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post May 12 2010, 12:02 AM, updated 16y ago

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In less than 18 months there will be no more big blocks of net addresses to give out, estimates suggest.

Predictions name 9 September 2011 as the date on which the last of those tranches is released for net firms and others to use.

Everything connected to the net needs an "IP address" to ensure data reaches the right person or device.

Experts say that the net's entire existing address space will be exhausted about a year after that date.

A newer scheme is being rolled out but many firms and countries are being slow to switch, experts warn.
Small pool

The net is built around version four of the Internet Protocol addressing scheme (IPv4) which has space for about four billion addresses. Its successor - IPv6 - has trillions available.

The continued growth of the net is tied to this pool of addresses.

While four billion was enough in the 1970s when the net was being set up, the growth of the world wide web is rapidly depleting this store.

The growth of the web has meant that only about 7% of these addresses, roughly 300 million, are left to allocate. This entire pool is expected to be depleted in April 2012.

In early May, the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA), which oversees the net address space, handed over two of the big chunks of remaining addresses.

The removal of these 17 million addresses from the global pool meant that the date on which there will be no more big chunks left jumped forward.
Chinese woman using computer, BBC China's growing number of net users has made it a convert to IPv6

"This whole business of forecasting depletion involves a little bit of reading the tea leaves," said Axel Pawlik, managing director of Ripe NCC, which hands out IP addresses in Europe.

"Ten years ago we said it would happen far in the future," said Mr Pawlick. "Now we are all running around with iPhones, we're in that future."

While the cut off date is 18 months away, some fear it will shrink as the pace at which addresses get used speeds up. Throughout the whole of 2009, IANA handed out eight of the big blocks of IPv4 addresses. In the first 100 days of 2010, it has handed out six.
Early planning

Trefor Davies, chief technology officer at business ISP Timico, said rationing of the remaining IPv4 addresses was already under way.

"You cannot just ask for more IP addresses," he said. "You have to prove you need them."

"The registries will not let you have more until your reserves reach a certain threshold," he said.

While IPv4 and IPv6 can live alongside each other, anecdotal evidence suggests it is not a trouble-free union, said Mr Davies.

The process of translating one address into the format of another introduces a significant delay.

Unless more ISPs and others start to adopt IPv6 those delays could start to hit general web browsing, fears Mr Davies.

"It adds quite a lot of latency onto people accessing your network because it has to go through network address translation," he said.

Mr Pawlick from Ripe said it had seen significant growth in requests for IPv6 addresses over the last few months.

"What we are not seeing yet is those IPv6 addresses being used on the internet," he said.

IPv6 tracking services suggest that less than 1% of the net's top one million websites run IPv6. Another statistic suggests that only 6% of the networks that form the net use IPv6. China is one of the biggest users of the new addressing scheme.

Companies are being urged to get working with IPv6 now, to forestall any problems caused by the shortfall.

"The key thing to focus on is the opportunities IPv6 brings your business before IPv4 runs out," said Simon McCalla, director of IT at Nominet, which oversees the .uk domain.



Running out of IP addresses serves a very big problem. Companies should adopt IPv6 naoh! laugh.gif
dayum china! blink.gif

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i dun know IPs will run out...

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post May 12 2010, 12:05 AM

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post May 12 2010, 12:07 AM

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some system use ipv6 already
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post May 12 2010, 12:13 AM

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only 6 % forming the WAN is using IPv6
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post May 12 2010, 12:21 AM

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that means we can get our lives back
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post May 12 2010, 12:29 AM

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post May 12 2010, 12:32 AM

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ipv6?ip man tapao 6 ppl?who?
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QUOTE(peakaboo99 @ May 12 2010, 12:32 AM)
ipv6?ip man tapao 6 ppl?who?
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IP version 6 lol, 94% of the global network IP is still on V4, and is running out of juice. V6 has more juice
In order for internet to survive, at least 3/4 of the global network needs to convert to V6 ( as what i predict)
Conversion of v4 - v6 takes delay and vice versa. If only half of the global network is running v6, then conversion takes place very often, means longer delays and latency when browsing, downloading etc.

In the future, i believe problems will start hitting internet users at its peak when half the global network converts to v6

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post May 12 2010, 12:49 AM

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THE INTERNETS WILL IMPLODE ONCE ALL IPV4 ADDRESSES ARE USED UP. WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE. INFO TECH IS NOT COOL.

