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Skidd Chung
post Apr 5 2011, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Apr 5 2011, 10:54 AM)
What was the temperature of your processor and GPU when you PC crashed or at least after it crash?
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Temps were all ok the last I checked. Feels more like a HDD issue but I also checked for bad sectors and found none.

Updated all drivers and made sure my bios was latest. Still happen after that. Which prompted me to test my game files in Steam and found the 4 files were corrupted.

As a precaution, even switched my SATA ports to another spare one since data was corrupted. Reduced all graphic options to medium and un-ticked all the shadow and haze effects. Even set it up to play in windows mode at a lower resolution. So far played 2 ten minute sessions no problems yet. Fingers crossed. Really hope its not my hdd causing the problem. Gonna test it on my other PC soon, just to ensure it is not a client problem.



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post Apr 5 2011, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Apr 5 2011, 05:57 PM)
Temps were all ok the last I checked. Feels more like a HDD issue but I also checked for bad sectors and found none.

Updated all drivers and made sure my bios was latest. Still happen after that. Which prompted me to test my game files in Steam and found the 4 files were corrupted.

As a precaution, even switched my SATA ports to another spare one since data was corrupted. Reduced all graphic options to medium and un-ticked all the shadow and haze effects. Even set it up to play in windows mode at a lower resolution.  So far played 2 ten minute sessions no problems yet. Fingers crossed. Really hope its not my hdd causing the problem. Gonna test it on my other PC soon, just to ensure it is not a client problem.
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What's your PC specs?

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post Apr 5 2011, 06:54 PM

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Trust me 99% of people are having problems with TWSG2. Graphics, Crashes, BSOD, Multiplayer etc.

CA said on their forums that it will be fixed soon.
Expected fixes :

1. DX10 & 11 fix
2. Implementing Anti-Aliasing
3. Improved MP functionality ( it was pure shit a week ago, took me ages to level up to level 10)
4. Improved multi-threading performance
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post Apr 5 2011, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Unbreakable3131 @ Apr 5 2011, 06:54 PM)
Trust me 99% of people are having problems with TWSG2. Graphics, Crashes, BSOD, Multiplayer etc.

CA said on their forums that it will be fixed soon.
Expected fixes :

1. DX10 & 11 fix
2. Implementing Anti-Aliasing
3. Improved MP functionality ( it was pure shit a week ago, took me ages to level up to level 10)
4. Improved multi-threading performance
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please give me dual screen support :/
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post Apr 5 2011, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Unbreakable3131 @ Apr 5 2011, 06:54 PM)
Trust me 99% of people are having problems with TWSG2. Graphics, Crashes, BSOD, Multiplayer etc.

CA said on their forums that it will be fixed soon.
Expected fixes :

1. DX10 & 11 fix
2. Implementing Anti-Aliasing
3. Improved MP functionality ( it was pure shit a week ago, took me ages to level up to level 10)
4. Improved multi-threading performance
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Not trying to piss on Shogun's 2 parade but Modding tools and multiplayer campaign were coming "soon" too in Empire Total War...

On the other hand I am hearing "ok" feedbacks from the single player (even though apparently campaigns are pretty repetitive since factions are very very similar).
But I will wait for a sales for it, cheaper and at least patches and mods will be out
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post Apr 5 2011, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Apr 5 2011, 06:25 PM)
What's your PC specs?
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To share my problem.

Currently playing with;

Windows 7 64 bit (updated to SP1 after the 1st BSOD occured)
AMD Athlon II X4 640
Biostar A780LG (BIOS is the latest available, Realtek audio drivers also updated after 1st BSOD)
ATI HD 5750 (drivers updated from Steam to the latest for HD 5xxx series)
WD 500 GB
DDR 3 4GB RAM
22" Full HD monitor

I'm able to play at Ultra setting no problems, but kept on reducing the specs just to make sure it wasn't causing me the BSODs. Restarting upon getting a BSOD, my PC won't boot. Either saying the Windows register was corrupted or disk fail error. But after waiting for a while, it is able to boot. I'm able to go to BIOS no problem during such periods to check if it can detect all hardware properly, only 1 time it detected my SATA HDD as an IDE one. After cable in and out, it was detected properly.

Done the normal CHKDSK repair, register was checked and cleaned. Windows repair was done. AVG virus scanner found nothing. Defrag my HDD and now no fragmentations. Temp monitoring was done on one session which BSODed, and no spikes of fan speed or abnormal GPU/CPU temps. (using GPU-Z)

I still experienced BSOD while playing the game off and on, and was almost tempted to fresh install Win 7 and wipe my HDD clean for a fresh install of Shogun 2. But relented after the latest check found nothing. So I decided to open up my PC and and swap the SATA cable of me HDD to another port, to ensure it wasn't a case of defective SATA port. Tested the game files on Steam and replaced 4 corrupted game files. After all that, so far played 3 times 10-15 minutes each without problems, graphics options set to medium, no shadow and no haze effects.

