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Ramjade
post Nov 26 2016, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 26 2016, 04:03 PM)
i just  put Saving/investment.

I ask the officer what people normally write.. in their forms.

He say they normally write:

For rental collection; to pay for goods; To buy things..

For Subang Jaya branch.. He will send documents every Friday. Cut off time will be Thursday.
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Which subang jaya branch do you go to?
Ramjade
post Jan 6 2017, 09:27 AM

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Hansel, prince_mk ,managed to open my DBS MCA at Marina Bay biggrin.gif rclxm9.gif icon_idea.gif
Thank you sifu notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Considering I am currently unemployed, it's a miracle they let me open. blink.gif

Here's how I manage to open. Requirement by DBS to open account with them
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For personal account, you are only require to submit the following documents:

1) Passport and IC (for Malaysian Citizens)
2) Proof of billing
3) Documents justifying request for account opening.


No 3 was problematic. I decided to go the way of opening a Philips account first. Once I opened that, I had a copy of application proof which I can give to the bank. They were problematic as well and refuse to open without a Singapore bank account. But somehow they told me we will open for you and hang on to your application unless you can provide us the Singapore bank account no. They did give me a proof of application. This was done at Toa Payoh branch.

Headed over to Marina Bay. Told them want to open Vickers and MCA. Apparently one cannot open Vickers without a bank account. So had to deal with MCA first.

Note:
Now MCA have foreign charges regardless when you open starting next monday. All MCA have free first 5 years annual fee waiver. Then after the 5 years, you are required to pay SGD12 for another 5 years = SGD2.40/year.


Ramjade
post Jan 7 2017, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 7 2017, 07:07 PM)
You have to have a minimum $3000 balance in the account at all times.
You have to prove to them on what grounds you are opening an account for. In other words, a good reason would be for Salary Bank in (Sg work permit) or bills to pay (address in Singapore) or investment purposes (like mentioned SGX-CDP account). If not, most banks will not allow account opening.
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Agreed. That's why I showed them my Philips application with chop from Philips branch. Then I told them I want to open Vickers.
Ramjade
post Jan 8 2017, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(Ichitech @ Jan 7 2017, 11:57 PM)
Hi all,
First time on this thread and read thru the last 10 pages of the forum as some of them were quite old (<2013) which i presume outdated.  Quick question, can i
1) Open a SG bank account (Prefer  bank with Malaysia account too, e.g. OCBC, MAYBANK, CIMB etc) ?
2) If (1) is yes, what is the requirement ?
- Can i apply online ? I do not wish to fly to Singapore just to open an account
- Prefer bank with free annual fee as i don't think i will use the facility (ATM, Debit card etc) only use Internet Banking
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Opening account will require you to do it face or face unless you are loaded. Just take 2 days off. I use 2 days. Took night train. Came back the following day night train and reach KL in the morning (before 7).
1. Yes. But it's getting harder. Even maybank have tighten. Never hear any news from them. Will give them a call on Monday. sad.gif Standard Chartered, HSBC, Must be priority banking with them and priority customer with Singapore side as well. For Standard Chartered, you still have to go down as Malaysia will book appointment for you.

2. Usually banks in Singapore charge a fall below fees. Not annual fees like Malaysia. Requirement usually work permit/student visa from Singapore. That's the major road block. Requirement for HSBC and Standard Chartered = pockets must be loaded.
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post Jan 8 2017, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 8 2017, 03:41 AM)
With the introduction of 1.5% charged against the foreign currency amt notes being deposited into or withdrawn from the DBS MCA, things are not as attractive as before. We must go to the other banks which provide free service for currency notes being dep and withdrawn.
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OCBC & UOB have MCA. But they need min SGD5k or else there's a fall below fees. The question is whether you can open or not? hmm.gif Btw, do you keep the money below that amount and pay the penalty or just keep that amount there?

QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 8 2017, 03:46 AM)
THANKS TO THE 1MDB EVENT !!!!!

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Agreed. sad.gif

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post Jan 8 2017, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 8 2017, 03:41 AM)
With the introduction of 1.5% charged against the foreign currency amt notes being deposited into or withdrawn from the DBS MCA, things are not as attractive as before. We must go to the other banks which provide free service for currency notes being dep and withdrawn.
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Actually Hansel, we don't need other banks. Why? One can use Interactive Broker and exchange SGD > USD/ASX/HKD online and real time (people who have used that site claims their rates are better than money changer rates.)