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post May 12 2010, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(Parrot @ May 12 2010, 12:49 AM)
THE INTERNETS WILL IMPLODE ONCE ALL IPV4 ADDRESSES ARE USED UP. WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE. INFO TECH IS NOT COOL.
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I've been watching your sig for years. WHEN WILL THAT f***ING CAT EAT THE FISHY?!
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QUOTE(empire23 @ May 11 2010, 11:58 AM)
I've been watching your sig for years. WHEN WILL THAT f***ING CAT EAT THE FISHY?!
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You spent years looking at animatronics?
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post May 12 2010, 01:06 AM

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noting for us to worry about
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post May 12 2010, 01:39 AM

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post May 12 2010, 02:34 AM

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post May 12 2010, 02:40 AM

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so the lack of IPv4 is the real 2012?

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lolol 2012
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post May 12 2010, 03:47 PM

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oh shit by 2012 internet are done!!!we are doomed!!!no more troll/porn/download/pirate/blog/fagbook

HOLY SHIT!!!!
IM GOING TO /WRIST RITE NAO!!!ANYWAN JOINING ME??!!
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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ May 12 2010, 02:40 AM)
waitin TM upgrade to ip6
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hsbb ip 6 lar slowpoke
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so this is the hype jaz few months before it hit 2012. aihh... what a pain in the ass.
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post May 13 2010, 12:34 AM

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maybe its the true form of doomsday biggrin.gif
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Time to revive this thread. To update you all, IPv4 juice is going to dry out in about 45 days.

Please check here: http://ipv6.he.net/statistics/

My question is: Is TMnet IPv6-equipped yet?

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oyeah. 43 days to go. fuking faster than expected before.

looking for updating my wrt54gl for ipv6 capable firmware.

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QUOTE(Oga @ Dec 24 2010, 04:30 PM)
Time to revive this thread. To update you all, IPv4 is going to dry out in about 45 days.

Please check here: http://ipv6.he.net/statistics/

My question is: Is TMnet IPv6-equipped yet?
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dude..its IPv6 ready..even the gomen agencies running v6 d....

dont look down on the ISP...
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QUOTE(emptycube @ Dec 24 2010, 04:36 PM)
dude..its IPv6 ready..even the gomen agencies running v6 d....

dont look down on the ISP...
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Can you provide evidence that TMnet is IPv6-equipped please?

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if tm roll IPv6 to DSL subscribers I still dont need to replace my modem right ?(as long that i use bridge mode to ipv6 capable router)
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end user dont hv to know shiat abt ip ip ipv6... btw u r

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no need ipv6

ipv4 lease rate will increate like hell

now we should treate ipv4 like land price......limited but crucial
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QUOTE(rammed_a55 @ Dec 24 2010, 04:57 PM)
end user dont hv to know shiat abt ip ip ipv6... btw u r

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fuking noob end user who dont even know how to config a router, like you.
others must know.
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Maybe this is what they meant by ~2012 apocalypse.
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QUOTE(biatche @ Dec 24 2010, 05:19 PM)
Maybe this is what they meant by ~2012 apocalypse.
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Among other things tongue.gif

IPcalypse is the phrase brows.gif http://twitter.com/#!/IPv4Countdown/st...093737804570624

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The funny thing is that most of us on Screamyx will NOT be ready for this transition as the lousy ass Riger Modems/D-Links 2640T/Bs are not IPV6 ready unless they're updated....

Customers running without customized routers/modems will be screwed..
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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Dec 24 2010, 05:39 PM)
The funny thing is that most of us on Screamyx will NOT be ready for this transition as the lousy ass Riger Modems/D-Links 2640T/Bs are not IPV6 ready unless they're updated....

Customers running without customized routers/modems will be screwed..
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So are you saying that TMnet is not yet IPv6-ready? If so, can you provide evidence please?

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http://forum-ipv6.lowyat.net brows.gif

Login, sessions, browsing is working at the moment, but posting isn't because I gotta rework the way IP addresses are stored in the db.

