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Games Monster Hunter Tri (Wii) (US/NTSC) v2, migrated to V3 :)

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TSjuwels
post Jul 1 2010, 06:52 PM

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you're not a passenger!!!! i feel every team needs a gunner woh, coz 4 people attacking one monster is just way too chaotic and needs restraint, and coordination. the coordination bit is kinda tricky coz we keep switching team mates. 3 melee 1 gunner is perfect.

plus there are times when having a gunner in the team is such a relief - giggi on the ceiling, them flying monsters that keeps hovering in the skies, etc etc. and the extra status hits are always awesome to have!

we will carry para shots okayyyy, we will carry woteva bullets you need!! i will stop calling you slacker for one hour, okay?

edit : plus ya, remember that giggi quest where it took forever coz there was only you and i? i actually really enjoyed that quest because i could spirit combo the HECK out of my ls without worrying about tripping anyone. THAT WAS SO GOOOODDDD. guilt free attacks biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by juwels: Jul 1 2010, 06:55 PM
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post Jul 1 2010, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 1 2010, 05:19 PM)
I feel like ranting a bit.

Having notched up more than 300 hours almost exclusively as a bowgunner, I've got a few complains.

1) Armor ratings for bowgunner suck. Defence boosting meals, armortalon and armor charm will max out a gunners armor at around 300. Which at the most means one and a half hits from 6 star monsters. Where is the logic in this? It is not as if bowgunners have huge damage output, hence need to be glass cannons. Bowgunners fight further away? Huh? Most ammo is most effective 3 rolls away from the beastie, which is hardly far enough to not get hit.

2) Damage. The multiplier for most ammo types are 10% to 15% of total bowgun attack, subject to a distance variable. That is like a max of 30 points of damage per shot (or 22 for G-rank). doh.gif And a bowgunner can carry limited quantities of ammo, which kinda makes it a must to combine some in the field. And why do elemental shots do fixed damage?

3) Ammo restrictions. So, a bowgunner is a support class eh Capcom? So WHY BLOODY WHY  vmad.gif  are we limited to carrying miniscule amounts of status inflicting ammo? A sns user has more armor, deals more damage and can para all thru the 45 minutes!
I tire of MHtri. I dislike running around like a bloody headless chicken during 6 star quests and diablo hunts cause one hit will probably kill me. I tire of having to constantly have max life just so that i won't faint. I tire of feeling like a passenger during these missions cause the rest seem to be doing the hard work.

I really like bowguns, but they could have been soo much better. I won't mind not being able to do much damage (capcom limits the amount of meaty juicy shots that one can carry anyways - come on 9 crag shots per level??? Lame  vmad.gif ) if i could carry like 99 para shots laugh.gif 

And having spent so much time bowgunning, I am not keen at all to start using other weapons. sad.gif
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Yes, it's so unfair i know(I'm a gunner on past MH too)
And it's cousin, bow, got unlimited ammos and coatings(similar to status shots to bowgun)
and you can move fast and cut tail with it...

But it's not like bowgun is useless or what, It's just that they are made so they can't(easily) surpass
melee. And look at the bright side, you can use many status shots and can heal/buff your teammates.

In MHFU though, using bowguns and bows is considered as cheats coz it's so easy to kill any monsters
with ranged weapons. That's why the damage is nerfed in MHTri(The previous damage formula is considered
too high)

Well, if you like being a gunner, then don't see it from how you deal damage to monsters but how you helped your
teammates with para shots and poison shots. You feel much better that way biggrin.gif


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post Jul 2 2010, 10:02 AM

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hehe. Maddy found a lovely sniping shot in area 7 of D.Island. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 2 2010, 10:17 AM

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just wanna ask a noob question

Shadow Binder (P) n (G)
wat the different for P n G??
i saw P is high attack,
but G is high affinity?? affinity is for wat??
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post Jul 2 2010, 10:22 AM

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Haha. I think I can help wz that now. Positive Affinity = Higher chance of causing more damage on attack. Negative means lesser.

Am I right ah Sifus? Correct me if I'm wrong woh.

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post Jul 2 2010, 10:35 AM

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i don't know how different extra raw power vs higher probability of critical hits - with a LS that seems to be positioned as status inflictor. if critical hits means better chance for paralysis ... then i guess G isn't a bad choice in this case.

but i know ppl like nyx and me chose weapon upgrades like these based on simple factors like colour of the handle sweat.gif

Yan Yue Dao (G) FTW ?!


QUOTE(kiukiu @ Jul 2 2010, 10:22 AM)
Haha. I think I can help wz that now. Positive Affinity = Higher chance of causing more damage on attack. Negative means lesser.

