Here's a question to those who believe in karma.

If one does a good deed, and let's just say it's in a somewhat, huge proportion, i.e. donated a million to the poor, which side of karma (good / bad) that he will gain if the money which he donated were actually obtained through theft?

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: May 30 2010, 12:17 PM

So does that mean as long as the person outweighs his bad deeds with good ones, "karma" will simply deemed his "bad deeds" as excusable?

Or, a more appropriate question will be, why is that bad deeds are always much more severe than good ones?

True, consequences may trigger separately in accordance to good and bad karma, but isn't it already a bad karma for a person to rest upon the relieve that he'll always be "okay" about it as long as he manages to top up some good deeds in compensate his bad ones?

For example: I stole something. And then I contemplate: "Hey wait, it's that bad karma? Oh wait, no worries. All I gotta do is to get some good karma, and all will be fine." AND SO I CONTINUED STEALING.

Now, I don't know about you, but that thinking is already a "bad karma". Karma may have consequences SEPARATELY for good and bad deeds as you put it, but to actually accept karma as a teaching? I personally think it will put us into that position where we can choose to justify our bad deeds with the good ones, and even if that's possible, I seriously think we're in a big deal of bad karma, which ultimately means that if you believe in karma, only bad things can happen to you, LOL.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: May 30 2010, 02:57 PM

Yeah, but that will put ourselves in the very position I described in my post.

But do you see the FLAW of believing in a thing called KARMA?

That's only because you think Karma only takes effect when an action takes place.

But the reality is, the action is already IN THE MIND, hence, if karma exists, then may people will have a whole lot more bad karma compared to having good ones.

So does that mean as long as the person outweighs his bad deeds with good ones, "karma" will simply deemed his "bad deeds" as excusable?

Or, a more appropriate question will be, why is that bad deeds are always much more severe than good ones?

True, consequences may trigger separately in accordance to good and bad karma, but isn't it already a bad karma for a person to rest upon the relieve that he'll always be "okay" about it as long as he manages to top up some good deeds in compensate his bad ones?

For example: I stole something. And then I contemplate: "Hey wait, it's that bad karma? Oh wait, no worries. All I gotta do is to get some good karma, and all will be fine." AND SO I CONTINUED STEALING.

Now, I don't know about you, but that thinking is already a "bad karma". Karma may have consequences SEPARATELY for good and bad deeds as you put it, but to actually accept karma as a teaching? I personally think it will put us into that position where we can choose to justify our bad deeds with the good ones, and even if that's possible, I seriously think we're in a big deal of bad karma, which ultimately means that if you believe in karma, only bad things can happen to you, LOL.

Yeah, but that will put ourselves in the very position I described in my post.

But do you see the FLAW of believing in a thing called KARMA?

That's only because you think Karma only takes effect when an action takes place.

But the reality is, the action is already IN THE MIND, hence, if karma exists, then may people will have a whole lot more bad karma compared to having good ones.

Exactly!

Two rights does not necessarily cancel a wrong because the assumption that the wrong can be rectified mathematically by doing more good, hence two rights for a wrong, in its essence, is WRONG, because it does not necessarily constitute the remorse for the action, instead it encourages one to be less remorseful of a wrongdoing just because he knew he can cover it with two more rights. You know, like 2 really good excuses for a fault.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Nov 13 2011, 01:58 PM

If Karma is indeed real, then those who utilize Karma to their advantage are already inheriting bad karma due to their selfishness. Hence, a self-defeating system.

Wouldn't those who has the knowledge and understanding of how karma works will use it towards their favour?

Not a curse.

Because like everything else in the universe, people will eventually study and learn about things, and then eventually understand them?

Lol. It's common sense.

There are people out there who indeed understand how Karma works, or at least understand the basic framework of what karma is, mainly around the general quote of: "What goes around, comes around", i.e. a system where the amount good and bad karma are placed on a scale to determine if one has a positive or negative karma. If the individual outweighs his/her good deeds with the bad ones, hence negative karma, and vice versa.

The point I was making about those who would use karma to their advantage is how certain people has decided to "COLLECT" good deeds...in a quest to obtain more positive, good karma than the negative ones. What I fear for them is that although they may be assuming that they are doing something right, you have to agree that subconsciously, it is actually all a "means to an end", so that they may feel good about themselves. You may think this is alright, but there are those who perceived this sort of endeavour by those who are "good-karma-junkies", as simply SELFISH, and if karma is indeed working perfectly as a system, that very same selfish behaviour is indeed, actually BAD KARMA, which ultimately means those who embarked on a journey to "collect" good karma has basically the most negative karma amongst everyone else, and those who learn it, follow its system religiously, are bound to fail in preventing themselves from accumulating negative karma, due to how the system works.

But then again, of course I can wrong about this. If anyone can enlighten me that karma isn't just a mathematical system that measures the amount of good and bad deeds on a scale to be judgemental towards an individual's character, please kindly do so.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Apr 12 2012, 08:11 AM