Actually the gearbox seems reluctant to upshift into the higher gear, not just into the final gear, especially when the pedal is pressed a little bit more. Btw. 60KM/h is minimum speed I could upshift into the 4th gear using tiptronic. And if I'm not mistaken, if the speed is below 50KM/h, it will drop back to 3rd gear. Talking about tiptronic (or shiftronic in Forte), does the car, or rather the gearbox, drop the gear for you, when you're in shiftronic mode? 308T does, which sometimes could be a mess. Just imagine you are a little bit late for dropping the gear, the car would end up dropping 2 gears! That's why most of the time, in tiptronic mode, I only 'control' the upshifting and let the car do all the downshifting

The air conditioner case is a thing that most of 308 owners agreed, which is not as cold as Proton. You could read it @Autoworld forum. However it is not a defect. It is just the way Peugeot design their car. Maybe because of the cold climate in Europe. However there's a solution to this. I'm yet to do it so I can't tell the result. But from the owners who already did it, all of them said it works. I mean the air conditioner is now as cold as Proton's.

Funny, my experience is that it drops to 3rd at 65-70kmh, never below 60 let alone 50. Oh well. I've suffered the same thing as the part I bolded, hence I usually leave it in full auto mode while driving the Pug.

For the Forte, it downshifts from 4th to 3rd at approx 40-50kmh. Most of the time it's closer to 40 although if you're rolling at 50kmh in 4th gear you'll lose most of the torque. You're still able to accelerate using the 4th gear, but for quick sprints you're better off manually dropping it to 3rd via shiftronic.

I'm using shiftronic full time for the Forte; mostly to time my upshifts to the appropriate speeds although I do manually downshift early to take corners quickly. One noticable bad thing about the Forte's box is that it often is indecisive at 40kmh - it just doesn't know whether to downshift to 2nd or remain in 3rd... most of the time it stays in 3rd and causes the car to lose acceleration when exiting the corner.

For the air con issue, I suppose it's just because I never really had experience with Protons so can't compare; but the Pug's air con is already cold enough. Just need to turn down the temperature settings and it'll becoming freezing.

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Jun 25 2010, 03:29 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zy78tFPQwQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYIyCmcuQno

watch both of this..especially the last one,you'll be certain to take the ford fiesta!

if the 308T can get a nice gearbox then it's almost perfect it seems

if i were the family man but my brain still like teenager i choose kia forte

but at the age of mind i took ford forte .. i want speed.

hmm..Peugeot i don't like the design though

im a Nissan driver btw both all peugeot and kia i already tested it..kia forte have keyless entry,push to start just like my car!,iphone or ipod build in(WTF if im not iphone owner how?)many feature kia have cover here.im not sure spare part how. but the price is awesome which give 2.0cc that saliva dropping

YOU DID A GOOD CHOICE...PLS DONT WORRY

You're weird.

he take ford forte means he choose forte then BOT the car hahahaha.

he mistyped...i think is fiesta....
anyway, i gt no problem using my forte yesterday in penang hill(between bkt jambul n air hitam)
although mine juz 1.6SX model, it serves me well, as for shiftronic, i can manually shift.
but i used full auto, i juz press pedal abit harder, it downshifted from 4th to 3rd...and it gains more torque again...
i go for forte...since i owned 1...the features inside makes me lovin it...esp the ETC and the brake corner control...really serve me well

Thank you so much for all your inputs! You guys are a helpful bunch really. I've decided to wait for the fiesta to come out in Aug and check it out then make the final decision. Hope that SDAC will make a wise decision to put in all the interesting freebies for our version then Fiesta is gonna be a great bargain!

Nope. But on the receipt, it's written 85k because I booked the highest spec. I guess it depends on which one you are gonna book.
But I'm a little skeptical that it's gonna be OTR price. I think most prob OTR is gonna be 90k at least. Unless they only give basic features for the interior.

typo error

The latest episode of Driven reviews the Fiesta, although I must say it's not a very good review and the total score of 9/10 doesn't seem to be based on anything (especially when cars like Forte, E90 got 7/10).

Good decision to wait for the Fiesta in August... gotta see what kind of stuff they throw into the Malaysia version.

Honestly the B-segment market in Malaysia is really messed up... you're either stuck with Protons/Peroduas, or you're forced to pay actual C-segment prices for the City/Vios/Latio. Even worse, the price Toyota/Honda charges for Yaris/Jazz is absolutely ridiculous.

what website is it??

http://paultan.org/2010/06/30/internationa...r-2010-results/