smartphone are all the same, when ppl saying laggy it's when they compare it with others brand hp like the iphone or the xperia or others, but do keep in mind all the hp out there have it's own pro/con as well as price tag, for me the 5800xm is the most customisable, affordable plus HUGE pile of user group where come into mods and improvement it will be the fastest compare to others hp

this is always the case, the new manual install Ovi Map won't and cannot overwrite the firmware included version. Refer to others although if we success to modify the latest Ovi Map install in mem card this will render the setting unable to be safe. The current only solution for this is to modify the Ovi Maps through cfw but sadly it still unable to overwrite all original firmware Ovi Maps as the installation is inside the .c00 core files where till date no solution for modification, if u really need the latest Ovi Map then u have to wait for the next firmware release which hopefully will reach us by July? (if we look at the history track on the 5800xm firmware release)

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Added on June 14, 2010, 1:31 pmwhen come to say of the flaws and hitches on the 5800xm, below is some weird things i saw with the latest v50 firmware:

1. sometimes the phone out of sudden use up lots of power (from normal ~3mA to abnormal ~30mA), a restart will resolve the issue, suspecting it's due to either the wifi/gps/bt/rf circuitry that hang and stay ON although inactive.

2. wifi connection established but data wont flow through, a restart will resolve the issue.

3. Orange tsunami saying "HS out of memory" (new issue after using the Orange Tsunami HS, very rare happen only once for about 2 weeks usage), a restart will resolve the issue.

4. Incoming call can't make the phone ring although the network showing ok, other side getting the phone is not reachable, a restart will resolve the issue (rare issue happen about 2 times since v50 update a few months back)

5. Nokia messaging app. won't auto reconnect to dedicated wifi connection after it disconnected, the nokia 5530 perform better on the auto email retrieve once the dedicated wifi ap discover within the range. Confirm it's app related bug.

6. MENU items sometimes not responding on click, this is mostly related to the KS setting (a lots of mods out there) regarding the "drag ability" setting. All back to personal preference, original KS setting make the MENU items sometime scroll out of edge especially on the lower and upper icons.

7. MENU screen scroll are more lag compare with other KS screen, non of the KS setting mods out there able to resolve this

Hope these info will be useful for someone as references

This post has been edited by sklchan: Jun 14 2010, 01:31 PM

u mean the maps? not check it yet as the last time check the maps still same

seem like it do have update, POI vise the nokia Maps won't be as much as MFM Maps, but what we really need is the roads update, if really want to point out the advantage of the nokia Maps it would be the internal road (example inside the factory, housing area/block) are more detail compare with MFM where this tiny road just doesn't exist.

This is why hoping for our MFM group to catch up to nokia Maps but sadly they got piss off by the nokia Maps provider last time

you won't regret for what you paid for
but sure you will need a long way learning how to harvest the most out from the phone

memory card corruption, connect through usb as mass storage then use the windows scandisk tool to scan the memory card, u will lost all those corrupted files (which will be rename and move into the file000 folder), if those currupted files not involving critical system files then u are good to go, but if it's involving system files then a full format on the mem card will resolve the issue.

do it first before go futher discussion

refer to the FP on thread title "What & How To I"... this will be the 1st step, and if it can resolve ur issue then u are good to go, but if it can't that's mean u have to go through the scandisk process to eliminate all corrupted files. 5800xm very easy to have corrupted file system within the mem card even the v50 firmware still seeing the issue, not sure the rootcause but for me i'm seldom use the mass storage method for transfer, i facing the curruption just after I fully update to v50 as some of my files (the whole folder gone empty) without reason

what I'm facing before might not same as yours but same rainbow strip line seeing and the phone reboot, the screen fade in from bright to dim and shrink into arainbow color line to the side. If u really wanna change your screen then it's up to you as i dont think this is hardware problem, although changing the screen is FOC within warranty period but i dont trust the servicing guy method will be better compare to factory made

but from what he saying is the "rainbow line" and not the dead pixel line, if it really due to the hardware then i'm sure it wont just happen "sometimes" it will be a permanent rainbow line at the screen

good point...

turion64, you can do this step for "extream fast" verification

not this lah, try to remove your mem card and reboot, then try and see the rainbow thing still happen or not without the mem card attach...

so? did u run through the test by removing your mem card? at least your proper troubleshooting and root cause the rainbow line thing get proper confirmation on hardware/software failure...

hehe, then if i were you, i won't be suspecting the hardware... every single rainbow line occurance whenever u have hanging/crashing apps. But for safe site and comfort of your heart (also warranty near end) u have to make your decision fast about changing the LCD

it all depend on where you refer to, at my area the Garmin already have proper route for the latest U-Turn or Traffic light but no where found inside the Ovi Maps, something the Ovi Maps do have is the detail route inside most of the housing area where in Garmin only showing the building blocks without road.

Garmin Mobile XT v6.00.10 released... go ask uncle google

fake no fake not sure but the GMobileXT.exe within the .sis installer is far more huge then the v5.00.60... i've try to browse maps so far not hanging... but the special character during POI search will still lock the screen within the key in screen

don't think it's an add on but more to a whole new .exe for the main application, not much different notice during yesterday trial run...
but the Browse Maps feature do improve for me, last time it sure will hang if I zoom out to East Malaysia Maps then zoom in back and scroll the maps, but this round it stay ok through out the experiment

at the beginning stage the 5800xm really need lots of your attention on all those miniminimo error...
but sooner later when u learn more on the device it actually out perform lots of smartphone out there...
what i can say is that the 5800xm is a "not so smart" smartphone at it initial state

eye on the N8 now...

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Added on July 13, 2010, 3:14 pmproud u still here

This post has been edited by sklchan: Jul 13 2010, 03:14 PM