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Is it really possible LRT track near homes can decrease the property value?

Of course not in front of your house ... walking distance will be preferable.

the noise tends to be annoying

depends on how close..

if really2 close, decrease value...

if around 500m - 1km distance, should increase value..

i think so, when the train whisk past, rumble rumble and noise

not to mention the odds of ltr derailing and smash into the house XD

if the location is like in wangsa maju seksyen 2 where the rails are basicly above the houses then i think there will be a slight decrease in value. but if the property is a newly open property and the tracks is in walking distance then it should increase the property value such as the case in japan where houses nearer to public transport stations cost more to rent or buy compared to houses that are further away.

all depends up to owner and buyers,their choices for me its really good la,its not like LRT gonna rn for 24 hours,late night sure can sleep la.

Noise barrier can be built

noise barriers can be built but the feeling of the train going pass every few minutes is not pleasant to say the least.

As matter of fact i see an opposite effect. Fo example, look at the condo built right beside the Terminal putra lrt station. The properties value is extremely high compared to the other condos around the area. I guess its because of the convenience it poses to working people who need not drive their car but instead just take the lrt daily (kelana jaya line).

Should be. Imagine everyday sleeping we hear the LRT zoom past us.

too far decrease value, too close decrease value as well

By the time people are sleeping, LRT is not in operation...

usually increase, if not for own living you can use also for rental.
last time those those in desa setapak/wangsa maju is 60k only..now 200k-300k..
but if own stay choose unit which is in walking distance, dont too close.

Mentari court value low but Ridzuan and Suria Mas high...

Some people sleep early.

What if the level is 50 to 60 dB?

every 15~30min no matter what db it will still be annoying...

not really a good idea unless they do the train stop next to the building... then the price of the buildings will rise tho...

Do you know the difference between [LRT track] and [LRT station]???

it not on the technical side that bother people. we can built sound barriers and even walls on the tracks but it is the feeling of people in trains zooming past houses that they may see sumthing that is not should be seen.

like the old saying goes, out of sight, out of mind. maybe we can camo the tracks or sumthing.

Feng shui master also don't recommend ppl stay too close to LRT.....

will affect in the long run...

The thing is that LRT track will always criss-cross both the residential and commercial area.

Some people ask why LRT track cannot be built only in commercial area?

Well, hard to do that, considering commercial areas are mostly appeared as an "island" rather than continuously around Klang Valley...

For example.........

Residential area.........then few km away, commercial area............then few km away............residential area again.

Then, suppose if the LRT stations will be built only in commercial area..............wouldn't it dampen the purpose of commuting?

If LRT is in this commercial area, but the worker works in this location, he might as well drive?

take sentul timur for example...

flats nearby lrt (melur apt) = RM1200/ Month

further towards lrt with same 3brooms & 2 baths as in melur = rm850


residents in subang =

Last time when I was 3g video calling with my friend, there was an LRT train running on the background. I would say, around 300m man. The sound is still can be heard and it is noisy man. She lives near Wangsa Maju LRT station btw.

p.s: I live near Subang airport, last time, there was a hell lots of airplane flying just above my house. dammit, the sound is soooo loud man

the simple answer is inproper town planning. if new townships were planed with lrt tracks in mind then this shouldnt and issue but most township are planned with closest lrt stations in mind and that is the selling point for most new housing projects. how many times u see the promo goes like "only 15 minutes to the city center" or "public transport amenities is not a problem" when the reality is far uglier then the dream.

Noise level can be reduced if noise barrier installed and things like grinding the rail after some period

Well......in Japan, railway lines are very closed to the homes too.

if too close to the tracks, ppl in the carriage can c thru ur window...u may exposed ur nudity...

In other countries, what they do is to build rail lines in greenfield area, then plan the development based on the track.

grinding the rails is done after the lrt have stop it's service at night. are u sure the sound of the grinding of the rails will not disturb the people who are sleeping?

the last time i check this process produce alot of noise.

but

this is just me ranting kampung2005. dont take to heart ok.

Er....in that sense you are correct.

Grinding rail can only be done at night, when the track is not in operation...

Still, i am not really sure what is the alternative alignment, as the LRT extension going to use road reserves and power line reserves for land, to minimise land acquistion.

i dont know what technology we use in Malaysia, but the EMU at Japan is 10x more quiet than our "screeching cat nails on blackboard" LRT.

You sure? you know how far is 300m? it is 3 football fields; then cannot imagine those who live 50m or 100m near by. . .

i cant be sure of this data but i heard that some trains have rubber slippers around the wheel to reduce noise. but i cant be certain if this is real life or i read it in a fiction novel.lol.

reality and dream world becoming blurred togather.

Track yes

If station no

There is rubber wheel LRT in existence...

For example, VAL system in Taipei.

However, this project is Kelana Jaya line extension, meaning the system has to be the same as the existing one.

oh well. u know what they say.

in order to have progress we must have sacrifices.

for the convenience and wellbeing of tens of thousands, a few hundreds have to make sacrifice..

