Just to confirm tht FICD is only being used in carburettor vehicles?

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Added on July 27, 2010, 8:30 amAlvin, I hv an assumption what if the idle speed is already low but with the aircond comppressor jammed up due to lack of compressor oil?

This post has been edited by J1@l_ l_l l\l: Jul 27 2010, 08:30 AM

FICD is used on cars with EFI only. But this thread here http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/car...cnf40-4g15.html shows that carbs can also use.

I was told that compressor lube is in the gas that is circulated within the system.

This post has been edited by gregy: Aug 1 2010, 01:16 AM

So, U'd really confirm tht FICD can be installed only in fuel injected engines?

As for the compressor oil, yes, it is being circulated together with the refigerant. Tht was vat my assumption is.

Did you bother to visit the ZTH thread I referenced? I said it was intended to be used on EFIs, but in that thread someone successfully hooked it up to his carbie. Still, what's it to you anyway? You running a carb or EFI?

that toyota ficd is meant for fuel injection engines... as for carburetor engines, they have their own non-adjustable ficd which hooks up to another idle load compensator (something round look like ufo) which pushes the actuator down to control the carburetor idling...

means for fuel injection, u jz need an adjustable ficd.... for carburetor, u need non-adjustable ficd and that ufo thing (idle load compensator) to work...

could it be your aircond belt too tight? hmmm

I didn't visit the link posted but will go have a look later.

The reason I was asking is because of I saw U were saying "FICD is used on cars with EFI only", didn't U?

As the matter of fact, it isn't only tht car mentioned in the thread has managed to get the FICD installed, there are many carburettor inducted cars out there tht are fitted with FICD, one of a good examples is the VPC22 (Nissan) with A15 carburettor engine.

U may go and clarify with any automotive air-cond contractor or workshop if U are unsure bout FICD on carburettor running engines.

I'm driving a fuel carburettored Saga LMST.

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Added on August 2, 2010, 5:45 pmU were telling tht FICD "only works for fuel injection engine" in Ur previous post, I didn't know tht U were specific to the Toyota FICD.

This post has been edited by J1@l_ l_l l\l: Aug 2 2010, 05:45 PM

If you really want to be smart, be smarter la.

First off, catacombs said FICD was used on EFI cars only. Actually he is correct, cos you won't find it installed as a *stock item* on a carbbed car.

Secondly, you asked whether it was confirmed that FICD was used on carbureted cars only.....?????wtf?

Then I said it is normally used on EFI cars, but some ppl managed to *RETROFIT* the thing into a carbie.

So I wanted to know, what's your point in trying to clarify whether or not the FICD can only be used on a carb or EFI? In your case, nobody mentioned the FICD only being used on carbs, only *you* said it. lol

If you bothered to follow the thread from the start, the TOYOTA FICD was the only one being mentioned. You even asked what an FICD was for. So of course I referred to the Toyota implementation.

Are you a kid with low powers of comprehension? Read your own post first before getting on your soapbox next time.



This post has been edited by gregy: Aug 2 2010, 10:01 PM

erm... which post u mean??.. in zth??.. dat one mayb misleading as i was still newbie dat time...

ok, for confirmation... most FICD fitted to fuel injection engines to cure A/C idling problem is that toyota FICD (actually it is made by denso, fitted in toyota AE101/AE111)... how it works in a fuel injection engine is dat it leaks some air into the intake manifold bypassing the throttle body... MAP sensor detects the drop in manifold pressure, squirts more fuel in to bring up the revs... idling rpm can be tuned by determining how much air leaked in by adjusting the valve at the FICD...

how FICD works in carburetor is totally different... carburetor engines dont need to specifically use toyota FICD (which is the one i mentioned above)... it basically jz need a electrical valve (which is also called as FICD), idle load compensator (ILC) and some vacuum hoses... this is how it works... outlet of the FICD is connected to the intake manifold while the inlet is connected to the ILC... once the A/C compressor kicks in, the valve opens, allowing air to be sucked in through the FICD... a low pressure in the vacuum hose will actuate the ILC.... ILC is mounted close to the carburetor, which acts as an actuator to push onto the carburetor throttle lever....



i dont understand a single rant in ur post... if wanna retaliate, give some facts ler...

I don't understand in a good way y would U think tht was a rant and retaliation?

We all known tht FICD is being used on both EFI and carburettor engines regardless of stock or not.

The facts?

Perhaps U wanna re-read post #22 vat it was said, can U see the words "stock item" and "retrofit" tht came out later on post #28?

And for post #19, did I see the word "only works for fuel injection engine"? Were U refering to which specific FICD?

I would not treat tht as a rant and retaliation, but for those who feel offended, I don't know

post 22#... no idea what that guy talking... my english vr bad one...

post 19#... that FICD i was referring to toyota/denso FICD....

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Tht is if,r ight? If U wanna die faster because of Ur retarded mind, go ahead plz. IF ma.

