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 Petronas(work) or Paris(Masters)?, Help me to decide!! (urgent)

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TSroti bakar
post Jun 19 2010, 11:45 AM, updated 16y ago

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Guys,

Im 27 this yr.
Bachelor's degree-Chem Eng (local U).
Master's degree-HSE Eng (local U-juz completed).
Working experience-negligible

Received two offers last week.

Offer 1:
Petronas-Based in KLCC.
Basic 4K
Involves travelling all around the world to meet clients, requires people skill (PR).
The only con- it's a non-technical position has nothing to do with my 6 yrs of tertiary education.
*Once I reject this offer I have to forget tis dream company forever

Offer 2:
Another technical masters degree-taught in English (1.5 yrs)
Based in French Petroleum Institute (Paris)
Fully funded by Technip of France (not Malaysia).
Upon completion I can choose to work at Technip.
Surprisingly there is no bond-confirmed! (updated info)


Frankly i'm a kampung boy-ultra poor- (never been on flight-not even s'pore- shakehead.gif !!)
But I have a lots of confidence in me that I can survive tough environments.
I have no dependands to support at the moment but considering my age I'm asking my self wen I gona start work, setup family, property, etc etc..
I find tis a rare opportunity..
Sifus plz shed ur thought and help me to decide... icon_question.gif rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by roti bakar: Jun 27 2010, 08:43 AM
TSroti bakar
post Jun 19 2010, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(visigoth90 @ Jun 19 2010, 11:56 AM)
petronas is the best place to work. work security, lifetime n great benefits!
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Not necessarily,
Ppl are under pressure in Pet..
Job security no more as each OPU 'll required to submit 10% of the least performing staff evr yr to be terminated sad.gif
TSroti bakar
post Jun 19 2010, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(zeewhy @ Jun 19 2010, 12:27 PM)
roti bakar.. good for you. both r good. r u graduated with a petroleum related degree? what is technip's offer after the study?  design related?
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Bachelors-Chemical Engineering
Masters-HSE (Health, Safety & Env)
TSroti bakar
post Jun 20 2010, 12:58 PM

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Hi Guys..

Tanx for your time and all the valuable input..
Any IFP alumni or current student here?

I would like to know more bout the student life in IFP..
TSroti bakar
post Jun 27 2010, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(Geek In Action @ Jun 26 2010, 03:09 AM)
Wow, an eye opener. Thanks for sharing bro.
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They consider exceptional cases.


Added on June 27, 2010, 9:05 am
QUOTE(Tfazuin @ Jun 25 2010, 04:44 PM)
If you want experience join any service company, Technip being French are not the most generous of the lot, lagipun at 27 you only have 3 more years to go offshore before you're officially banned/desk bound. In Schlumberger you need to be below 30 for your first offshore passport.

Look, you don't need 2 MBA's MSC's to get a good pay. My friend with a normal UTM Chemical Engineering degree  just 2nd class upper aja, is already a certified deepwater specialist at 26, at 25 he managed to do recovery for drilling mud worth USD5M which would otherwise been a very costly disposal. Btw now at 30 is is they youngest MD of a drilling fluid plant company, a local malaysian singh and he only make 30K plus a month, which is about an expat's salary, excluding bonuses and benefits.

As for me, I graduated at 29 ha ha ha, with a degree in Marketing doing part time in UPM, I make above average as a former supply chain manager for a service company, a business analyst and now I am about to let go of all that at 35. Both of us are moving on to set up our own company not related to OnG. So you're still thinking of studying eh? Hmm my former procurment assistant is now Fasttrack on MI as new Field Manager at 27, grad at 24 worked for me as procurement assistant for six months and had a hire letter from Houston. Btw she's a girl, 5 '1 a Sabahan.

There's only so much that can be read from the books. In this business its all about work experience, comparing that to the basics that you have learned and building contacts.So if you still would like to read/study to me that's a big loss on your end. To me you're too old and too late to go offshore already and perhaps a teaching job or a research job would be more suited. Get off the books and start doing practical stuff. Its my advise, nak dengar x nak sudah, but you're way way way behind the curve...
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Hey appreciate ur reply.
Thanx for the tickle of the mind..