That was so far my experience. Funny enough, I played the single player game for almost 40+ hours without any problems at Ultra settings. First BSOD happened after I played a Multiplayer game. After that either MP or SP can cause the BSOD, in the battle or on the campaign map. Can't say what actually triggers the BSOD, it can be while scrolling in the campaign map or during battle and at one time was when I hover my cursor over an enemy unit during battle. It's random as far as I know.

Really sianz because can't figure out what went wrong. rclxub.gif

If it happens again, I will probably fresh install Win 7, drivers, Shogun 2 and Steam to test. Will also verify game files after install from CD to ensure client files are in fact not corrupted. That's about as far as I can do before giving up on the game.

Their official forums are filled with people with BSOD problems upon start-up, but mine was after 40+ hours of gameplay. So can't compare their problems and mine. Only found 2 or 3 other people who has some sort of same problems as mine, they solved theirs by updating either the sound drivers or Vista update. I hope this doesn't happen to anyone else, got some other friends playing with no problems at all using old drivers and non-updated hardware which only frustrate me even further. doh.gif


Added on April 5, 2011, 8:18 pm
QUOTE(Unbreakable3131 @ Apr 5 2011, 06:54 PM)
Trust me 99% of people are having problems with TWSG2. Graphics, Crashes, BSOD, Multiplayer etc.

CA said on their forums that it will be fixed soon.
Expected fixes :

1. DX10 & 11 fix
2. Implementing Anti-Aliasing
3. Improved MP functionality ( it was pure shit a week ago, took me ages to level up to level 10)
4. Improved multi-threading performance
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It's too exaggerating to say 99% are having problems. All my friends are playing without problems so it's not a wide scale issue. But definitely something is off somewhere. Other than graphical bugs which are not game breaking, most of them are playing smoothly.

This post has been edited by Skidd Chung: Apr 5 2011, 08:21 PM
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post Apr 5 2011, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Apr 5 2011, 08:14 PM)
To share my problem.

Currently playing with;

Windows 7 64 bit (updated to SP1 after the 1st BSOD occured)
AMD Athlon II X4 640
Biostar A780LG (BIOS is the latest available, Realtek audio drivers also updated after 1st BSOD)
ATI HD 5750 (drivers updated from Steam to the latest for HD 5xxx series)
WD 500 GB
DDR 3 4GB RAM
22" Full HD monitor

I'm able to play at Ultra setting no problems, but kept on reducing the specs just to make sure it wasn't causing me the BSODs. Restarting upon getting a BSOD, my PC won't boot. Either saying the Windows register was corrupted or disk fail error. But after waiting for a while, it is able to boot. I'm able to go to BIOS no problem during such periods to check if it can detect all hardware properly, only 1 time it detected my SATA HDD as an IDE one. After cable in and out, it was detected properly.

Done the normal CHKDSK repair, register was checked and cleaned. Windows repair was done. AVG virus scanner found nothing. Defrag my HDD and now no fragmentations. Temp monitoring was done on one session which BSODed, and no spikes of fan speed or abnormal GPU/CPU temps. (using GPU-Z)

I still experienced BSOD while playing the game off and on, and was almost tempted to fresh install Win 7 and wipe my HDD clean for a fresh install of Shogun 2. But relented after the latest check found nothing. So I decided to open up my PC and and swap the SATA cable of me HDD to another port, to ensure it wasn't a case of defective SATA port. Tested the game files on Steam and replaced 4 corrupted game files. After all that, so far played 3 times 10-15 minutes each without problems, graphics options set to medium, no shadow and no haze effects.

That was so far my experience. Funny enough, I played the single player game for almost 40+ hours without any problems at Ultra settings. First BSOD happened after I played a Multiplayer game. After that either MP or SP can cause the BSOD, in the battle or on the campaign map. Can't say what actually triggers the BSOD, it can be while scrolling in the campaign map or during battle and at one time was when I hover my cursor over an enemy unit during battle. It's random as far as I know.

Really sianz because can't figure out what went wrong.  rclxub.gif

If it happens again, I will probably fresh install Win 7, drivers, Shogun 2 and Steam to test. Will also verify game files after install from CD to ensure client files are in fact not corrupted. That's about as far as I can do before giving up on the game.