Eg.
1. Deposit SGD into MCA > transfer money to IB in SGD (they accept SGD) > convert using IB exchange > buy Manulife US REITS from IB (they have access to SGX to).

2. Deposit SGD into MCA > transfer money to IB in SGD (they accept SGD) > convert using IB exchange > buy stocks from ASX.

Is this doable? But IB charges USD10/month unless you are an active trader. sad.gif

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post Jan 8 2017, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 8 2017, 09:04 AM)
It rarely falls below in the last two years, because I've been converting out my RM into foreign currencies.

Edited : what do yo know abt UOB and OCBC being able to accept foreign currency notes over the counter ?
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I think it would be doable since my uncle told me he went SIngapore, managed to exchange old currency notes with banks in Singapore for new currency. He didn't mention which currency. Another alternative is as below. V


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 8 2017, 08:54 AM)
Actually Hansel, we don't need other banks. Why? One can use Interactive Broker and exchange SGD > USD/ASX/HKD online and real time (people who have used that site claims their rates are better than money changer rates.)

Eg.
1. Deposit SGD into MCA > transfer money to IB in SGD (they accept SGD) > convert using IB exchange > buy Manulife US REITS from IB (they have access to SGX to).

2. Deposit SGD into MCA > transfer money to IB in SGD (they accept SGD) > convert using IB exchange > buy stocks from ASX.

Is this doable? But IB charges USD10/month unless you are an active trader.  sad.gif
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To prevent IB from charging us the USD10, can use IB to buy S-REITS provided that the commission they earned is enough to offset the USD10/month. But I am not sure about whether the stocks will be under custodian account or under our own account.
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post Jan 8 2017, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 8 2017, 03:51 PM)
I have to agree on that. There was once a Business Manager told me directly that they are not interested in opening an account for you if you are just planning to open an account with a few hundred dollar balance so that you can top up your Netts card and buy things online.  doh.gif  Sinkis are very 'direct' people.
Not really lar bro. The Singapore government started implementing anti money laundering laws quite some time ago. Not really because of 1MDB. Anyway, Singapore is favorite hotspot for the Indonesian Chinese business people. They were depositing so much money in Singapore that the Indonesian government had to plead them to bring their money back to Indonesia by giving them clemency on tax evasion and money laundering. laugh.gif
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I experienced that. I asked about account inactivity and the person attending to me ask me back this question, "For what you want to open account and keep it inactive?' I was shakehead.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 8 2017, 03:53 PM)
Its very different now. First thing they ask you if you want to open an account now is

1) Work Permit / Employment Pass

2) Singapore Residence Address.
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Correction. They ask the following in order
1) Are you a Singaporean?
2) Are you working here?

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post Jan 9 2017, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 9 2017, 07:39 AM)
Bro,.. for IB, if you are able to bank in only SGD, to me,.. this is not good enough. I would prefer to have an account that can accept foreign currency notes in different currencies.

I would be quite positive that IB provides a custodian acct., and no CDP holding.

My questions for UOB and OCBC is more like : how much do they charge for OTC cash banking-in and withdrawal ?
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Bro, they offer instant real time exchange. So if you want USD, you can just exchange SGD > USD. IF you need SGD, just change over. No point hopping from one bank to another. Why? I believed this is just a sign of early things to come. If one bank can implement chanrges (DBS), what makes you think the other 2 won't follow? hmm.gif

Banks likes free money. So if they can charge customer with charges, I believed they will especially if their competitor start charging.

Fees for
UOB Global Currency Account
OCBC Global Currency Account

OCBC 1% for withdrawal and deposit.
UOB not sure.

More info:
https://forum.singaporeexpats.com/viewtopic.php?t=94836

Check out this reply by stiwi
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1. Standard Chartered Bank, you need to have World Partner status at least which according to official guidelines require S$50,000 or equivalent but at the branch I was told S$20k only. You have to apply for this status at the branch and it takes few days to process. Once processed, there is no need to maintain this amount, as they don't review it automatically. Cash FCY deposits / withdrawals are free of charge over the counter.


May not be relevant anymore as it's 2013. Now's 2017.

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post Jan 9 2017, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 9 2017, 08:31 AM)
Bro,.. it's not abt exchanging,.. Exchanging will cause us to incur 'spread expense'.. I would prefer 'no-charge' direct bank-in in the currency that I preferred, hence, I control the spread... don't know if you understand or not. Hmm,... it's a bit hard to illustrate via a forum like this,... we seem to be talking in opposite directions. ...

