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transhumanist92
post Mar 14 2012, 09:17 PM

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Karma is the only constant. Most people don't want that to be so, so they find religion in hopes that if they pray enough they will be absolved. Those who don't believe in anything don't believe in retribution, reasoning that this life is all there is, boy will they be surprised. yawn.gif

Others believed that meditation and self-enlightenment will be tickets to higher hunting grounds. They too will be rudely awakened when they fall of this stage. Humility, frowned upon here in 3d land, is the key most overlooked by the "enlightened", and most everyone else.
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post Mar 15 2012, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Mar 14 2012, 10:28 PM)
Haha... I heard people say like that long long time ago and I still doubt what it is, I like the idea of it and have seen quite a few people deserve what they get despite all the good deed they do at the temple. I have also seen decent people deserve good luck and peace of mind, then I feel sad if something is controlling our fate like we are puppet.
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Bad is not meant to happen. Bad happens because we lit the fuse somewhere up the line. Happenings/payback is not instantaneous, they sit and wait and plot, sometimes for weeks, years, and then they come out of nowhere like a brick from the sky. And we ask why did this happen to me? I'm a good person, help old ladies cross the street and such things. Go to church every Sunday, or Saturday, or pray toward Mecca five times a day, what more can they expect?

No one expects anything from us. It is we who should expect better from us. And that's no coincidence, or free will conundrum. It's simple basic good natured stuff. Semantics, jargon or reason will not change that.

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transhumanist92
post Apr 13 2012, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Apr 10 2012, 07:07 PM)
he is now enlightened with pure Wisdom of the right Attitude, right Practice, and right Understanding that leads to the liberating Happiness.
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Those who spend their time believing they are enlightened and the other shameless masses not will be their own judge and jury come the pearly gates. Enlightenment, and the belief that one possesses it, is a very egotistical human fantasy. We all desperately want to believe we are better than the next guy, it's only human.

QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Apr 12 2012, 08:10 AM)

But then again, of course I can wrong about this. If anyone can enlighten me that karma isn't just a mathematical system that measures the amount of good and bad deeds on a scale to be judgemental towards an individual's character, please kindly do so.
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Karma is like credit cards, they have to be paid back or else they grow like crazy and make us crazy. Unlike credit cards, we can't ever know the balances. Which is a good thing. Look how crazy credit card bills make people. The best thing to do is stop adding to the balances. A little discipline in life choices goes a long way to eventually paying off balances racked u

QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Apr 10 2012, 07:07 PM)
If Karma is indeed real, then those who utilize Karma to their advantage are already inheriting bad karma due to their selfishness. Hence, a self-defeating system.
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Lol, what so selfish about that. The problem is that too many of us are more concerned about what other's are doing wrong and not taking a better look in the mirror to see what we are doing wrong.We come into this life "alone" we leave this life "alone". That should be a clue that we are here to fix ourselves first and foremost. The rest of the nearly seven billion lost souls on this planet are here to do the same.

QUOTE(3dassets @ Apr 12 2012, 11:03 AM)

My boss did that and he help people, my ex father in law did that too but he died of cancer. Don't know if their next life will make any different since no way to track their soul anyway. biggrin.gif
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Lost souls can't help anyone until they themselves are fixed.

QUOTE(3dassets @ Mar 27 2012, 10:56 PM)

So many people are killed in war, so is pay the price?
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Earth is a war planet, always has been, always will be. People sent to this planet were sent here to endure inhumanity on some level or other for past life infractions. Those that find this planet deplorable need to clean up their acts and never come back here because this planet is never going to change. However, people on this planet are allowed to change and improve themselves.


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Traffic accident fidelity is high in this country and its largely due to attitude than Karma since it happen to all with or without religion.

Karma applies to everyone regardless of faith or lack thereof
transhumanist92
post Apr 13 2012, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(Wild Tiger @ Apr 13 2012, 01:55 PM)
IMO, I think it is not egotistical for these people to believe that they are enlightened. Being enlightened simply means that one has found the truth of something (according to his way); there's no right or wrong about that. And that, doesn't make his status higher than anyone else.
I don't think they are trying to be better than other people, too.


Added on April 13, 2012, 2:07 pm

Enlightenment is not achieved through meditation of any kind; enlightenment is earned and forged in the furnaces of life such as we have on earth. Many who spent their whole lives in meditation hoping to escape reincarnation are back on good old planet earth, and are now working for a living. The Road to enlightenment is filled with blood, sweat, and tears. Those who attain it have callused souls to prove their worth.


QUOTE(Wild Tiger @ Apr 13 2012, 01:55 PM)
I somewhat agree with this.

I've seen people who ranted about how the world is becoming more and more evil, and suggested that God remove intelligence and/or freewill from humans, so that there would be no conflict (wars) and the  world would be a better place to live.
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They could end hunger and poverty and wars and diseases and make this planet a utopia, but they are not going to. Utopia already exists on billions of worlds in this galaxy, earth is not utopia, earth is a proving ground for those who want to get to utopia.

However everyone is capable of improving their own lives considerably while here on earth if they pick up on the clues all around them. When we begin to use our minds and not abuse them we become aware of the bigger picture. There is no need or lack, those are illusions to keep people in their place, wallowing in self-pity and despair. We can break free of those chains or remain in them with the rest of congregation.

Extremely important if you don’t want to come back, important to you mostly, once you are on the other side you empathize with those that are struggling on places like earth but you are not affected by what they have to go through because you will understand it’s necessary like giving a child a shot.


QUOTE(Wild Tiger @ Apr 13 2012, 01:55 PM)
These people should reflect on themselves first before addressing such a statement (and proposing such an absurd idea of asking God to remove intelligence), where the cause of sufferings and pain that they mentioned is questionable
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It's more satisfying to point the finger at others than ourselves, or to the true culprits. If we can't know ourselves, how can we know the real culprits? Oh, yeah, from the media, politicians, Hollywood and our spiritual leaders, they know tongue.gif

 

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