My future boss at Pet told me to take up the offer 1st thn later I can jump into Corporate Safety (technical site) or something else related to my qualification.But lately I came to knw many new hires resign aftr 1-2 yr coz they never given a role that they wanted.. Lots of technical grads thrown into non-technical.And there r 1000s waiting in the Job Change Application (JCA) queue at Petronas.


Added on June 27, 2010, 9:16 am
QUOTE(sungami @ Jun 27 2010, 01:12 AM)
Aik, I never know Technip Malaysia sends ppl to IFP for study. Must be something new I guess.
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Not Technip Malaysia.
Technip HQ of France.
First time they recruit Malaysian.
Myself and another gul from UPM got it.


Added on June 27, 2010, 9:18 am
QUOTE(un.deux.trois @ Jun 23 2010, 08:08 AM)
How many years will you be bonded to Technip if you take their offer? While I will say it's never a good thing to get your hands and feet tied to a company because you'll have zero bargaining power as long as you're with them, if the bond is for a few years then it may be a good thing after all.
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Updated info-No bond.
Employment offer upon completion.


Added on June 27, 2010, 9:23 am
QUOTE(den @ Jun 25 2010, 07:14 AM)
Wow. You obtained first class in degree and master?

Between, how many years for master in local U?
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I'm not 1st class student.
But I applied for both option.
Local u master depends on the courese.
U can finish within 1 yr if you can stand the stress.
Min 1 yr, Max 4 yr.
Time Mgmt & commitment needed.


Added on June 27, 2010, 9:24 am
QUOTE(kevler @ Jun 25 2010, 12:04 PM)
go for master , bro

this is my suggestion from experienced worker :-)
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But this will be my 2nd masters.
Im asking myself is this necessary for me..


Added on June 27, 2010, 9:26 am
QUOTE(coolkid_85 @ Jun 26 2010, 11:59 AM)
try joinin petronas...
then...in the mean while..try gettin sum experience...
i know a few people who did tat...
then ..once u join them..work for them a year or 2..u will get new contacts from new companies..then u switch la... better $$ smile.gif
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It's not only about money.
Only 2 chosen frm Malaysia to enroll for this prgm.


Added on June 27, 2010, 9:29 am
QUOTE(artline500 @ Jun 26 2010, 07:47 PM)
i'm come from engineering background and currently in engineering dept in O&G company. the position and my roll is compatible.

i read for 5 years to get my roll and once started working, i have to learn from scratch again.

bottoline is, work experience counts more than the roll
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Learning is a non-stop process.
Evrtime we change company/ industry we need to start frm almost zero again.New environment, new challenges.


Added on June 27, 2010, 9:32 am
QUOTE(corallinkz @ Jun 27 2010, 06:47 AM)
once reject, petronas wont accept u again, NEVER?
wow, just know this, today
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They consider exceptional cases.


Added on June 27, 2010, 9:35 am
QUOTE(visigoth90 @ Jun 19 2010, 11:56 AM)
petronas is the best place to work. work security, lifetime n great benefits!
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It's arguable and a very subjective statement.
It all depends on what you expect from ur employer and vice versa..


Added on June 27, 2010, 9:36 am
QUOTE(disasterheroes @ Jun 19 2010, 11:52 AM)
take master at Technip laa dey.
mana tau dapat kerja sana. more better than petronas
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But not everyone can get a cubicle in the Twin Towers.


Added on June 27, 2010, 10:49 am
QUOTE(kevler @ Jun 25 2010, 12:04 PM)
go for master , bro

this is my suggestion from experienced worker :-)
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Which industry are you from?
Based on what points?
By the time I complete this prgm I'll be in my early 29 with 1 bachelor n 2 masters but 0 experience.

Lecturing is not my choice hmm.gif

This post has been edited by roti bakar: Jun 27 2010, 10:49 AM

 

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