Their official forums are filled with people with BSOD problems upon start-up, but mine was after 40+ hours of gameplay. So can't compare their problems and mine. Only found 2 or 3 other people who has some sort of same problems as mine, they solved theirs by updating either the sound drivers or Vista update. I hope this doesn't happen to anyone else, got some other friends playing with no problems at all using old drivers and non-updated hardware which only frustrate me even further.  doh.gif


Added on April 5, 2011, 8:18 pm

It's too exaggerating to say 99% are having problems. All my friends are playing without problems so it's not a wide scale issue. But definitely something is off somewhere. Other than graphical bugs which are not game breaking, most of them are playing smoothly.
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You played 40 hours straight?

I did encounter crashes for Total War series (ie. Empire Total War and Napoleon Total War) after playing more than 6 hours straight.

Skidd Chung
post Apr 5 2011, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Apr 5 2011, 09:13 PM)
You played 40 hours straight?

I did encounter crashes for Total War series (ie. Empire Total War and Napoleon Total War) after playing more than 6 hours straight.
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Haha not 40 hours straight, but total of 40+ hours of gameplay before I encounter my first problem. Was already at turn 80 in the single player campaign.
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post Apr 5 2011, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Apr 5 2011, 09:33 PM)
Haha not 40 hours straight, but total of 40+ hours of gameplay before I encounter my first problem. Was already at turn 80 in the single player campaign.
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Just try switching HDR off.

Because HDR is quite taxing for GPUs.
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post Apr 5 2011, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Apr 5 2011, 09:36 PM)
Just try switching HDR off.

Because HDR is quite taxing for GPUs.
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Yeah all nice effects turned off since I started troubleshooting. If confirm stable for next 2 weeks or after I finish my first campaign, then I'll slowly turn one by one on again to see which one is the problem. Gonna try Legendary campaign once all is sorted.
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Apr 5 2011, 09:33 PM)
Haha not 40 hours straight, but total of 40+ hours of gameplay before I encounter my first problem. Was already at turn 80 in the single player campaign.
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might be ur graphic card starting to have overheating. how old is ur computer? > 1.5 years should have BSOD. try playing without the casing. if it works, then add more fans, or replace ur heatsink thermalpaste.


Added on April 5, 2011, 9:50 pm
QUOTE(Unbreakable3131 @ Apr 5 2011, 06:54 PM)
Trust me 99% of people are having problems with TWSG2. Graphics, Crashes, BSOD, Multiplayer etc.

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am i the lucky 1%? in year 1619 now, never crash to desktop or BSOD once.

This post has been edited by bone_me: Apr 5 2011, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(bone_me @ Apr 5 2011, 09:48 PM)
might be ur graphic card starting to have overheating. how old is ur computer? > 1.5 years should have BSOD. try playing without the casing. if it works, then add more fans, or replace ur heatsink thermalpaste.


Added on April 5, 2011, 9:50 pm
am i the lucky 1%? in year 1619 now, never crash to desktop or BSOD once.
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PC is less than 5 months old. Although I really doubt it is over-heating. I'll try anything to get it to be stable, at least I know what is wrong.

Thanks for the tip. And thanks to kianweic as well. notworthy.gif
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i became shogun, everyone attack on me, except i got one allies which invested into.

Isn't the campaign over or do i need to capture 25 province?
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QUOTE(Plant @ Apr 5 2011, 10:05 PM)
i became shogun, everyone attack on me, except i got one allies which invested into.

Isn't the campaign over or do i need to capture 25 province?
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You need to fulfil your campaign objectives. Shogun is just one of them.
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QUOTE(frags @ Apr 5 2011, 10:42 PM)
You need to fulfil your campaign objectives. Shogun is just one of them.
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Gandalf, that's mean fending off over 15 clans! AGHHH, i don't mind they sent a whole stacks of army since i got 3 stack already, but their dam Ninja, Secret Police, Monk always disturb my building, repair is too expensive! Somemore Ai is smart, guerrilla tactic, hit my resources and let me cripple! I already control the sea but i dunno they got bigger naval hiding in the west side of the map. uhhhh*headache*
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wat u face is nothing...try legendary mode...had been playing 3 days,cant win at all.now i m thinking of building 6 stacks of armies to march towards kyoto.

i m plying the MORI clan.
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post Apr 6 2011, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Apr 5 2011, 08:14 PM)
To share my problem.

Currently playing with;

Windows 7 64 bit (updated to SP1 after the 1st BSOD occured)
AMD Athlon II X4 640
Biostar A780LG (BIOS is the latest available, Realtek audio drivers also updated after 1st BSOD)
ATI HD 5750 (drivers updated from Steam to the latest for HD 5xxx series)
WD 500 GB
DDR 3 4GB RAM
22" Full HD monitor

I'm able to play at Ultra setting no problems, but kept on reducing the specs just to make sure it wasn't causing me the BSODs. Restarting upon getting a BSOD, my PC won't boot. Either saying the Windows register was corrupted or disk fail error. But after waiting for a while, it is able to boot. I'm able to go to BIOS no problem during such periods to check if it can detect all hardware properly, only 1 time it detected my SATA HDD as an IDE one. After cable in and out, it was detected properly.

