not that bad, slightly slower and will be hunting if background is too bright

Precisely. Cant expect much due to the big ass glass. 1D series will help to boost the focusing a little.
85L and 70-200 price gap is kinda far away
Where did you bought yours from? Shashinki? if yes, send back to them to claim. I bought 4 sets of 4x Powerex 2700 from Shashinki and face the same problem. A year later they told me there's
one batch facing manufacture defect. I sent back and they replaced  4 brand new sets of Imedion for me. up for Shashinki's service!

walau the LR3 example on the adobe page ... dunno can believe or not one ... if really so good then can whack iso 3200 shooting already ...

... only one way to find out ... one of you guys faster upgrade and do test

@wingster just go shashinki and add it up la.

I asked the Canon shop at Pyramid two days ago and they are selling the kit for 10k as well.

should the street prices be cheaper?

awyongcarl: might be a good hint

5D3 would sound good, I can't imagine how the 3D would be like when it comes out.

It'd be revolutionary.

Noob question here----> DSLRs can shoot still images in 16:9 and 3:2 as well?

What a big bomb   here you go
http://www.mylensdb.com/canon-ef-85mm-f1-2l-ii-usm/

I just went to YL last weekend, and saw a few copies of the 85L for sale second hand. But I think those are the Mark I, not the newer Mark II version. List price is about RM5k according to the sticker YL put on those 85L's 

yeap, YL will never sell mark 2 at 5k.

awyong ur cosplayer shooting so good.

why did you buy the 70-200 ah?

just realize the unit is a year old. looks good, too bad not on my priority list.

My observations between my 5D n 1D-

When I 1st plugged in the 17-40 f4 to the 1D, I was like "where the heck did the bokeh disappear to?".  It really is that much less creamy. Had to get a 16-35 f2.8 to gain back the bokeh. The FF rendition is just so much creamier n smoother it's kinda unexplainable in words. So if u were to plug in ur current lenses to an FF, ur reaction is gonna be the opposite which will go like "phwoarrrrrrrr where the heck did all this bokeh come from?"

I dont understand what Canon puts in the 1D(mebe it's got some fairy dust inside ) though coz it's so damn sharp n the level of details in a puny 10mp is just mind blowing. It looks the same as my 5D at 21mp actually. BUT what u will see is the dreamy, creamy, smooth rendition when u go back to the FF. Ur love affair with the 70-200 f2.8L IS may just be reignited by putting it on a FF body. 

So I reckon u shud get an FF instead of an 85L. Coz f4 on the FF is already damn nice, f2.8 is almost too much and f1.4 is already over the nose bleed limit on a FF.   

Found a Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 non-VC with 1 year warranty for RM 1350. VC version will be RM 1750.

If only I had sufficient extra money for a new unit.

Phuiyohh awyongcarl going soppinggggggg oredi.

and how in the world did you "bought a wrong lens"?