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post Aug 24 2010, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ Aug 24 2010, 07:17 PM)
depending on what motherboard, processor you're using. using low end pentium dual core with regular p43 chipset mobo of course is probably not gonna reach 300w, but if you're talking about 130w stock rated i7 processors which are overclocked and high end motherboards that support 2 way/3way sli and uses multiple 4pin pwm fans and 24pin + 8 pin mobo, then i'd get more watts just to be safe.

although your gc wont always be operating at peak load, no one will be happy when they're having fun playing their games at max settings and OMFG their pc just restarted out of no where.

if you don't care about having the risk of experiencing sudden restarts, then sure, you may SLI gtx460 with 600w rated psu.
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My friend runs 5830CF + 955BE + 2 HDDs + fancy fans around 4 pieces and a pair of CCFL tubes on Vantec 600W, no problem at all. Mind you gtx460 consumes considerably lesser power than 5830. About the CPU, it's the same case, the CPU is not going to be peaking all the time. It might pose some risks back in a few years ago, but as of the smaller dye fabrication now it's no biggie, as both CPU and GC are the two hardwares that feed on power in a system mostly.

QUOTE(markoton1 @ Aug 24 2010, 10:07 PM)
for that problem did you off you PSU switch before you main power switch, if im not wrong it affect abit???
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I have never heard of that, but I think many people will not believe it, or the truth is only grain-sized as I bet 95% of people here have never actually switched off the PSU itself for as long as their occupation on computers.
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post Aug 24 2010, 11:45 PM

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Want to know how much power your rig consumes ? Get a power meter ...
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post Aug 25 2010, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(88sales88 @ Aug 24 2010, 11:45 PM)
Want to know how much power your rig consumes ? Get a power meter ...
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It's a totally useless idea for someone who wanted to buy a rig.
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post Aug 25 2010, 09:37 AM

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I bought one power meter...hehe...my main rig < 200W on load with SC2 and 3DMark06...(E5400@4Ghz@1.4v and 5750 1GB OCed).

My new download rig is only 70W to 80W ...and can go down to 6xW. (E5300 with EG45M-DS2H integrated X4500HD...). Should have dumped my turtle ATOM 330 rig long ago...I guess the ATOM use 40W or so.

BTW, i never switched off my PSU. Ever. And i haven't have one burned PSU yet.

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post Aug 25 2010, 11:02 AM

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me use 5770cf with unlock 555x2 to x4 oc 3.8ghz/1.45v with acbel 510w..until now no prob stable..i try measure using power meter total under load my pc consume 510w from soket.
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post Aug 25 2010, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(markoton1 @ Aug 24 2010, 10:07 PM)
for that problem did you off you PSU switch before you main power switch, if im not wrong it affect abit???
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it was a power trip, not that i switch off the plug before properly shutting down, heck i never power down my pc unless i wanna add in hard disks... i couldn't have predicted power trips sad.gif

and, slight buzzing sound coming from your psu could be the active pfc that's kicking in... if your psu has it that is...


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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Aug 24 2010, 10:41 PM)
My friend runs 5830CF + 955BE + 2 HDDs + fancy fans around 4 pieces and a pair of CCFL tubes on Vantec 600W, no problem at all. Mind you gtx460 consumes considerably lesser power than 5830. About the CPU, it's the same case, the CPU is not going to be peaking all the time. It might pose some risks back in a few years ago, but as of the smaller dye fabrication now it's no biggie, as both CPU and GC are the two hardwares that feed on power in a system mostly.
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how long has your friend been using the pc? how long does your friend play games in a day? if its all about being idle most of the time, 600w is more than enough, in fact you can try to add in another card on idle mode. if its constant 8~12 hours gaming a day and that your gc and proc are at full load, especially for gc, i'll be surprised that the psu can still last after a year, and that your friend didn't experience any sudden restart within that 1 year period.

i have few cases of my own where i get sudden restarts just from 3dmark vantage/furmark on a 4850cf, but at that time i was having like 8 sanyo denki 103cfm fans running at full speed as well and my proc oc'ed to 4ghz @ 1.3v. i managed to finish the test after i plugged out some fans, and i was running on a 600w at that time. consumption wise, 4850 is more or less like 5770, and my proc's power consumption matches the current i7 @ 130w or more due to oc state. i also have a friend who's on 450w and is complaining about his pc suddenly restarting whenever he plays game for few minutes, especially on intense action areas, and he's using p5q3 and c2q with a 4850oc.

but i also have a friend whos on the same 450w model psu but on a p7p55 and i7 860 with a hd4850oc and experiences no sudden restarts. but i wont be surprised he'll get it once he upgraded his mobo to a maximus 3 formula tongue.gif

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post Aug 26 2010, 03:07 AM

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i would only suggest pc power & cooling psu......

