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Science Will the Terminator-style doomsday ever happen?, A question about AI & robotics

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SUSmylife4nerzhul
post May 20 2010, 02:15 AM

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post May 21 2010, 04:15 PM

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i don't believe A.I. will be even near animal intelligence level, let alone human intelligence, within the next 1000 years.

The human brain is more complicated than you think. Just because you can program a robot to walk and talk like humans doesn't mean we are near to achieving human intelligence. The ultimate goal of A.I. is to develop one that is self-aware, a goal that is almost impossible to achieve considering that we're not even sure if self-awareness even exists.

Even if we were somehow be able to recreate A.I. the same level as human intelligence, it is no different than your TV or washing machine or iPod, in that they are simply machines.

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post May 26 2010, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(nice.rider @ May 25 2010, 12:21 AM)
Mind is non physical and non material, it is thought. Thought is not located in space, and occupies a private universe of it own. E.g. yours mind belongs to you, his mind belongs to his. We can not tap into other people's mind.

Brain is a physical organ located in space. E.g the part of brain that controls the optics will process the signal arrives from the retina. Technically the entire processes of optical behavior could be studied in reductionism science.

This is what we called when physical world meets mental world. To study AI, scientists need to understand if matter acts on mind or mind acts on matter? Also, to study AI, need to understand determinism (algorithm based control) or free will (how could the machine make decision of it owns).

Let me branch out a bit. One question, how do you know your neighbour John has a mind? Is it because you have a mind and he behaves like you, by using deduction, you make a conclusion he has a mind too?

This deduction is actually an act of faith. Why, because you could never ever experience his consciousness, if you could, then that person is no longer him, he is you......So how could you conclude that he has a mind? It appears that everyone makes assumption that they have mind and also have faith to assume that others have mind too.

Now, how can we deduce that a machine (with AI capability) has a mind??

At the end of the day, sciences is just a prime mover for us to explain the universe, no matter how far and how well our sciences and technology advancement,  a lot of the big questions would still need to rely on philosophy and potentially metaphysics.

I think, therefore, I am - Rene Descartes
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how do you come to the conclusion that the 'mind' is separate from your brain, and that it exists in a universe of it's own? Maybe you 'think' that you have a mind because your brain tells you so. Whatever it is that you're thinking right now might only just be the result of chemical reactions in your brain.

How do you know such a thing as free will exists? For all you know, all of our existence is merely determinism in effect.

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