Done the normal CHKDSK repair, register was checked and cleaned. Windows repair was done. AVG virus scanner found nothing. Defrag my HDD and now no fragmentations. Temp monitoring was done on one session which BSODed, and no spikes of fan speed or abnormal GPU/CPU temps. (using GPU-Z)

I still experienced BSOD while playing the game off and on, and was almost tempted to fresh install Win 7 and wipe my HDD clean for a fresh install of Shogun 2. But relented after the latest check found nothing. So I decided to open up my PC and and swap the SATA cable of me HDD to another port, to ensure it wasn't a case of defective SATA port. Tested the game files on Steam and replaced 4 corrupted game files. After all that, so far played 3 times 10-15 minutes each without problems, graphics options set to medium, no shadow and no haze effects.

That was so far my experience. Funny enough, I played the single player game for almost 40+ hours without any problems at Ultra settings. First BSOD happened after I played a Multiplayer game. After that either MP or SP can cause the BSOD, in the battle or on the campaign map. Can't say what actually triggers the BSOD, it can be while scrolling in the campaign map or during battle and at one time was when I hover my cursor over an enemy unit during battle. It's random as far as I know.

Really sianz because can't figure out what went wrong.  rclxub.gif

If it happens again, I will probably fresh install Win 7, drivers, Shogun 2 and Steam to test. Will also verify game files after install from CD to ensure client files are in fact not corrupted. That's about as far as I can do before giving up on the game.

Their official forums are filled with people with BSOD problems upon start-up, but mine was after 40+ hours of gameplay. So can't compare their problems and mine. Only found 2 or 3 other people who has some sort of same problems as mine, they solved theirs by updating either the sound drivers or Vista update. I hope this doesn't happen to anyone else, got some other friends playing with no problems at all using old drivers and non-updated hardware which only frustrate me even further.  doh.gif


Added on April 5, 2011, 8:18 pm

It's too exaggerating to say 99% are having problems. All my friends are playing without problems so it's not a wide scale issue. But definitely something is off somewhere. Other than graphical bugs which are not game breaking, most of them are playing smoothly.
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Ha! Exagerating my bump! My clan and i have been testing the game ever since it was released. Sp is okay, maybe occasional crashes but when i say the game is broken, thd end game content is full of bs. So god damn many bugs in mp : 3v3 in game auto tab for everyone, tab out from in game can't tab back in whole comp freezes, auto match gets stuck n requires full restart/ip refresh, onlime avatar got deleted. These are NOT localized problems, amongst testing the game we used a variety of computers and we tested in game connectivity.

Also, if u and your friends are playing on the msia server, ofc u have no problem! Because noone plays on msia serv. All active competitive players are playing on uk london n us LA servers. CA cant even handle 100players on their servers, without having bugs after bugs thrown at us.
experience from a 250hr on shogun 2.Also, if u unistall shogun all ur retainers everythung will be gone, someone found out the hard way. Apparently, part of yr players profile is stored locally and not in steam.

This post has been edited by Unbreakable3131: Apr 6 2011, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(Unbreakable3131 @ Apr 5 2011, 06:54 PM)
Trust me 99% of people are having problems with TWSG2. Graphics, Crashes, BSOD, Multiplayer etc.

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If you are speaking of SP then I am also one of the 1%, I (and a few of my own friends) am doing it on Ultra settings and even repeatedly 4-5 hours are not crashing anything yet (*touch wood*).

If you are speaking of MP then I wish good luck to you and the guys at CA. I had thought patch 1.1 is supposed to fix the MP stuff. Haven't give my MP a go yet, SP alone is a whole lot of fun by itself.
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Grrrr all the sudden my steam decided to download the whole 14GB Shogun 2 for me.

I already installed with DVD and patched it, then now it decided to download the whole file...

Is there a patch 14GB? =P

I read about it in the previous post it is a steam bug?

Oh man, 14GB online download means RM15 x 14GB = RM210 to redownload the whole game without my notice. I am using YES 4G.

What actually happened?
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post Apr 6 2011, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Alviano @ Apr 6 2011, 10:59 PM)
Grrrr all the sudden my steam decided to download the whole 14GB Shogun 2 for me.

I already installed with DVD and patched it, then now it decided to download the whole file...

Is there a patch 14GB? =P

I read about it in the previous post it is a steam bug?

Oh man, 14GB online download means RM15 x 14GB = RM210 to redownload the whole game without my notice.  I am using YES 4G.

What actually happened?
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It is a bug, Steam does that sometimes.

I suggest getting someone's backup copy and restore their backup.

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