why? suggest to google it biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ Aug 25 2010, 11:04 AM)
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1 month post the release of 5830, now it's time to wait for a few more months for the 'symptom' to kick in?. Heh don't talk about PSU lasting yada yada to me man. Do I need to tell you how my CM EPP 500W still alive and kicking after 2 years powering OCed E8400 to 3.8Ghz + OCed GTX260+? Many called that as impossible, my PSU was gonna explode ohnoeez, but it didn't. Most 80+% PSUs are designed to maintain operating consistency well far above the commonly believed 'ideal' load of 50%. GCs and CPUs power consumption are decreasing, and surprisingly I noted a stupid thing like the standard of required power consumption for a rig with a GC is changing, i.e increasing. And you should correct the info you stated, 5770 consumes relatively around 9600GT, not 4850 which is backed up by the need of only one PCIE connector. With all the HD4000 series you mentioned in your friends' cases, I wouldn't be surprised. Back then nvidia GT9000 range was better at power consumption if compared to the direct competition of HD4000 series. But like I said, things have changed for the better, GTX460 consumes somewhere between a 5770 and 5830. If it is already proven that a 600W could power up 5830CF safely, then why not the lesser GC? OC opportunity? That's why it is a must for a TS to state whether he/she would be OCing his/her rig, then only people here would recommend what wattage is deemed necessary, we don't just simply go straight to the point simply by looking at the GC + CPU smile.gif
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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Aug 26 2010, 07:52 AM)
1 month post the release of 5830, now it's time to wait for a few more months for the 'symptom' to kick in?. Heh don't talk about PSU lasting yada yada to me man. Do I need to tell you how my CM EPP 500W still alive and kicking after 2 years powering OCed E8400 to 3.8Ghz + OCed GTX260+? Many called that as impossible, my PSU was gonna explode ohnoeez, but it didn't. Most 80+% PSUs are designed to maintain operating consistency well far above the commonly believed 'ideal' load of 50%. GCs and CPUs power consumption are decreasing, and surprisingly I noted a stupid thing like the standard of required power consumption for a rig with a GC is changing, i.e increasing. And you should correct the info you stated, 5770 consumes relatively around 9600GT, not 4850 which is backed up by the need of only one PCIE connector. With all the HD4000 series you mentioned in your friends' cases, I wouldn't be surprised. Back then nvidia GT9000 range was better at power consumption if compared to the direct competition of HD4000 series. But like I said, things have changed for the better, GTX460 consumes somewhere between a 5770 and 5830. If it is already proven that a 600W could power up 5830CF safely, then why not the lesser GC? OC opportunity? That's why it is a must for a TS to state whether he/she would be OCing his/her rig, then only people here would recommend what wattage is deemed necessary, we don't just simply go straight to the point simply by looking at the GC + CPU smile.gif
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that info is very helpful indeed, and i thank you for that. my info is probably not that accurate as i have no friends that are using hd5000 series atm. 1 month after 5830 releases is not that long, but i believe if problems were to occur, it would have occurred sooner or later. E8400 oc to 3.8ghz with a gtx260+ oc'ed doesn't sound as much as a GTX460 SLi with oc'ed 3.8ghz i7, but you are right, we should consider whether TS will be overclocking his proc/gc and also what type of proc he's using.
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ Aug 26 2010, 02:12 PM)
E8400 oc to 3.8ghz with a gtx260+ oc'ed doesn't sound as much as a GTX460 SLi with oc'ed 3.8ghz i7, but you are right, we should consider whether TS will be overclocking his proc/gc and also what type of proc he's using.
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Err no, it was done on CM EPP 500W, the PSU that many people were skeptical before smile.gif With only roughly 420W stable power produced, it is certainly more than enough to power up the combo I mentioned, plus the PSU survival up until now (around 2 years already) should give you the idea that reviews are not everything once you ahve experienced it yourself smile.gif
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QUOTE(muhiann @ Aug 25 2010, 11:02 AM)
me use 5770cf with unlock 555x2 to x4 oc 3.8ghz/1.45v with acbel 510w..until now no prob stable..i try measure using power meter total under load my pc consume 510w from soket.
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510W!!! Cannot be lar...even CF, maybe 300 to 400W only. Are u sure u read correctly? Using the PowerLink Plus? There are a few readings by pressing the 'Func' key. It should be the 3rd one.

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Aug 26 2010, 03:47 PM)
Err no, it was done on CM EPP 500W, the PSU that many people were skeptical before smile.gif With only roughly 420W stable power produced, it is certainly more than enough to power up the combo I mentioned, plus the PSU survival up until now (around 2 years already) should give you the idea that reviews are not everything once you ahve experienced it yourself smile.gif
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erm... im stating based on experience, not reviews sweat.gif

i wont really be skeptical even if its on EPP 500w as the proc you oc'ed is a c2d, which iirc requires lesser voltage to pump for 3.8ghz compared to quaddies for most batches. if you're using quaddie and you pumped more than 1.3v for 3.8ghz, i'd be skeptical then biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ Aug 26 2010, 05:47 PM)
erm... im stating based on experience, not reviews sweat.gif

i wont really be skeptical even if its on EPP 500w as the proc you oc'ed is a c2d, which iirc requires lesser voltage to pump for 3.8ghz compared to quaddies for most batches. if you're using quaddie and you pumped more than 1.3v for 3.8ghz, i'd be skeptical then biggrin.gif
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I wasn't saying at you lah, my point was to inform people that don't take reviews 100% as they are smile.gif Dual core or quad core, even hexacore it doesn't matter much. I blew a duallie before for pumping over 1.45v so I know how serious it was to play with voltage, the best thing is to avoid vcore tweak unless you are equipped with proper coolant.

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