Kudos to our hosting provider IPServerOne for providing us our IPv6 allocation.
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Dec 24 2010, 06:04 PM)
http://forum-ipv6.lowyat.net brows.gif

Login, sessions, browsing is working at the moment, but posting isn't because I gotta rework the way IP addresses are stored in the db.
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Oh the above link is IPv6. Excuse my ignorance or temporary lack of attention.

No wonder I can't access it doh.gif

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Kudos to our hosting provider IPServerOne for providing us our IPv6 allocation.


You guys are IPv6-ready? Well done guys!

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Dec 24 2010, 06:04 PM)
http://forum-ipv6.lowyat.net brows.gif

Login, sessions, browsing is working at the moment, but posting isn't because I gotta rework the way IP addresses are stored in the db.

Kudos to our hosting provider IPServerOne for providing us our IPv6 allocation.
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oh wow. lyn goes ipv6 rclxms.gif . i wonder when is for mine.
seems that the time is almost come, when seeing there are more ipv6 host compared to ipv4 on my p2p client.
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QUOTE(Oga @ Dec 24 2010, 09:08 PM)
Oh the above link is IPv6. Excuse my ignorance or temporary lack of attention.

No wonder I can't access it  doh.gif

You guys are IPv6-ready? Well done guys!
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Yeah that's an IPv6-only address. It will be at least a few more weeks before we switch the main forum hostname to IPv4+IPv6. Still checking what the impact is going to be. There are bound to be folks with broken settings who can't access our site after the switchover.. the question is how many.
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Dec 24 2010, 06:16 PM)
Yeah that's an IPv6-only address. It will be at least a few more weeks before we switch the main forum hostname to IPv4+IPv6. Still checking what the impact is going to be. There are bound to be folks with broken settings who can't access our site after the switchover.. the question is how many.
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I wouldn't have understood what you were talking about one day ago, but it just happened that I watched this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2clTKh2vFAE&feature=related a few hours ago. I can understand exactly what you mean. Hopefully the transition side-effects (blackhole?) will affect very few people.

....and good luck!

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Ip ServerOne IIANM leasing their service under EBB (ExtremeBB).

and to those whom doubt TM's infra (core) on IPv6 Ready ...read this

http://nav6.org/content_resource.php

..im working on one government agencies to run their ipv6 production network... tunnel (ipv4+ipv6) has long to be established... thus allowing ipv4 to talk with ipv6
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QUOTE(emptycube @ Dec 25 2010, 01:08 AM)
Ip ServerOne IIANM leasing their service under EBB (ExtremeBB).

and to those whom doubt TM's infra (core) on IPv6 Ready ...read this

http://nav6.org/content_resource.php

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Ok.. so you've provided proof. Excellent rclxms.gif

However, it is mentioned that the following ISP's that are IPv6-equipped (Maxis, TM, DIGI, Jaring, NTT MSC, Celcom, Time Dot Com and MYNIC Berhad) only passed level 1 audit. They have yet to pass level 2 and 3. Nevertheless, you have made your point.

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QUOTE(Oga @ Dec 25 2010, 01:31 AM)
Ok.. so you've provided proof. Excellent  rclxms.gif

However, it is mentioned that the following ISP's that are IPv6-equipped (Maxis, TM, DIGI, Jaring, NTT MSC, Celcom, Time Dot Com and MYNIC Berhad) only passed level 1 audit. They have yet to pass level 2 and 3. Nevertheless, you have made your point.
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its merely an audit... for instance, Lowyat hosted its server at IPServerOne and IPServeOne Leased its service from ExtremeBB.

Lowyat is IPV6 ready meaning IPServerONe is IPV6 ready , thus ExtremeBB is Ipv6 ready. but do you see Extremebb inside the Audit 1 passed ISP list? no right?


if you work in ISP level you should know more. everymonth all ISP in malaysia (about 23 as of now) whom have the connectivity directly to IX will have a meeting. and everymonth Ipv6 is one of the main agenda that we talk about. as of today all IX members have their Core as v6 ready. but most of it didnt run it up to CE level reason because of their client does not have the capabilities to run it.

To run an ipv6 network first u need to have v6 ready network equipment, for instance a 12.4 ED (8.0) IOS of Cisco equipment and earlier unable to run v6. and IP Base IOS unable to run it, just to name few constraint. All this constraints requires one time investment (infra upgrade) to run v6. thus clients, with limited budget wont be able to use the v6. all this constraint us one of the reason why v6 is not widely use in Malaysia. That is only the investment between OSI Layer 1-3. We didnt touch yet between layer 4-7. FYI, Application is the most crucial part, most application was not written to run v6. Im talking bout those production application runs by SME's, MNC's and GLC's. again, to redeveloped the application, this requires huge investment.

