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wunpeng
post Aug 7 2012, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 7 2012, 05:05 PM)
wait. in which part that torco mentioned that their motor oils are suitable for diesel engine? also, regardless of motor oil compatible with diesel engines, i dont think one should assume that this works vice versa? just the additive contents and detergent contents is different enough to warrant a valid justification that it should not be suitable.

also, no "hard feelings".
and yes, none at all. i won't be pouring diesel engine oils into my car, thanks smile.gif
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So do I... Since on my learning, Diesel engine need TBN 6-8, because diesel content sulfer compare to Petrol... Diesel engine oil content enough additive TBN to balance the Sulfer in diesel oil but Petrol noneed it... If use Diesel engine oil in Petrol Engine, you will get more useless TBN and I think it will harm the Petrol Engine... Correct me if I am wrong.
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post Aug 8 2012, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(pumpman @ Aug 7 2012, 06:32 PM)
So bro wunpeng, your magna M1 S710 engine oil that you are using having a TBN 9,is it a diesel engine oil? rclxub.gif 

http://static.lowyat.net/uploads/attach-98...-1343728215.jpg, best part is under the performance column , there is this mercedes 228.1 , please open this link http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/228.1_en.html.. they are all diesel engine oil

amsoil xl http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/xlo.aspx , also TBN 9, so it must be a diesel motor oil too??

Caltex Havoline 10w-40 https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/PDSDeta...1&docFormat=PDF, having TBN 10.9...also hdeo??

Torco SR-1  5W-40 TBN 7.5 http://www.torcousa.com/technology/TDS_SR-1%20MotorOil.pdf


Added on August 7, 2012, 6:42 pmi am using on my 2006 camry and 2009 mitsu, my friends use it on panamera and wrx..
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I think it is because it is a Multigrade Engine oil, so it need TBN content. Correct me if I am wrong.
wunpeng
post Aug 8 2012, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(pumpman @ Aug 8 2012, 05:53 PM)
I got a friend family business using a lot of lorry, especially diesel one, they are using a engine oil for so many years, then don't know TBN is needed in the engine oil and they also don't know what is TBN. They got a lot of engine blow off this year... When they test off the oil they use then only know the reason. Now they stop to use the oil they use before. They switch to another brand of oil which TBN included, they directly become distributer for the oil because they can use 3000L of oil within one month.
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post Aug 9 2012, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Aug 9 2012, 10:53 AM)
most 10/30 oils are mineral based ke ? ya meh ?
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Actually a lot of 10W30 was in SEMI based. You can use it if you are not rev up so high RPM for your car. Especially not more than 4.5K RPM.
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post Aug 9 2012, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Aug 9 2012, 04:02 PM)
? y cannot ?
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For a sincere question, you want your car last longer or just a few years? Actually if your car got engine oil, no matter you change it or not, your car still can move, just the life of the car engine can last longer or short. If you like to REV, choose higher Viscosity engine oil is help to protect your engine, lower viscosity is for economic use because it is thin and light, your engine can run very easier compare to higher viscosity engine oil.
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post Aug 10 2012, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Aug 10 2012, 11:36 AM)
Do you know that a Supra's recommended engine oil is xw-30?
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I don't know about that... Sorry about that... Since if you found the oil suitable for the car, you can go ahead with it... Since Oil is just phamacy for the car, anywhere still need to follow what the foreman(Doctor) Said...

Go back to the point again, every oil content if really same as the bottle written, everything is fine...

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post Aug 11 2012, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(joshuaa85 @ Aug 10 2012, 04:46 PM)
not really 10W30 must semi syn or mineral
but with 5W and lower, should be semi syn and fullly syn

i can make 10W30 fully syn. how abt market acceptance ?
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You are engine oil manufacturer?
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post Aug 11 2012, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 11 2012, 11:32 AM)
Distilled water is cleaner than tap water for bathing. But do you need distill water for bathing?

Synthetic is better than mineral to protect engines. But do you need Synthetic for use in Proton?

Same logic.

In all my years and my friend's year of driving turbo diesel which are harsher on engine oil then petrol engine, never once do we have engine oil related problem with using Mineral. The longest we kept our engine were 1/2 million kilometer before selling off and even then, no problem
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Actually everything is based on their spending power... They use better oil to protect their engine are their choice... Same thing that you wearing branded clothes and normal chothes... Better quality is giving better protection, This is always customer thinking...

Use Synthetic for Diesel engine is ok too, problem is that's too much expensive compare to Petrol Engine, since they use more oil compare to diesel engine... If you use the transport for working, you need to service more compare to others, you will think about cheaper and also quality oil to protect your engine...

I already found out mine, how about you?
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post Aug 17 2012, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(sarjantulang @ Aug 17 2012, 09:27 AM)
as salam,
guys guys....come on....you forgot what i mention before....
it is depend from which company are the additive come from....different additive manufacturer will give you different formula base on what their experience and reputation...

i know 1 very good company: LUBRIZOL....

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LUBRIZOL is quite common and most of the oil manufacture is using this company's additive... The Oil I am using now also using a lot of additive from LUBRIZOL.
wunpeng
post Aug 17 2012, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(pumpman @ Aug 17 2012, 03:17 PM)
Infenium and afton also..
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Ya, you are right....
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post Aug 23 2012, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(joshuaa85 @ Aug 23 2012, 01:36 PM)
why ask such question ?
btw i am lubricant industry.
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I ask this question because you say that you can make it... If you are not the manufacturer, how did you make it?
wunpeng
post Aug 23 2012, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(joshuaa85 @ Aug 23 2012, 01:45 PM)
0W30 is not for high performance car la bro, on NA is most best.
high performance like force induction can't use start with 0W oil.