Should I say Ur blind or Ur were born without eyeball in Ur eye. U don't read or U r suffering frm memory lost?

Dunt simply bark with all those fxxkxxg lc stories of in sequence like a mad dog without even know vat have U written here U gxx dxxx mf.

I got no idea vats wrong with Ur capability of understanding simple language.

Dnm, now U came up with the words stock item la, retrofit la, normally la, wtf toyota implementation la, blar blar blar. U know vat? Nah ,,l,,  Go n look at vat U've written b4 U try to act smart monkey here lah , would U, cxbxx kniar.

Can rmb dis ar? "FICD is used on cars with EFI only", don't U know the simple meaning of ONLY? Huh?

Perhaps "So, U'd really confirm tht FICD can be installed only in fuel injected engines?" Did I say stock or retrofit? Can't U read?

I guess Ur not a retarded 1 kot, r U? Huh? Vats Ur gxx dxxm problem?

i dont understand those bolded words...

My car also face the same problem, when the aircond off ant car idle, the dashboard will shake badly until I suspect the dasboard had come off.
But last two weeks I did replace three mounting engine for a new one for a cost RM170.00...now the shake gone and its smooth even with aircond and engines on while idle.

I'll act blur if I were U. But since those words were not directed to U, perhaps juz 4get bout it.

Some1 was trying to act smart and confusing the forumers here without even knowing what has he wrote and didn't even bother to know it.

I know there r many "kids" and colleage boys here have no idea what they r posting and simply "tembak" even they r not sure vat they r posting thus confusing other forummers. These r the fellars who deserved of being "f**ked".

But aren't U suppose to make sure tht Ur f**king the right ppl b4 commencing the "fxxking operation"?

He muz have thought tht I'm a colleage boy or those "kid" who simply "tembak" nonsense without having the sense of logic or those who simply copy n paste the info here frm other source thinking they r very smart.

Shouldn't he look at the mirror 1st of his face 1st b4 posting? Dew....

now we know u big time sifu laa... so can keep ur rants urself... this is not ur personal blog... lolz...

Hey girl, go read back your post 21. If you're still feeling butthurt, maybe we should meet up for a TT.

Do U feel offended?
I'm very noob 1, thus I got no idea did I do anything like this is my personial brog?
C-fu? Did I say tht?

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Added on August 5, 2010, 4:08 pmIt seems like U had no idea I was replying to post #19 which suggested "only works for fuel injection engine" and didn't specific Toyota/Denso FICD.

Butthurt??? I can't find this word in my dictionary....

Meet up? It seems like U prefer discussion to be done in another alternative way do U? YES





This post has been edited by J1@l_ l_l l\l: Aug 5 2010, 04:08 PM

Ok pm me when you're free, we go TT ok? Just to yum cha tok kok sing song lol. Don't worry, it's not my way of getting to know girls lol.

Anyway, just like to make a correction on what I said earlier about the air-cond gas and lube. Although it's true that the oil is circulated along with the gas, over time the oil will get depleted.

I found out the hard way the other day when I took my Civic FD for a gas refill as I found the air-cond not so cold anymore. So this shop just filled up the gas for me and didn't charge me anything. He filled it kau-kau, more than the norm. Right after that the car felt heavier than usual, and everytime the compressor kicked in my idle would drop to 500 then recover, but the drop was severe enough for the car to vibrate like having a chill lol.

Feeling a little fcuked, I went to another air-cond guy to help diagnose the problem. After I told him about the earlier visit and how I wasn't charged at all, he suspected that the first guy simply filled in recycled gas for me. Recycled gas comes from other ppl's cars, so there's no telling its quality or whether there's any oil in it.

So what he did was drain out all the gas, then filled up new gas and a new can of compressor oil. Amazing. The car was cold again, and the idle problem was gone. So it seems originally, my air-cond was running out of gas *and* oil, especially under this current hot spell.

So for those of you who have idling problems, instead of just trying to treat the symptoms like by adding FICD, can perhaps try swapping out the air-cond gas and adding a can of oil first.

I also initially thought of adding FICD to "fix" my idling problem, but I feel better now after treating the cause instead.

Clawhammer, if you're reading this, now you know why I have no time and money for modding my rig anymore lol.

Hi guys,

I'm also having this problem with an old carb wira.
Besides the compressor, what else needs to be checked?
Basically RPM drops when air con kicks in and engine vibrates.
Engine mountings have been changed recently.

jz need to pusing 1 screw only... vr easy one...

haha.sorry for late reply.
I bought from someone unknown, contact him thru hp...
Then it only cost me RM42+RM5 shipping.

I installed it myself after do some research on internet.
simple only...have to cut TWO hose, Aircond compressor LIVE WIRE.
then use T-joint for the hoses...

RM60 below can done liao!

already using it for 1 months plus...still very good condition~