The problem is its for the subang ppl well-being but they rather stuck in a jem then using public transport.

hahahaha. true true. well if we can korek the SMART tunnel under the heart of kl why not we built a subway system under subang. to complement the existing lrt syste. it will cost more. if the people are not willing to be considerate then they have to pay in some other way such as higher price of tickets.

have u ever went and see houses on desa setapak ?

i suggest u educate ur ownself first before trying to educate people who have much more knowledge than you.

please, i hope we can have an educated discussion.

i hope so, ts question was lrt track near home.

he doesnt say lrt track near home but cannot near to station.
his main point is the value, not the track or station, someone just dont understand it. (station also got track !)


taman bunga raya near tarc have houses that are near to track also, those old houses worth 60k can sell for 300k minimum. rental fetching rm1.2-rm1.5k per month.


driving distance to station approximately 10-15 mins.

anybody know seksyen 2 wangsa maju. the tracks and stations are like 15meter or less to the houses.

those are desa setapak, seksyen 2 are from brj there.

Tunneling is ideal, but like you say, cost in prohibitive.

What's more...tunneling in suburban area is unheard practice, whereby in my opinion, the density of suburban area is not conducive to repay the cost of tunneling.

Even in proposed Kota Damansara-Cheras line, tunneling is only for areas inside KL, because acquiring land in prime areas will be too prohibitive in cost.

i do think it is time to reevaluate subang,pj and kelana jaya area from suburban to urban area base on the density of the people alone. subang has grown tenth folds since the 1990s. even my hometown in sungai buloh is suffering from traffic jams in the morning and evenings due the amount of people living in sg buloh and the surrounding area but is working in kl and pj.

I agree, Subang Jaya is actually as big as KL.

Tunneling has another issue apart from cost of tunneling.

One issue is the provision of ventilation system.

I think the Ampang line, the distance between house and track near the Ampang station is like less than 50 metres already.

Besides the noise, what about other things like dust or the vibration?

confirm increase value...unless the train in within 1-2meters

My distance to the LRT and monorail is less than 50 meter... but value raise!

Go Curve Daiso buy RM5 ear mufflers.

they wont spend such amount of money to do this

But the problem...when this project gonna start?? Until now like no news already..



This post has been edited by Lowyat: May 18 2010, 04:39 PM

Kampung2005 i think the tunneling technology that we currently have is adequate and our soil structure is very good actually for tunneling.

but then again the ugly head of cost comes up.

i've seen in anime (sentau yukikaze) the lrt are highup above the residential area.and the tracks are supported by pillars that have elevators in them. so the whole train system is basicly out of sight and mind and the only thing the people can see are the pillars.

but this is i think more expensive then tunneling.hahahhaa.

but in thinking of solution for mas transport we have to think out of the box.

The LRT extension has pass through pre-qualification stage.

If within walking distance, confirm increase value. If too close until the noise can go in, maybe will decrease abit but still it is near to railway station, so the value will be still higher than those house that are not close to.

the newspaper stated that the track pass thru the tennis court.
Memang tak ngam loh... Hodoh plus too close man.

when the 24 hours LRT services implement sure everyone become zombie

24 hours LRT? Impossible

KL soil structure is bad for tunneling. Not suitable...

government don't build underground LRT, i will build underground home..

If it implement lah. But I wish they do. KL is 24 hours city. Many people work night shift too. If they really want to achieve higher target of percentage of public transport usage and recommend people to take public transport at the same time impose road congestion charges. They have to make it 24 hours in order to achieve the target.

Not needed, even in Japan, they don't do this.

You need a downtime for maintenance as well.

What i suggest is late night bus.

Hello, at night no traffic jam problem.

So in Malaysia one does not need to acquire the rights to the land to perform tunneling activities under it?

Bus is good idea. But many people not prefer to take bus. They prefer direct from train instead. Example? Very clear already.

They are different class la... mentari court look also like flats.

well, by taxi... any ot after working hour, mostly employer will pay. If working shift i dunno.
But in malaysia taxi terrible.

If behind house like in Taman Bahagia, ss2...homes no value..

If petrol increase. Toll increase. Tax increase. Because government really keen to promote public transport and reduce carbon emission. That's what they have to do... or else same like now.

Is it economical to run LRT line at midnight considering the ridership is so low?

Manila started to run 24 hour operation to cater call centre workers, but it was cancelled because the ridership is too low.

In term of profit. It's not good. But in term of infrastructure will be great.

Erm....late night bus is still better.

At least they provide a choice, up to people want to take or not

bus is faster if no traffic jam.

late night bus are better option since we can increase or decrease the amount of busses use depending on the occasions.

and making special night pss for those who frequent them and giving them discounts or any other incentives.

Correct.

I think not only flexible, but also in the first place, late night buses are economical because you don't need many buses at that time.