Moving forward to v6 is pretty much straight forward with the only difference is the IP becomes larger (way large). but the investment needed to refresh this equipments, applications etc etc is the constraints. Got my point?

Oh yeah, i've run IPv6 on my company network since 2008. its not a big fuss. (not at my home tho...lol)
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QUOTE(emptycube @ Dec 25 2010, 11:10 AM)
its merely an audit... for instance, Lowyat hosted its server at IPServerOne and IPServeOne Leased its service from ExtremeBB.

Lowyat is IPV6 ready meaning IPServerONe is IPV6 ready , thus ExtremeBB is Ipv6 ready. but do you see Extremebb inside the Audit 1 passed ISP list? no right?
if you work in ISP level you should know more. everymonth all ISP in malaysia (about 23 as of now)  whom have the connectivity directly to IX will have a meeting. and everymonth Ipv6 is one of the main agenda that we talk about. as of today all IX members have their Core as v6 ready. but most of it didnt run it up to CE level reason because of their client does not have the capabilities to run it.

To run an ipv6 network first u need to have v6 ready network equipment, for instance a 12.4 ED (8.0) IOS of Cisco equipment and earlier unable to run v6. and IP Base IOS unable to run it, just to name few constraint. All this constraints requires one time investment (infra upgrade) to run v6. thus clients, with limited budget wont be able to use the v6. all this constraint us one of the reason why v6 is not widely use in Malaysia. That is only the investment between OSI Layer 1-3. We didnt touch yet between layer 4-7. FYI, Application is the most crucial part, most application was not written to run v6. Im talking bout those production application runs by SME's, MNC's and GLC's. again, to redeveloped the application, this requires huge investment.

Moving forward to v6 is pretty much straight forward with the only difference is the IP becomes larger (way large). but the investment needed to refresh this equipments, applications etc etc is the constraints. Got my point?

Oh yeah, i've run IPv6 on my company network since 2008. its not a big fuss. (not at my home tho...lol)
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A little too detailed an explanation. But I get your drift. However, I disagree that moving to IPv6 is a straightforward process. Please see this video (4 parts) if you have time to see what I mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2clTKh2vFAE

Cheers!

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if the ipv6 is implented, each node can have /64 prefix right or the /128 prefix?
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ipv6 is a conspiracy of the west to control the media. when it is implemented, all things will have ip, even your TV. ipv4 is enough, seriously

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QUOTE(edwardstevens @ Dec 25 2010, 05:18 PM)
ipv6 is a conspiracy of the west to control the media. when it is implemented, all things will have ip, even your TV. ipv4 is enough, seriously

lol.
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mana ada , so if ipv4 is enough, why the hell people create NAT...if i remember, pioneer of internet today are japan...not the old network from military stuff
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 25 2010, 05:17 PM)
if the ipv6 is implented, each node can have /64 prefix right or the /128 prefix?
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I think each node can have the /128 prefix.
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QUOTE(Oga @ Dec 25 2010, 05:31 PM)
I think each node can have the /128 prefix.
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this is sad... sad.gif mad.gif
i thought nat will die with IPv6 implementation

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for ISP process the connectivity to v6 it is straighforward. but to implement as a whole, production..that is one pain in the @$$ process (back to my lengthy explanation earlier)

no fret on v6, even point to point connection where in v4 we use /30 in v6 (based on latest RFC) a point to point connection must use /64 subnet. why, that is what suggested by the RFC's.

end user might see it as a big fuss, but for some ppl it is achievable by having correct knowledge and as of know, the knowledge on v6 is evolving....

the challenge now is actually ..there is yet a solid standard to implement v6 unlike v4, thats the reason the RFC's keep on changing...

on the other hand, NAT is one of the solutions which they thought can overcome the v4 problem (i forgot which year but its about 8 years back)...but NAT is just ...well..in my word as a network guy..problematic for ISP level...it may be feasible for small scale..but not for anything big....

