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4Rings
post Jul 7 2010, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(td00164306 @ Jul 6 2010, 11:03 PM)
Man I am encountering the same problem...

I was previously at 80.5kg, and now at 68kg after 4 months plus of workout and controlled diet. My daily diet:

Breakfast:
- Oat, cornflakes, milk

Lunch:
- Economy Rice with meat, vege

Dinner:
- 2 Apples or 2 slices of wholemeal bread or none

Apart from that, I maintained 45 mins of jogging, and regular routine of strength training (abt 45 mins ~ 1 hrs). The result from that is that I noticed my body weight drop, and reduced waistline. But I gain very limited amount of muscle...

I know it's hard to gain muscle while losing fat, but at least I hope I can maintained the current one, can someone give me some advice? I am in dilemma of choosing whether to continue losing fat or should increase my body mass... Now everytime I noticed a weight loss, i start to worried if I am really losing my fat or it's my muscle that shrinking...

By the way, how do you measure your body fat?
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With your kind of diet, you are going to lose muscles as well.

Try this.

Breakfast
5 whole eggs (fried, scrambled, half boiled or hard boiled)
1/2 cucumber
2 tablespoon coconut or red palm or olive oil

Lunch
200g Chicken or fish (weight without bone)
Vegetables
2 tablespoon coconut or red palm or olive oil

Dinner
same as lunch

2 hrs before workout
Protein shake

Post Workout
Protein shake.

You'll lose fats and gain muscles at the same time if you follow this diet.



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post Jul 9 2010, 09:28 PM

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For once dump away what you have learnt in schools or books. You can gain muscles and burn fats at the same time provided you follow the correct method of dieting. Regardless of whether you are a newbie, intermediate or an advanced bodybuilder, anyone can also do it. Forget about calorie counting. For a fat person, he/ she can eat as much as he/ she wants and still lose fats at the same time provided he/ she knows how to manipulate his/ her hormone response by playing with the diet (the macro nutrients). Once, this fat lady friend of mine who became very over weight in spite of eating a low fat diet. She had only 3 small low fat meals a day. By calorie counting, she should be losing weight but instead she gained. I taught her low carb, hi protein and hi fat diet. She ate 5 hi protein hi fat meals a day. She loved this diet because she could eat her forbidden foods and she ate more than what she usually did. She ate more fat and more calorie than before. Fat has 9 cal as opposed to carb and protein which have 4. Theoretically, she should be fatter. But she lost 30lbs in 1 year without exercising. She was a couch potato. Only calorie in no out.

The truth behind this are the hormones insulin and glucagon. Sugar raises insulin. Insulin converts sugar into bodyfat. Protein stimulates glucagon. Glucagon burns fats. Fat is neutral. It doesn’t affect both of the hormones. That's why you can’t get fat by eating lots of fats/ oil. Our body can’t store excess dietary fats and protein. They will be excreted out.

Calorie counting is flawed. If you try this diet with an open mind you’ll know what I said. But you need lots of discipline and patience to do this. You can bulk without gaining fat at the same time. I mean muscle bulk not fat bulk as most people are doing it.



Good luck.
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post Jul 10 2010, 06:33 AM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Jul 9 2010, 10:16 PM)
4rings: do u calculate how many grams of fat, protein and carbs u need to take in a day?
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Yup, you need to calculate your protein and fat intake. Fat should be at least 50% of the protein in gram. For instance, if you are eating 150g of protein, your fat should be at least 75g. As for carbs, it depends on your goal. If you are on AD, carbs should be 30g. Fat intake should be about 2.5 times more than protein.
If you are on low carbs, you have to experiment it with your body. If you gain fats, that indicates you are eating too much carbs.
Low carbs doesn't mean you have to go on keto. You can eat more carbs but make sure your carbs comes from leafy vegetables. Limit your starch intake maybe to 2-3 times per week. You won't go wrong this way.


Added on July 10, 2010, 6:36 am
QUOTE(LadyVanity @ Jul 10 2010, 12:24 AM)
keto diet FTW!!! biggrin.gif
ur right... im currently trying out this same diet... but im on a cyclic keto diet - hi fat hi protein for 5 days... and i will refeed or carb load for 30 hours on weekend. my first two weeks of the induction phase was shit tho. i love my sugar way too much. having to cut fruits and milk on a keto diet was the hardest thing of all for me... but i can have cheese and peanut butter so i cant complain. and theres the weekly carb up too. hehe.

if ur interested do google up Anabolic Diet by Dr. Mauro DiPasquale... or Dan Duchaine's BODYOPUS. i used to scoff and doubt these diets... but today im a convert. hee hee hee!
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Welcome to Hi Fat!!! BTW, are LadyVanity of Terry's forum?

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post Jul 10 2010, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(LadyVanity @ Jul 10 2010, 10:31 AM)
yup 4rings.... im the same LadyVanity. smile.gif i hop around alot and lurk in many forums, and thought id stick around abit here cos ive heard lots about this place frm darklight. hehe
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Nice to meet you here. I am the parrot-man. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 10 2010, 03:08 PM

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That was long time ago. I no longer have the physique like I used to have.
I am training parrot now. lol!
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post Jul 11 2010, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jul 10 2010, 10:29 PM)
Lol why the hell is your nick parrot man??!!
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I carry my parrot around.

This pic was taken yesterday at my mom in law's place in Muar.
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post Jul 11 2010, 08:46 PM

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She didn't bother to answer me. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 11 2010, 09:31 PM

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Yes, you are rite.


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