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post May 22 2010, 09:51 AM, updated 16y ago

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To a certain extent, I do. I always feel like whenever I say something bad about someone, almost 75% of the time, that something bad happens to me. This is why I try not to say anything bad about anyone. tongue.gif In a way it's a good habit to carry on but at the same time I don't like being superstitious.

What are your thoughts on this? smile.gif
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post May 22 2010, 09:52 AM

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buddha is pretty efficient when punishing me with karma ....
TSobjectifyme
post May 22 2010, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(akidos @ May 22 2010, 09:52 AM)
buddha is pretty efficient when punishing me with karma ....
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Why do you say that? doh.gif
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post May 22 2010, 09:59 AM

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Do you believe in karma? My answer depends on how you define karma & I've heard of some pretty funny ones. So how do you define karma?
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post May 22 2010, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Beastboy @ May 22 2010, 09:59 AM)
Do you believe in karma? My answer depends on how you define karma & I've heard of some pretty funny ones. So how do you define karma?
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Honestly I'm not too sure if I believe in karma (or at least my definition of karma). I feel like it only applies to me sometimes and not all the time. So when something bad happens, it might just be me pointing my finger at something just because it's there for me to do so.

Anyway, my def. of karma is doing something good and receiving something good in return. The opposite applies for bad karma. Correct me if I'm wrong. smile.gif

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post May 22 2010, 10:02 AM

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karma does have its weakness. For example, blind prejudices. Everytime we see bad things happen to someone , usually strangers (eg read from newspaper), we slap something like "he/she must've done something wrong in his previous life" on them.






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post May 22 2010, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ May 22 2010, 10:02 AM)
karma does have its weakness. For example, blind prejudices. Everytime we see bad things happen to someone , usually strangers (eg read from newspaper), we slap something like "he/she must've done something wrong in his previous life" on them.
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Okay, that doesn't apply to me. Normally I believe everything happens for a reason so if something bad happens to someone, it must've been for a reason, and not because he did something bad in his past life. I don't believe in reincarnation as well.

Generally I don't think I believe very much in karma. It's just that certain situations make me wonder if there really is a karma system that works and, is out to get me. tongue.gif
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post May 22 2010, 10:49 AM

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karma on other people are wishful thinking/irrational rationalization. (he do bad and got away, so he'll be punished somehow in future)

karma on self is irrational pattern-finding on matters of coincidence.

personal story, i once accidentally scratched someone's car, got scared and kept quiet, that night someone else scratched my car and confessed. kinda inspired me and i confessed of my actions the next day. is there a god/karma teaching me something, or me thinking too much about a series of events?
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post May 22 2010, 11:02 AM

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I personally find karma much more palatable than going to heaven or hell based on whether you believe in a certain god or not.
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post May 22 2010, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(objectifyme @ May 22 2010, 11:06 AM)
Generally I don't think I believe very much in karma. It's just that certain situations make me wonder if there really is a karma system that works and, is out to get me. tongue.gif
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Sounds like your own conscience is "out to get you". When we done somebody wrong, we felt scared and keeps on thinking bout retribution, hence maybe self fulfil that prophecy (worry often, causing lapse in mind, then *shit* happens)

In our lives, we have done good and maybe some naughty things (intentionally or not). In the future, equally good things awaits us and maybe some setbacks too (most probably due to our lifestyle choice/or in the genes). The active minds of humans tried to LINK EVERYTHING TOGETHER, albeit loosely. That's why the "art" of [enter body part here] reading/fortune telling are still very much in practice today.

Maybe in the future, we prosper (gotten rich/old and still health) then we think back the (possible ONLY ONE lol) small good deed like "donating to a desperately poor orphan" 50 years ago. What about those who done greater deeds like devoting their whole life to the orphanages and yet died young?



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post May 22 2010, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ May 22 2010, 11:04 AM)
Sounds like your own conscience is "out to get you". When we done somebody wrong, we felt scared and keeps on thinking bout retribution, hence maybe self fulfil that prophecy (worry often, causing lapse in mind, then *shit* happens)
Yeah, that sounds more like it. tongue.gif I think that's where lin00b's quote comes in.

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or me thinking too much about a series of events?


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post May 22 2010, 11:50 AM

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Karma sounds more like a cycle to me

When someone do something bad, eventually he will deal with bad things
This is partly cause by the behaviour of that someone
If u are a fierce people and u treat people badly, eventually people will not like u and tend to kick u out from the community.
While if u are a good person, many people will like u and u will have a good time with everyone.

This is just one simple example

However karma cannot say to be entirely true because it happen that when people do good things always and being a good person, he still receive bad luck like other people did

QUOTE(alanyuppie @ May 22 2010, 10:02 AM)
karma does have its weakness. For example, blind prejudices. Everytime we see bad things happen to someone , usually strangers (eg read from newspaper), we slap something like "he/she must've done something wrong in his previous life" on them.
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More sounds like people judging from the sirface without knowing the true fact, not much to do with karma
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post May 22 2010, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(anti-informatic @ May 22 2010, 11:50 AM)
However karma cannot say to be entirely true because it happen that when people do good things always and being a good person, he still receive bad luck like other people did
That's true. So does this mean that karma doesn't exist?
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post May 22 2010, 05:36 PM

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For me its kinda like 'reverse-karma' if theres even such a thing.

E.g. I'd say aloud 'ahh i'm finally relieved of ankle pain!'

Next thing you know the pain comes back.

Okay i know i make no sense
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post May 22 2010, 06:05 PM


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karma is only a fancy name for probability
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post May 22 2010, 07:29 PM

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more like a fancy name for human pattern-detection
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post May 22 2010, 08:00 PM

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I do believe what goes around comes around, you reap what you sow, Newton's action-reaction law, that energy never really disappears but gets transferred from one form to another as in the 1st law of thermodynamics.

Some call it karma, some call it by other names but they're all just labels to me.


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post May 22 2010, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(objectifyme @ May 22 2010, 03:11 PM)
That's true. So does this mean that karma doesn't exist?
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This term exist in buddhism teaching,
im not one so i dont know further bout that
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post May 22 2010, 10:54 PM

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Hindus also have karma. So do other religions that believe you'll go to hell if you're bad, heaven if you're good. Cause and effect. They call it by different names but the concept is more or less the same. As they say, a rose by any other name...

Btw, strictly speaking, karma in sanskrit means action, act or performance. Every action (karma) has a consequence (vipaka.) Typing on a keyboard is an act (karma). The vipaka is the characters appearing on your screen. No magic involved.


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post May 23 2010, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(objectifyme @ May 22 2010, 03:11 PM)
That's true. So does this mean that karma doesn't exist?
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no, that simply means u have no idea what you're talking about,.


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