Am I right ah Sifus? Correct me if I'm wrong woh.
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post Jul 2 2010, 10:48 AM

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Each weapon has its own strengths and weaknesses.
I dont believe in the word "OVERPOWERED" or "NERF" - It's all a balancing act.

To me when a "NERF" or balance happens, I need to adjust my play style - I find ways to improve on what has been balanced.


Maddy, You helped me KO several monsters before with Crag shot tongue.gif
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post Jul 2 2010, 10:52 AM

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i wanna do dual uragaan hunts. everyone bring some poison s1 shots for me laugh.gif
i'm gonna be packing the giggi gun brows.gif
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post Jul 2 2010, 10:53 AM

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One thing to do is, 4 of us go bowguns tongue.gif and see how that works out?
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YEAH!!!! GIVE IT TO THEM FOR ME MADDY!!!. I HATE URA!!! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 2 2010, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(gaeryn @ Jul 2 2010, 10:53 AM)
One thing to do is, 4 of us go bowguns tongue.gif and see how that works out?
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either he gets tired and just sits there, or he doesn't get exhausted fast enough, rolls around and pancakes all of 4 of us.
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post Jul 2 2010, 10:59 AM

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so, is like more affinity = easy to get critical hit??

hmmm~~
wat bow gun was the best?
heavy so heavy == slow also...
medium...dunno which is the best.
i got play bow gun for fun b4,
but dunno which is the best, n hard to kill....so i stop using.
yesterday saw ....forget who using, very good.
thinking 2 use again.
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post Jul 2 2010, 11:04 AM

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*signs up for mozzy Ura burger event* rclxm9.gif

Ura Carapace is drop from Ura+ right ?


QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 2 2010, 10:52 AM)
i wanna do dual uragaan hunts. everyone bring some poison s1 shots for me laugh.gif
i'm gonna be packing the giggi gun brows.gif
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post Jul 2 2010, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 2 2010, 10:59 AM)
either he gets tired and just sits there, or he doesn't get exhausted fast enough, rolls around and pancakes all of 4 of us.
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Depends how many of us using Light/Med/Heavy bowguns tongue.gif

We could stand around Ura and shoot him in the form of a cross.

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TSjuwels
post Jul 2 2010, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(kiukiu @ Jul 2 2010, 10:02 AM)
hehe. Maddy found a lovely sniping shot in area 7 of D.Island. biggrin.gif
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yeah and what does he do? he shoots ME! vmad.gif

QUOTE(yangkuo @ Jul 2 2010, 10:35 AM)
but i know ppl like nyx and me chose weapon upgrades like these based on simple factors like colour of the handle  sweat.gif 
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that's true sweat.gif i didn't like the purple handle sweat.gif vain i know sweat.gif

QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 2 2010, 10:52 AM)
i wanna do dual uragaan hunts. everyone bring some poison s1 shots for me laugh.gif
i'm gonna be packing the giggi gun brows.gif
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am up for that. what time you coming in? am gonna login for some ala runs. i want to get webbings and skypiercers.

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post Jul 2 2010, 11:11 AM

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not until after lunch i suppose.
ala runs take sooooo much resources. tak nak sad.gif
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post Jul 2 2010, 11:12 AM

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hehe, i do ala runs until you login loh nod.gif
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post Jul 2 2010, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(terryforever @ Jul 2 2010, 10:59 AM)
hmmm~~
wat bow gun was the best?
heavy so heavy == slow also...
medium...dunno which is the best.

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depends on ur style of play actually.
Medium guns give more mobility, so its easier to jostle for position.
heavy guns usually come with shields, but most are 'folding'.
Folding medium guns are complete crap shit useless imho, cause they make you snail like, without the benefit that comes with heavies.
lights usually recoil too much to be of much use.


Added on July 2, 2010, 11:16 amare agnakators weak to poison?

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post Jul 2 2010, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 2 2010, 11:15 AM)
are agnakators weak to poison?
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not sure woh. but we can try. i made a poison lance for ura, imma use it later.
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post Jul 2 2010, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 2 2010, 11:15 AM)
depends on ur style of play actually.
Medium guns give more mobility, so its easier to jostle for position.
heavy guns usually come with shields, but most are 'folding'.
Folding medium guns are complete crap shit useless imho, cause they make you snail like, without the benefit that comes with heavies.
lights usually recoil too much to be of much use.


Added on July 2, 2010, 11:16 amare agnakators weak to poison?
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ic ic.
thx for ur info.
try to search more in mh3 wiki.
hehehe

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