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Autofoam Review
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changleonghao
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Jul 27 2019, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jul 26 2019, 11:05 PM) I think the foam works, just whether you will like the setup or new feel or not. If you regret it, can't undo the foam did autofoam on my waja over 15 years ago. yes, it's snake oil. if such a great foam can replace steel, definitely car manufacturers would use it. the boss desomond is a sly one with a sweet mouth. even the so-called audio tuning is load of crap. but that;s a story for another time.
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changleonghao
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Jul 27 2019, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 27 2019, 11:50 AM) Foam in crevices only works as sound dampener. It does not assist in structure integrity. You can do a simple test. Fill a pipe either steel or plastic. Knock the pipe before you foam it up. You can hear the hollow sound. Foam it up wait to cure. Then knock the pipe again. It sounds rigid & solid. Try to break the pipe, hammer, hydraulics, etc. They break the same way. It is perceived structural strength. not agree on sound dampener. sound/vibration travels easier over foam then air.
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changleonghao
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Jul 28 2019, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(Sapphy @ Jul 27 2019, 03:31 PM) Been reading this thread for awhile already. Been on the fence whether to do it or not. Currently on bmw f30 328i M sport with m adaptive suspension on m3 underbrace and ur strut bar. So, my ride was pretty stiff. And i really do enjoy the firm and stiff ride, and looking for ways to further improve it while keeping the comfort unchanged as much as possible. That planted firm feeling when you take corners at high speed really is addicting. But daily driving it is a different story, given how bad our roads are in the city đȘ. Reading how AF does help in reducing some noise and improve the chassis without weight penalty sounds really great. As you know, sound deadening materials are heavy. While searching for more info regarding chassis foamin, i came across this post in a bimmer forum. I might drop by Desmond shop one of these days to hear what he would say. I kinda believe it works because bobby also sent his s4 there for chassis foaming hahah Thg is, KL auto has no expertise on adjusting suspension to compensate. And for the amount paid, intangible benefits at best. If ur car still under warranty, then autofoam voids it.
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changleonghao
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Jul 28 2019, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 28 2019, 10:01 AM) Local shops and their workers has nowhere near the expertise described in the article you quoted. And don't believe everything Bobby says. Yeah, fat Bobby videos are shoddy, poor viewpoints and shoddy audio. He canât talk properly also. Keeps on repeating. Kon is much better, autobuzz team also very good.
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changleonghao
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Jul 28 2019, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jul 28 2019, 11:57 AM) I think different car after foaming will get different results. Some cars are with multi-link suspension, some with torsion beam. Some cars are made with sporty setup some are just family car setup. Some car uses 'harder' steel some are not. So how can the results be the same ?? Or satisfactory to all ?? But one thing is for sure, if they car has too much of too much body roll then definitely need it Thatâs the whole point. KL auto guys are just bunch of ppl not qualified and trained. They wonât know anything more abt car design compared with any one out there. All their knowledge is from magazines, and âown theoryâ. So in order to make money, they need to add in a lot of snake oil talk. Sometimes it works as ppl want to believe there are positive results after spending so much.
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changleonghao
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Jul 29 2019, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Jul 29 2019, 02:34 PM) I am not expert in autofoam but logically thinking. Car manufacturer spend a lot of R&D in fine tuning their cars for stability and cornering. So by default, out of the factory, the cars are tuned to best spec possible from manufacturer. By adding those foam, you are compromising the integrity of the vehicle and might actually more harm than good. Therefore, for me it installing autofoam, need to make sure the installer knows what he is doing. Different cars might need to use different way of installing autofoam. Just my 2 cents. exactly. klauto has no expertise on vehicle design and dynamics. all just bullshit and snake oil. but kudos to them for surviving so long and making so much money.
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changleonghao
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Jul 30 2019, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Jul 30 2019, 09:24 AM) Agreed I think Bobby has sold his soul. He used to be very opinionated but now, every car is good. Every product people recommend is good. Come on, foaming chassis? Do they know where the weak points of the car is? Joke Bobby is just a platform for advertisement Dont get me started on Desmond the snake oil salesman fat bobby and snake desmond needs to do what needs to be done to get money. that's life.
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changleonghao
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Jul 30 2019, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Jul 30 2019, 11:17 AM) Damn... I thought I had bad experience with Desmond. You too? Heâs seriously an arrogant con artist which survived for so long already and there are many dumb supporters who donât know shit about the consequences of autofoam to their cars. I wrote a honest opinion on the YouTube and Bobby just defended Desmond kaw kaw. Seriously, Bobbyâs review is just pure advertising material. Same as most of most local car reviews such as paultan! To me, autobuzz still earns my respect to be a proper quality car reviewer. U must realize that the autobuzz team is still young. But hanging around wt fat Bobby, and his plush condo, bmw, xc90 naturally turn them to be an advertising whore soon.
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changleonghao
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Aug 24 2019, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(Jonsnow68 @ Aug 23 2019, 12:22 PM) When it comes to reviewing products & services, I trust Chris Wee and Kon more than Bobby. I just feel like Bobby kinda hard selling lol. Both of them under bobby yet speaks better than him. Bobby sounds like a bitch on heat. Anyway kon tried to sell 150 keychain when u can get it at rm5 from mr diy.
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changleonghao
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Aug 24 2019, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(hong3831 @ Aug 24 2019, 11:24 AM) Just watch for fun or as reference, do not trust social media influences too much~ haha autobuzz seems good. thr team still young. not tainted yet
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