Yes, banks will charge fees, but there are one or two banks now which are thinking of opening their doors to direct bank-in of notes without charges. They have not confirmed yet. Yes, I agree,...we try not to hop. But if we have limited capabilities in opening accounts, we have to hop. The moment we can open in one bank, then,...

UOB is expensive,... OCBC is expensive,...
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I understand about the spread. But if it can give better rates than Moneychanger (in SG/MY), it won't be much of a problem. Try asking AVFAN and rjb123 regarding the exchange rate. Is it worth it or not or is it better to direct bank in.

Do share with us what bank after you have tested. smile.gif

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QUOTE(cjlio1 @ Jan 9 2017, 10:06 AM)
becareful Singky banks (unsure about Malaysian banks) has this policy if your account is dormant within a few months (you need to read the application form how many exactly) it will start to charge you banking fees and deduct direct from your account until almost zero then by law it will close the account and surrender it to the govt
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12 months for DBS and requires debiting to count as an activity. Asked their customer service. If you have 2 account, very simple. Transfer from one account to another and back to "trick the bank" into thinking it's active.

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post Jan 9 2017, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(activexxx @ Jan 9 2017, 10:13 AM)
what is the interest rate for a normal savings account in DBS bank? Also the FD rates?
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Practically 0% (SA is 0.05% FD 12 months = 0.35%) Welcome to the world of singapore where interest is freaking low mad.gif vmad.gif
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post Jan 10 2017, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 10 2017, 11:58 AM)
Tq bro,.. I think no need to ask,... surely can't accept foreign notes,...
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Actually according to his way, he fund his IB account using SGD. Then switch over the currency on IB platform to buy ETF from LSE.
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post Jan 11 2017, 10:31 AM

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prince_mk, Hansel, I have asked Merchant Trade, they say it will take 1 working days to transfer the money over to SG. Max RM50k/day/person. However to get around that limit, can ask family member to transfer RM50k/person. So if got 1 wife, 2 kids, can transfer max RM200k/day thumbup.gif

Bad news is they don't accept SGD. They only accept RM. Each transfer cost RM22. Cheaper than banks. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeyz @ Jan 11 2017, 07:32 PM)
How about maybank SG? If we have maybank account in Malaysia we can open maybank SG and link both account into our maybank2u and then we can have multiple currencies in one profile . Need to ask how much they charge for transferring RM to SGD from maybank MY to maybank SG.
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For me Maybank MY no reply until now. Already 1 month +. No call nothing, no package.

Since I everyday I wait, chances of opening are becoming slimmer. Decide to head down myself.
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post Jan 12 2017, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeyz @ Jan 12 2017, 06:19 AM)
I find Maybank service is not as great as before already after they had the retrenchment and branches closed down.
Yeah do update us . Thanks
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I already open my account with DBS bank.
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post Jan 12 2017, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 12 2017, 09:19 AM)
Forget Tiger bank. We try not to have anything to do with Malaysia at the moment. laugh.gif

DBS didnt ask you for employment pass? tongue.gif
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Nope. Because I told them I am a fresh graduate. sweat.gif
Banks in other country are run separably compare to the ones in Malaysia. Anyway, managed to open a CIMB account online (after getting DBS) so that I can make my DBS account "active" by transferring funds from CIMB > DBS > CIMB with my limited funds.

Will try and see if can get Standard Chartered/Maybank in my next trip. If can, will close my CIMB laugh.gif

Reason: CIMB only 2 branches doh.gif

But looking at exchange rate, CIMB TT rates are better than Maybank.

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post Jan 12 2017, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 12 2017, 10:46 AM)
Yes for CIMB, you only need to open an account online and transfer some funds over (FAST transfer) from another Singaporean bank to enable account opening.

When you told them you are a fresh graduate, dint they ask you for your student visa etc?
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I gave them my national competency exam results. They actually never look at it at all.
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post Jan 12 2017, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 12 2017, 11:16 AM)
No wonder la.. tongue.gif
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I told them I am just graduated. So not working yet. So no tax no. SO they put my occupation as graduate. But the worker said not working means not working. No need to say graduate or what. ranting.gif
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 12 2017, 11:41 AM)
Bro Ramjade,... you studied in Sgp,... you should not have prbs at all,..... mad.gif  mad.gif Shouldn't even be talking here on opening of bank accounts in Sgp,... just tell then you graduated from there,...
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I wished I studied in Singapore. If I studied there, definitely won't be problem to open. Unfortunately I don't.

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