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 -+♦+- LYN OFFICIAL PROTON PERSONA THREAD V8 -+♦+-, Our Pride N' Joy

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post May 26 2010, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ May 26 2010, 08:02 PM)
persona elegance M/H-line owners, what is the Lakatoo GPS model u got for this batch?
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A903 and it sucks... google map is far far more better...


Added on May 26, 2010, 9:05 pmmy elegance has been on the road for 700km... and still felt the brake is soft have anyone change their brake pads?

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post May 27 2010, 08:54 PM

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so far i found the falken is the cheapest if compared with the branded tires.

195 60 15R
Falken ZIEX RM195
Michelin Energy RM245

anyone got any comment on falken tires?

i heard that they are very good on dry road.
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post May 28 2010, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(ralf @ May 27 2010, 10:34 PM)
my driving style..
heavy traffic. RM60 - 240-270km only doh.gif , rm0.22-0.25 cents per km, didn't realized 1.6l fuel consumption is that good ohh
meanwhile the other 2.0l sedan..rm120 - 440km, rm0.27..


Added on May 27, 2010, 10:40 pm

Both ZE912 and XM1 sidewall is soft, comfy ride but sacrifice on cornering.  smile.gif

Falken is cheap but you'll suprise the sidewall worn off faster than Michelin XM1..XM1 has a treadwear of 320, so for Falken 912. But the result is XM1 last longer than ZE912..!
And also in the long run, towards end of its lifespan..XM1 rubber still feel soft and comfy. My vote goes to XM1.


Added on May 27, 2010, 10:43 pm

Get the Briggy GR90..
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thanks for the details on the tire... actually i'm also a michelin supporter... nod.gif
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post May 28 2010, 08:02 AM

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guys! check out the 2010 New Gen 2! M-Line comes with CPS engine! But i still prefer the elegance.


Added on May 28, 2010, 8:05 amso far the actual FC for my elegance is RM0.165 per KM (9.0l/100km) compared with the car's meter showing 10.5l/100km... confuse...

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post May 30 2010, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(aca1 @ May 30 2010, 12:43 AM)
any persona owner using CASTROL MAGNATEC (10W-40) here?
im going 2 do my 1st service soon,
need advice...
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I'm using that engine oil... what you want to know?
The better oil is "Motul" then come "Eneos"...
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post May 30 2010, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(dengwong @ May 30 2010, 12:52 PM)
just visited the Proton show room...the SA only offered me rm300 cash rebate for H-line Elegance if i do not want any freebies from him....sumore have to wait for 2 months...

rm300 discount....is it a good deal ar?? u guys got better deal than this??

besides, he offers me take affin bank ...interest rate 3.5% for 5 years loan...which i think it is lower than other banks  that offer 3.65% for 5 years loan... thumbup.gif
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You can get better offer:
1. Rebate RM500
2. Free Car Lock
3. Free Smart Tag
4. Free Touch n Go RM50
5. Tinted Window Voucher RM450
6. Pen Drive 2G
7. Free Full Tank Petrol
8. Sand Blast Number Plate on all car window
9. Crystal number on number plate for front and back
10. Other SA also can offer the same low interest rate for that bank
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post May 31 2010, 10:11 PM

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For those who want to buy Persona and get more rebate and stuff, you can try to survey those "Proton wakil jualan" rather than those "Proton Edar" shops.

Try your best to bargain things that you wanted... like going to market to bargain... same as here, you can bargain with the SA and try to get as much as you can get. This is a win win solution, you willing to ask and they willing to give. Don't buta buta buy a car without asking anything. Go to as many showroom as possible to ask around the best deal that you can get...
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post Jun 1 2010, 08:23 AM

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Just saw one elegance h line on road.
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post Jun 4 2010, 09:39 PM

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just done my 1k service.
use shell semi oil
free alignment
fix all the defect sound and now smooth all the way.
total charges is RM 127.00
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post Jun 4 2010, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(shamjoker @ Jun 4 2010, 09:56 PM)
which SC you go?
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bukit sedang "wakil service"... no choice, the SA said i must go there for my first three service... i'm not comfortable at first, but when i go there and met up with the team of ppl who service my car, they are very friendly and share info on what to change and what not to change, and which part you change will not void warranty. 99% of the mechanic is Chinese and 80% of them is more than 40 years old. not much newbie mechanic... the best part was the engine oil that they use "shell helix HX 7" 10W-40 Synthetic technology motor oil...


Added on June 4, 2010, 11:43 pmjust want to share it with those who got their new car...

1. check you tire pressure. I checked mine when i got the car, all of the tire pressure is more than 40.
2. don't run more than 1k for your first free service, coz you won't get free alignment (i got reminder from my SA. when i look through the service booklet, they did mention this) so, pls go service your car below 1k.