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QUOTE(emptycube @ Dec 25 2010, 06:12 PM)
for ISP process the connectivity to v6 it is straighforward. but to implement as a whole, production..that is one pain in the @$$ process (back to my lengthy explanation earlier)

no fret on v6, even point to point connection where in v4 we use /30 in v6 (based on latest RFC) a point to point connection must use /64 subnet. why, that is what suggested by the RFC's.

end user might see it as a big fuss, but for some ppl it is achievable by having correct knowledge and as of know, the knowledge on v6 is evolving....

the challenge now is actually ..there is yet a solid standard to implement v6 unlike v4, thats the reason the RFC's keep on changing...

on the other hand, NAT is one of the solutions which they thought can overcome the v4 problem (i forgot which year but its about 8 years back)...but NAT is just ...well..in my word as a network guy..problematic for ISP level...it may be feasible for small scale..but not for anything big....
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but isp have the right not to follow rfc, even celcom broadband shares same ip within plenty customer
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if the ipv6 is implented, each node can have /64 prefix right or the /128 prefix?
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as of now, the RFC suggested the ISP to leased /48 subnet for each node.

let me break it down,

ISP will get /32 allocation ~ /32 subnet will have 2^16 (65536) of /48 subnet

each node will get /48 allocation ~ /48 subnet will have 2^16 (65536) of /64 subnet.

and each /64 subnet is equivalent ipv4 ^2 (which is double the number of current entire v4)

the number is freakingly large....


anyway my company v6 allocation address 2404:b8::/32..its not TM tho..but you can google it up... as of now, maintain the entire core network alone


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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 25 2010, 06:15 PM)
but isp have the right not to follow rfc, even celcom broadband shares same ip within plenty customer
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your are absolutely correct sir, ISP do not need to follow RFC but as for my practice..i do follow RFC... coz im a one man show....pretty much hard to do self study. work smart...use suggested approach which is as written on RFC
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QUOTE(emptycube @ Dec 25 2010, 06:24 PM)
as of now, the RFC suggested the ISP to leased /48 subnet for each node.

let me break it down,

ISP will get /32 allocation ~  /32 subnet will have 2^16 (65536) of /48 subnet

each node will get /48 allocation ~ /48 subnet will have 2^16 (65536) of /64 subnet.

and each /64 subnet is equivalent ipv4 ^2 (which is double the number of current entire v4)

the number is freakingly large....
anyway my company v6 allocation address 2404:b8::/32..its not TM tho..but you can google it up... as of now, maintain the entire core network alone
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actually /64 provides 2^64 addresses, not double up what ipv4 addresses have, what isp should give are network prefix not address liek currently they do to each customer, for example
2001:a:b:c:e:dead::/64

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 25 2010, 06:26 PM)
actually /64 provides 2^64 addresses, not double up what ipv4 addresses have
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haha/...my calculation might be wrong...since the number is superbly large... thanks for correcting it.

that will brings us to 18,446,744,073,709,552,000 IP


Added on December 25, 2010, 6:37 pm2001:a:b:c:e:dead::/64 nice example..

thinking bout getting this for my own using my current company allocation

2404:b8:a11:dead:: nice eh?

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what about apple? they dont use ip address instead of mac address.

And, when i do ipconfig /all i see ipv6 already in vista. If ipconfig in windows 7 i think got ipv7.
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damn, dumb faggot gomen people not doing shit to migrate to IPv6 doh.gif
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Dec 25 2010, 07:00 PM)
damn, dumb faggot gomen people not doing shit to migrate to IPv6 doh.gif
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Dec 25 2010, 06:54 PM)
what about apple? they dont use ip address instead of mac address.

And, when i do ipconfig /all i see ipv6 already in vista.  If ipconfig in windows 7 i think got ipv7.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 25 2010, 07:02 PM)
cost of migrate not cheap..if i remember ipv6 certified product must support ipsec right?  sweat.gif
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i think so

with fews years of ip remaining, they should already pressing panic button for migration to go too full swing
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Dec 25 2010, 07:06 PM)
i think so

with fews years of ip remaining, they should already pressing panic button for migration to go too full swing
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remember dvb-h, only rtm suppork it, wheres media prima?, and gomen extends the dead of analog tv broadcast to 2015 doh.gif
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 25 2010, 07:08 PM)
remember dvb-h, only rtm suppork it, wheres media prima?, and gomen extends the dead of analog tv broadcast to 2015  doh.gif
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blame rais yatim

where's the money gone too? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Dec 25 2010, 07:06 PM)
i think so

with fews years of ip remaining, they should already pressing panic button for migration to go too full swing
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Few weeks, not few years. http://ipv6.he.net/statistics/

