yeah lo..... same thickness with the 1st turret (i feel is ugly compare to 7.5 second turret )
really not a trade off to unlock that just for the slight longer view range
all 7.5 Pz4 users will shout: What Happen to my Pz4??????

yeah, if team with good players, we can move at 2nd line, my VK3601 stay 100% till the end of match, do not take kill, but did help our heavies to deal damage on opponents

accuracy wise, is decrease a little

old turret is strong, i hull down, and take down a KV-1S, he want to snipe with me, end up all his shot miss, or bounce by my old turret, only 1 of his shot manage to damage me.


i hate to meet such teammates, during a match, my pz4 faster than KV1, so I move a little foward, and stop beside a rock, to cover that place while wait heavies to move foward, who know, the 2 KV1 camp at base....
yesterday night i score 7 kill with my KV1 (i am high tier), my team another KV1, and half of the team 'snipe' at base, taking 0 kill with 100% hp
I do not know those ppl, but KV1 accuracy bad, when sniping, u hardly to hit the opponent, while exposing ur location for arty at the same time.

btw, anyone use the physics to push smaller tanks?

This post has been edited by onghy: Sep 28 2012, 10:47 AM

I do not use 122mm, that one for close combat, just likek 105mm on Pz4

122mm slow reload, low accuracy, low penetration, high damage

that dude use that to snipe u totally duno what he doing

I use 85mm gun on my Kv1, quite a nice gun for T5 tank

low armor, low damage, speed and rate of fire slower than T34
pz4 no longer a sniper tank, feel it more like a light tank, u just keep hearing: we just ding them, that one bounce, we cant penetrate their armor
WG making russian tank superior in it's tier

lol.... russian medium have speed and high rate of fire.....

there are lot of discussion about Pz4 at wot forum, i really lazy to talk more about that, there going a premium tank version of Pz4 come out, with the L70 gun, and i believe this is a tactic of WG to earn some $$ from cash players

normal ehh... many will think of: online stuff should be free..

but i not happy that, old pz4 players struggle to get the 2nd turret and 75mm L70 gun, now they simply remove that gun, making pz4 totally different tank, and tell pz4 players: change playing style
new pz4 stock turret already ready to fix the 75mm L48 gun, meaning our struggle at early days was wasted. i really feel hard to let go my Pz4, i've pawn it to elite tank.

recently team up with a lot of n00b, making me like wtf. heavies camping at a corner of map, or at encounter battle, whole team go to opponent spawn place, leaving the cap zone empty, end up other team won by capture the base, happened few times

This post has been edited by onghy: Oct 1 2012, 09:02 AM

ur teammate all hiding?

i see leichtraktor

ahh..... do not entitled for old players?

no need to envy, most important have fun:)

really cant understand, i ride PZ4 move with a t40 and KV1, in front of us is a T1HT, then I decide to use my speed cut to his back, both t40 and KV1 hide in cover, not dare to go out, end up all die, why they all so scare of one enemy lie ahead, no team work at all?

another match I ride a KV1, with VK3601 and Panther, 3 of us settle a Tiger, only VK3601 damaged 26% of hit points by Tiger, me and Pnther full hp.

this new pz4 low power ahh, i shot at back of T1H1, only deal total 104 damage from 3 shots...

This post has been edited by onghy: Oct 1 2012, 11:37 PM

tiger need 45k exp only ehh......
but after unlock tiger, u headache.... no enough credit to buy tank

low penetration ahh...


finally..... can do something with new pz4, after losing streak......
but that gun (still come back to this) really insufficient power to damage T7 tanks, see T29, run faster....
hav to hide in bushes to take shot, KV1 2 or 3 shots can take me out, M6 take 90% of my hp with 1 shot

Tiger can use everything from VK3601, in the mean time to unlock last engine, can use VK3601's engine and short 88mm

traktor can farm?
i get bore with the match at Ville map, all hiding, no one move, wasting time at that map, when playing low tier tank at that map, hell no!!! after i finish 2 battle at higher tier, tank from that map still in battle.....

I believe it is Pz4 premium version (that fix with L70 gun, 2nd turret and wire-mesh side-skirts.)
there are some hot discussion on wot forum, and leak picture (i cant access that forum from company network)
they remove Type 59 from store due to too many players buy that tank.

This post has been edited by onghy: Oct 3 2012, 10:56 AM

Cant understand, everytime i play in this map, my team will move like this......
n00bs all around.....

more unit cap, speed faster,

no wrong to flank, i did that also, but when whole team flank, ur team in trouble. when pushing in to city from flank, only front tanks can shot, tanks at back got no space to fire on opponent, and u just let them cap the base and win. Everytime when I see my team move to whole group like this, i know we will lose.

This post has been edited by onghy: Oct 4 2012, 09:45 AM

issit? not aware on this....

This post has been edited by onghy: Oct 4 2012, 10:27 AM

SEA player funny, no care for mission objective, want make kill only

saw some close test video, world of warplane need joystick to play
but i look forward to world of warships

is there Russia player at SEA?

permanent change? or event special?

i do not think of this, cause if i retrain from my medium tank to heavy tank crew, 40% reduction

last time same class is 20% reduction, different class 40% reduction

I duno now got revise on the % reduction