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post Jun 6 2010, 03:47 PM

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notice the anti roll bar from the picture? i took it when i for my 1K service. my friend advise me to change the anti roll bar to a bigger diameter which will make it stronger and stiffer when driving on corners. any ideas anyone?
had even asked the mechanic whether it will void warranty, he said that thing is not under warranty, so can change...
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post Jun 10 2010, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Jun 10 2010, 06:45 PM)
ok will try caltex...... btw brand of petrol will give good FC???
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not to say that is will give good FC... just that when you use better fuel, the engine got more power and you don't need high rpm to get the car move...
mine is 14l / 100km when i took the car. after warm up the engine, i do some "run in" on the engine. driving a few seconds of speed above 4k rpm... and day by day and 10km/h more each day i "run in" my car engine until the max 130km/h for the first 1000km. now my FC reduce to 10.4l / 100km (which i think i still need to "run in" the engine some more).
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post Jun 26 2010, 04:41 PM

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guys! my friend just got his brand new vios G spec facelife version number plant "WUB 20XX"...
he is so "LC" want to challenge my elegance, from 0 to acceleration and till top speed...
in terms of engine cc and horse power is lower than persona a bit, but on the other hand, the body weight is 200kg lighter than persona and he is using 185 60 15R and persona is using 195 60 15R.
i scare persona will lose due to weight and wide tire drag.

any command on this? just a friendly testing on our car capacity only... but scare that persona will...

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post Jun 26 2010, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Jun 26 2010, 04:48 PM)
Aiya let him lan si lo.....win u what he will get? Our persona is more on comfort than performance
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nope... he is very LC and can't tahan what he says about our car.
he said proton MO HOU YEH... he ask had advise me not to buy Proton and should follow his advise to buy vios...
say proton is like milo tin and no use at all...
i really like this persona elegance model and geram on what he said. well, you might say that it is a childish act. but if elegance win, then it will shut his mouth for good and slap his own face for all the bad commend he said on our car.

if persona really wins, then everyone (including me) will roll our eyes and leave a big hole in between our mouth and say: "wow, proton cars specially the persona really is a car that performs"....
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post Jun 26 2010, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Jun 26 2010, 05:56 PM)
lolz... if he dare say proton persona tin milo.. u ask he got weight(timbang) his car.... our car around 1.2tonne.. vios... less than 1 toonne la... u tell he also.. u thought vios GOA body ah?? u try see vios accident picture... many become cola tin.. kemek... no offence
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had told him that, but he commend that proton is either still have old heavy technology in their cars or don't know how to design cars.
the new cars now a days is design to be as light as possible to maximize the handling and fuel efficiency, he added. he also said that honda city is around 1 ton.

i told him that price is at least 10k more expensive compare to their cars. and he just throw one word: "cheap stuff no good stuff"...

i really geram when he said that...!!! vmad.gif
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post Jun 26 2010, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 26 2010, 07:00 PM)
ur fren got no position to LC ur car

Vios despite it has better QC than Proton, the spec of it is actually very crappy, not to mention it is in subcompact category, similar to Saga from Proton, while Persona is compact category, which should be compared to Altis and NOT Vios..

if he want to LC u kao kao.. he should buy at least a Civic, or Altis, or Peaugeot 308 Turbo


Added on June 26, 2010, 7:01 pm
Vios before tax price is Rm45k nia... he got fooled by the govt lah
Vios is overrated lah, VVTi still considered new technology meh shakehead.gif
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the new vios interior is very very highclass... skin color leather sits... the sound system is quite good too. i like the way toyota done on the interior.
they even give brigestone potenza 185 60 15R stock tires.
persona to compare with altis? hummm... anyway, i think the upcoming new car that will ganti waja should be the right car to compare hmm.gif
but i totally agree with you on the space available in vios... it is so small, only sightly bigger than madza 2 sedan biggrin.gif


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post Jun 26 2010, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Jun 26 2010, 07:02 PM)
Both auto, i think Persona will lose on pickup due to driven by wire and body heavy, but if go top speed and cornering i think persona will win.
Better replace ur stock brake pad bosch to better one first before try
But if u really want to test please make sure no others car around...can test safely...also cause of this geram i scared will cause some injuries or worst.

Drive safe and smart.
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no worries... just to get the answer only... will only test on very straight road... thought of trying if out on KL-Putrajaya Highway... the road there is quite good and less car compared to others. thanks for the concern... nod.gif

actually i don't quite agree with you on the cornering part... did you notice that car is lack of power when rpm is below 2.8k? normally this is the common driving style for most of the road users. and yet our car's power is not there... i know it will auto lower the gear quickly once you step on the peddle just a bit more, but as the rpm when back to 3k and above to get the power, will clearly notice the engine is roaring and one thing will come in mind "petrol"...

it is the same case happen to Mitsubishi Evo Vlll shown in TOP GEAR if i'm not mistaken, the turbo lack on 3k rpm and below is useless, even a normal Renault normal daily small sedan can out run the evo and when the time evo gets its power on high rpm, they ran out of road...

don't get me wrong, i do like my car very much, just felt that proton still have room to improve on the things that i mention.
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post Jun 26 2010, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Jun 26 2010, 07:30 PM)
Let me help u my friend. Tell your friend either "Jom, Genting downhill" or "Jom, Kuala Kelawang road". You'll see who will left behind  flex.gif
I've been driving the new vios for a few times, seriously its cornering ability put the fear in me  laugh.gif
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are you using stock tires, as in 195 60 15R?
i'm not comfortable wack corners with those continental tires and size... if 195 55 15R or 195 50 16R even with falken - i will dare...