Added on August 23, 2012, 1:47 pm
haha. all belong to my boss.. XD.. 10W30 nowdays categorized as semi or mineral .. if sum1 come up 10W30 FS, he's the pioneer.
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Since you are Engine Oil Manufacturer, now a days, all the engine oil grade already begin with SM/SN grade, Seldom to find out SL or older grade of oil, how to solve the flat tappet cam design engine? Since this kind of engine need more ZDDP additive in the engine oil to protect the CAM but SM/SN Grade engine is less ZDDP additive base on environment friendly purpose. Or this kind of engine still can use SM/SN grade engine oil, just don't LEV too much or don't make the RPM higher than 5K?
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post Aug 23 2012, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(joshuaa85 @ Aug 23 2012, 02:23 PM)
that's my concern too. where by most malaysia vehicle is japanese ( flat teppet ) and EU ( roller instead )

under SM specification, maximum allowed ZDDP is 800 ppm, well to SN grade is reduced to 400 ppm.

nowdays most of japanese car maker still fine with 400 ppm content of ZDDP.

well maybe oil manufacturer added other additive which similiar criteria with ZDDP we might don't know

i don't know why goes for SN instead of SM or SL is more than enough. since malaysia doesn't have any emission regulation standard ( not even fitted with catalytic converter ? then go for SN for wat ? )

maybe i will start selling kind of ZDDP additive in near future.. XD. the kind word you replied to me is a bit of humiliating.
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Due to market requirement I think. That's why manufacturer need to stick to the market, else people will ask that why your oil so out date and so on... No choice lah... Change to new car then stick to the new grade engine oil lor...
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post Aug 23 2012, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(joshuaa85 @ Aug 23 2012, 02:45 PM)
this is also one of marketing strategy in malaysia, or else you can't make any business.
i also can say that our malaysian is not so interesting to get more knowledge about engine oil

new japan car also flat teppet. but there is some other additive to reduce the valvetrain wear. of course ZDDP for flat teppet is essential. but API is more on EU. not for asian. but it's well known globally. sweat.gif

mine still stick on SM. no SN for me.
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Totally agree on you...

This post has been edited by wunpeng: Aug 23 2012, 02:48 PM
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post Aug 23 2012, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(joshuaa85 @ Aug 23 2012, 05:17 PM)
brader, we are talking about malaysia market XD. foreign brand of course got lah ..

ACEA also one of the engine oil standard. but most popular is API.

but if u ask ACEA or ILSAC .. perhaps foreman also don't know ...


Added on August 23, 2012, 5:23 pm
in our current lubricant technology, we still unable to produce 0W50 or 0W60 for turbo charged cars.

hence, we call for 5W50 or 10W60 would be the best.

0W50 maybe have already. damn expensive. reason why use 50 or 60 .. of course to withstand high temp as well as high load.
in malaysia . probably CF grade is more than enough due to superb high sulfur content in diesel.
those are higher than CF is just bullshit at all. and waste your money only.
the obsession is higher the grade, is the BEST. WTF

somehow DH-1 is better, if we compare to API CX grade.
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In Malaysia, we are able to produce 0W50, 0W60, the problem is who are going to buy that? If the market not need it so much, why manufacturer still produce and sell it? Everything produce out is base on the market requirement.. Since a lot of Malaysian only know that Premiun Mineral, SEMI and Fully Synth, I think they also don't know what is viscosity, some people don't even know what oil they are using... as long as the car not jam in the halfway is ok already.
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post Aug 24 2012, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(joshuaa85 @ Aug 24 2012, 03:05 PM)
all the oil manufacturer always VIIs usage as low as possible.. ur kinda rich .. rclxms.gif
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Brother, he is not staying in Malaysia, he might not know how's our environment and how's our financial.....
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post Aug 24 2012, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(joshuaa85 @ Aug 24 2012, 03:38 PM)
not say so, if poor man only can afford kancil. then why kancil seem lesser and lesser nowdays XD nod.gif
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I think Kancil seem lesser and lesser now days is also because of the maintenance problem, parts spoil need to repair, replace, they even have money to repair but no time to wait, they prefer to buy new cars and do installment again on the new car.... some people also think that, since car will spoil one day, why service so much for it, buy a new one lah.... Only those people who love their car will only do well maintain for their car..

so at here, I think only those people who loves their car will leave some comment and discuss here... non you?

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post Aug 26 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Aug 25 2012, 11:27 PM)
Hi. I am newbie here lol. I want to ask is it Honda Manual Car Gearbox using engine oil ?
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Gearbox is using Gear Oil, not using Engine oil, normally Manual Gearbox using Grade 85W90. And change every 40000KM mileage.
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post Aug 26 2012, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 26 2012, 05:02 PM)
Not really. Some car uses engine oil in their gear. So best to check your car manual to confirm what oil to use.
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Engine oil really can be use in Gear Box? I think the Viscosity is too thin for a gear box, and the additive which use to protect the gear box is not include in the engine oil... since those additive will make a lot of carbon while meet hot environment.... Better ask foremen regarding this.. Of course if the car manual book written that engine allow to be use, should be not a problem then.

This post has been edited by wunpeng: Aug 26 2012, 08:02 PM
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post Aug 28 2012, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 28 2012, 12:34 PM)
Yes, they use different Base Oil. As for the type of additives, they are more or less the same just that some better brand may have better or more than lousy brand.
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I think most of them are follow the API grade to produce the EO, just some of the brand you will feel better is because of their attitude and skill to produce the EO..... And advertisement also will make you feel better in some times.... Of course QC on the quality of the oil is also very important.. Still the last point, no matter what brand you use, if the content is the original of the brand, it will not harm your engine... of course you have to choose the right spec for your car.

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