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post May 19 2010, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ May 19 2010, 11:31 AM)
erm I've never done any detail unbox + review before unsure.gif

Any example?
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post Jun 8 2010, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(V3nz @ Jun 8 2010, 02:00 AM)
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yes yes and yes

TN > PVA/IPS panel
in terms of response time

but colour and view angle
IPS>PVA>TN

TN is usefull in gaming due to less trail/ghosting
especially evident the grey-red combo

I for one use a PVA panel
and from there on swore of it or the better IPS panel
although i still do game

for movie
truly have to be IPS/PVA panel

some might say PVA is even worse than TN at normal angle
cause PVA is suceptable to colour shifts even when direct view of infront
while TN only lose out at extreme angle (blank picture) where as PVA still maintains a "viewable" image

i ususally watch movie, and i dun have proper chair
so i can view from straight infront, or extreme left right, or even from the floor itself
and the PVA still maintain a good enuff image to view

where as TN will have somthing like a negative picture if from left/ right
or a overtly bright/dark, from the top to bottom

still the best is an IPS panel
but it cost a bomb sweat.gif
QUOTE(V3nz @ Jun 8 2010, 02:00 AM)
rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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yes yes and yes

TN > PVA/IPS panel
in terms of response time

but colour and view angle
IPS>PVA>TN

TN is usefull in gaming due to less trail/ghosting
especially evident the grey-red combo

I for one use a PVA panel
and from there on swore of it or the better IPS panel
although i still do game

for movie
truly have to be IPS/PVA panel

some might say PVA is even worse than TN at normal angle
cause PVA is suceptable to colour shifts even when direct view of infront
while TN only lose out at extreme angle (blank picture) where as PVA still maintains a "viewable" image

i ususally watch movie, and i dun have proper chair
so i can view from straight infront, or extreme left right, or even from the floor itself
and the PVA still maintain a good enuff image to view

where as TN will have somthing like a negative picture if from left/ right
or a overtly bright/dark, from the top to bottom

still the best is an IPS panel
but it cost a bomb sweat.gif
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post Jun 8 2010, 02:33 PM

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from my understanding and observations
i realise why they are cheaper

it is a common practice that the flagship model is the biggest size able to be mass produced

ever wonder why dell have like soooooo many size
with a difference between them is ~1 inch
well
it is common practice to produce standard size
(in the past 19", 21", 24", 27" & 30")
and with the process so delicate
there bound to be defects
and if these defect happens at the edge, for sure they will maximise their potential revenue
and to just cut off the defect and sell it as a new size

it is not economically wise to cut the 24" defects to a standard 21"
where the still good pixel is still usable

thats why there is like fillers between them

dont misunderstood
there should be no problems with the panel produced from cutting away defects pixel to make a smaller size panel

it is just when they aim for their flagship model
there ought to be some % or rejected parts
and couple with original stock of the smaller size panel
it became a supply and demand situation
where they have to offload the stock faster instead of holding on to them
and during that process, they maximise the possible revenue

"them" here might not be Dell themselves
just as well might be a subcon to dell
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post Jun 8 2010, 04:52 PM

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my bad then

but for me,

it is wierd that dell would come out with size like 21.5" 22" 23"
I mean, what gives?
Do i really need the .5" that 22" provided, if the price is competative?

even some monitor have such weird rez
that window requires updating the graphic (intel intergrated) driver
to enable the native rez

Might i adjust my theorem perhaps?
(again rolleyes.gif)
maybe it has to do with the yield for that current batch?


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post Jun 8 2010, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Jern Tan @ Jun 8 2010, 05:01 PM)
Agree with BeastX. Not sure calculation below is correct. Feel free to correct it. I took viewable size (inch) divide by diagonal resolution times 25.4 (1 inch = 25.4mm). The only two that comes really close is U2311H & U2410. But if U2311H use panel from U2410, it will product a weird 23.3 inch with same 1920x1080 resolution.

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yes
i did after beastx SLAMMEDD me!!

that i check the pixel pitch from dell website
if it is to be true, there seems to be no two different sized panel that uses the same dot pitch

but still, just thought of something
well, dell is famous for being cheaper with the same performance
is due to they have limited design department
and most of the parts is tendered in bulk

might as well
the same is with LCD panels
they might as well tender a quota of panels at a certain time
instead of requesting of production to their specifications
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post Jun 8 2010, 05:46 PM

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V3nz

you did say you need for movie watching and a lil' gaming,

then the panel type > size,
which in this situation, a mere 1"

i would choose the U23 over ST24

but i would really invest on an LCD tv instead for movie watching tongue.gif
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post Jun 8 2010, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Jern Tan @ Jun 8 2010, 06:35 PM)
Bro, just wish to convey accurate information in the forum. No slam, no offense, peace! icon_rolleyes.gif

Dell being cheaper has to do with it's business model & strategy that we might not have the insight biggrin.gif
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hey,
i'm am okay with this

well, for one i think the internet is taken much too serious for its own good
i am fine that ppl correct me if its is through logical means

thats how info flow
for me there is no, one certain truth
and the truth is always changing as time goes by

some one corrected me today
and i hope to get a chance to SLAMMED tongue.gif correct some one else
if not
well that means i have to learn more before hand before giving out ideas/thoughts


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post Jun 9 2010, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(mois @ Jun 9 2010, 10:57 AM)
So there are not much difference when watching movie between the dell n samsung?
Arb set dell rm1.7k
samsung 1.2k.
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price/performance

you have to look back at yourself
are you the finicky type?
where little imperfections doesn't escape your eyes
or are you the type where even when ppl point out the difference, you still think those ppl are crazy of seeing such details

I am the latter one, but for LCD
i requires no less than a PVA panel and above
an IPS (dell u27) would surely hit my sweet spot
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post Jun 10 2010, 10:54 AM

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mac 30" or dell 30 (which uses the same panel of mac) is good stuff

still the panel is one thing
proper calibration can help out alot since most factory setting is passable at the best

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