2011, 07:32 PM)
I can't quite agree that all foam is the same except if they all came from the same supplier. I would assume that the ingredients that different suppliers put in to make the foam would give them different properties.
You need to know this is a product with a niche market. Do you think if we have 5-10 manufacturers making the same products in mass production, they can survive? smile.gif How many people actually foam their cars so please don't be surprised it's from the same manufacturer but with a different brandname. We all know that in Malaysia, it's quite hard to find a really honest/gentleman businessman.
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QUOTE(amir_tengkorak @ Oct 5 2011, 09:29 AM)
alvin support kao2 siot..makes me also want to do the foam.. drool.gif
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Haha, go ahead and do it biggrin.gif It's so cheap and affordable these days and just don't go Autofoam (the price is a total rip off).


QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 5 2011, 09:38 AM)
Yeah, if foaming is so good, surely the high-end cars like Benz, BMWs, Lexus etc...will have some foaming? Or do they? Anyone can share?
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They probably have some and it's not practical to foam the whole car because if it does, they would already done it ages ago.


QUOTE(ericccheong @ Oct 5 2011, 11:30 AM)
Don't know if anybody's asked this, but does foaming and those strut/anti-roll bars serve almost the same function? I know that reinforced bars and member braces made my friend's A4 a tad bouncy (but he was also on 19 inchers).

Or can there be a combination of the foam and the bars?
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The problem is not with the anti-roll bar but the road conditions in Malaysia. These bars are not really recommended for our roads because almost everywhere, our roads are wavy and not flat smile.gif As such you will have a bumpy ride because of the uneven roads. In Europe and US, the roads are flat and even so the anti-roll bars only works when they take corners but over here, it works all the time, lol.
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post Oct 5 2011, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(amir_tengkorak @ Oct 5 2011, 03:39 PM)
the most fear is,total lost if involve in an accident..kena under carriage one..
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Total lost means insurance will pay you and no point repairing smile.gif
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post Oct 5 2011, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 5 2011, 05:08 PM)
But will insurance says you modified your car with dunno what, so cannot claim?? Insurance companies will find any excuse not to pay....sweat.gif
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That's obviously not true smile.gif No such thing as they don't pay you because you've modified the car, LOL

 

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