Added on June 26, 2010, 7:47 pm
QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jun 26 2010, 07:26 PM)
Dont back down.

I myself pwned a few Vios before.

knot to 60 our Persona might lose because of the torque lag, but top speed and cornering......say bye bye to him.
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i never tried testing the car with vios's accelaration at stand still... but i did tail gate vois on roads... not a hard to kiss his butt if i want to...
is our torque rally lag? the blacks and whites written is more that vios?!? mayb our car body is heavy than their's...

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post Jun 26 2010, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Jun 26 2010, 07:55 PM)
That tire more than enough to beat vios because persona has more low center point of gravity than vios. Another issue is the use of tonsion beam at the rear of vios.

Actually I wouldn't recommend going head to head with your friend, dont care whether cornering or top speed. This is because as below:

WARNING! Possible excessive blood and dead body exposure:

From ondscene.blogspot.com (this guy always goes to crash area to take pictures)

http://ondscene.blogspot.com/2008/09/1-mua...kemalangan.html
http://ondscene.blogspot.com/2010/06/keret...lamat.html#more
http://ondscene.blogspot.com/2010/06/mangs...angus.html#more
http://ondscene.blogspot.com/2010/05/maut-...s-terbalik.html
http://ondscene.blogspot.com/2010/04/maut-...ari-kereta.html
From miros-road-safety.blogspot.com (this guy is the staff of MIROS)

http://miros-road-safety.blogspot.com/2009...oyota-vios.html
http://miros-road-safety.blogspot.com/2008...rsion-beam.html
http://miros-road-safety.blogspot.com/2008...ta-vios-at.html
You see, vios has a high rate getting into accidents if driving carelessly. You might want to read the MIROS guy as he will go into technical details.
U try searching persona in both blogs? Only 1 accident. That also is not the persona's fault. But condolences to the victims family though.
and speaking of which, early this morning, i saw one vios alone accident just before the puchong toll at LDP  doh.gif  and earlier this month, vios accident alone in the Smart Tunnel  doh.gif
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DUDE!!! thanks for the sharing... why?

First, thing i will do is to email all the links to him and let him jia lak a bit for buying that car... he might shut his mouth after looking at those pics...

Secondly, i would like to thank you for letting me see those pics, i have another thought that i won't be in the test just to show whose car is the best, like one of the owner just said, what you get when you win? but if you lose "badly", your life might be in line to hell...


Added on June 26, 2010, 8:27 pm
QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jun 26 2010, 07:59 PM)
Win the race.

then ask him: if Proton MO HOU YEH, then what makes his Toyota? LAN CHAU YEH?

Heh advice ppl to buy Vios......what a joke. I dont even recommend ppl to get the Persona.

Want something better, get a beemer.
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cool down cool down...

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post Jun 26 2010, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(vson @ Jun 26 2010, 08:38 PM)
talking about Altis, i really like the car but it is too expensive to afford.
another of my friend owns a second hand car (the one before the latest version), blow up the engine on the second day he got the car  rclxms.gif

he is a modify car kaki, change the engine and re map the ECU to unleash the power and max high speed...
with 17' wheels and traction control on, he dare to wack the corners at 100km/h (the one's from sprint highway to sri hartamas and turn right down to jalan duta... i was just sitting beside him witnessing the whole turning! tire kena the car "makat"... the traction control really help A LOT!!! i just manage to hit 85km/h on the same road with my stock car, don't want to trash my new car  laugh.gif


Added on June 26, 2010, 8:45 pm
no worries... i'm 100% safety number one guy... i won't take this kind of non profitable risk... like what i mention earlier, what you get if you win? nothing... all you get is your life as risk, over stress your car engine and etc etc...  icon_rolleyes.gif

just geram of what my friend's LC on his new vios and step down on my car... that's all...

but deep inside, i wish to know the answer which car is the better in performance...
see la, will find a very safe place to test the stand still acceleration and top speed...
i also have family, don't worry...  biggrin.gif
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[cool.gif[COLOR=red][SIZE=7]FOR THOSE WHO LIKE TO WACK CORNERS DRIVERS!!! PLS BECARFUL, MOST OF THE ROAD HAVE ENGINE OIL THAT CAME OUT FROM THOSE LORRIES AND SOME OLD CARS OR MIGHT HAVE SAND... YOU WILL LOSE CONTROL ONCE YOU DRIVE OVER THOSE THINGS... ME AND MY FRIEND WILL DO A TEST DRIVE FIRST BEFORE HE GO AND COUNTER THE CORNER AT HIGH SPEED...

I KNOW GUYS (AND SOME GIRLS) LIKE TO DRIVE FAST SOMETIMES (IT IS A COMMON HUMAN BEING THING), BUT YOU ALL MUST CALCULATE THE RISK INVOLVE TOO... ONCE YOU THINK IT IS SAFE, THEN LET YOUR INNER CHILD OUT... HAVE FUN AND DRIVE SAFE...

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