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i'm using ipv6 u mad?
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yahuu..no more fesbuk
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err, who said gomen didnt prepare for v6..they are...in fact they liaising with ISP for infra. but on the production side, i have to admit they not doing it yet, working on it i guess.

its not cheap... the cost for transport up to application layer will kill the budget...


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QUOTE(smallvill3 @ Dec 25 2010, 07:27 PM)
yahuu..no more fesbuk
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er what makes you conclude that, existing v4 will still continue to exist...

the difference..there will be no v4 allocation anymore..and the price to lease a v4 will be higher ...


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dont worry la,
they will implement ipv6 later.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Dec 25 2010, 06:54 PM)
what about apple? they dont use ip address instead of mac address.

And, when i do ipconfig /all i see ipv6 already in vista.  If ipconfig in windows 7 i think got ipv7.
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true bro. apple cannot use ipv6. they use mac adress
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I tot mac has nothing to do with ip version?
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Dec 25 2010, 07:47 PM)
I tot mac has nothing to do with ip version?
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haish..go learn OSI layer

layer 1 - physical (media etc)
layer 2 - data link, physical addressing (your MAC address is here)
layer 3 - network layer (IP address goes here)

its totally different layer..capish??

alamak i kene trolled...its kopitiam anyway

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QUOTE(emptycube @ Dec 25 2010, 07:58 PM)
haish..go learn OSI layer

layer 1 - physical (media etc)
layer 2 - data link, physical addressing  (your MAC address is here)
layer 3 - network layer (IP address goes here)

its totally different layer..capish??
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Dec 25 2010, 08:00 PM)
last time i open network book learn osi stuff is when i was form 5, 4 years ago. now forget already. sweat.gif
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wah u learn OSI layer during secondary school?? so good...

me only learned during university days...which is bout 5-6 years back.... but still need to implement till today ..working in this field
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QUOTE(emptycube @ Dec 25 2010, 07:58 PM)
haish..go learn OSI layer

layer 1 - physical (media etc)
layer 2 - data link, physical addressing  (your MAC address is here)
layer 3 - network layer (IP address goes here)

its totally different layer..capish??

alamak i kene trolled...its kopitiam anyway
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Dec 25 2010, 08:00 PM)
last time i open network book learn osi stuff is when i was form 5, 4 years ago. now forget already. sweat.gif
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this is very essential to every network guys, including me

you die if basic network 7 layer also forgot
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i using v6. i didnt know that
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wah u learn OSI layer during secondary school?? so good...

me only learned during university days...which is bout 5-6 years back.... but still need to implement till today ..working in this field
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Dec 25 2010, 08:04 PM)
you die if basic network 7 layer also forgot
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.. and now after i screwed my add math on spm, i made my way on agriculture sector.
I dont give fock about osi later anymore. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Dec 25 2010, 08:04 PM)
lucky Kal-El not here today
this is very essential to every network guys, including me

you die if basic network 7 layer also forgot
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actually research firm use tcp/ip model(based on rfc1122) not osi layer laugh.gif
same as cisco as well, application are combination of session,presentation and application layer
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Oh yeah, i've run IPv6 on my company network since 2008. its not a big fuss. (not at my home tho...lol)
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Don't mind if I ask, who provides you your IPv6 transit/
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Ok let's see whether my vanity IPv6 label shows up...
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QUOTE(Oga @ Dec 24 2010, 04:30 PM)
Time to revive this thread. To update you all, IPv4 juice is going to dry out in about 45 days.

Please check here: http://ipv6.he.net/statistics/
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Hello all!

Not sure why but it seems nowadays the IPv4 allocation has really hit the brakes. A week ago, the countdown was at 45 days left. Now, it's at 49 days left. That's +4 days. I guess this sudden change is due to less IPv4 allocation to RIR's?


Added on January 3, 2011, 4:46 pm48 days left. Apparently, allocation slowed down just before the start of the new year.

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